#simon lotf

um im assuming u mean i dont ship😭🙏💀

if you want to ask me about like dynamics:

simon -> ralph (simon is very attached to ralph in the manuscript it's ridiculous. at the end of the manuscript ralph does think about simon telling him he'll get out of there, however it's not really ralph realising how much he liked simon lol)

piggy -> ralph (this one is self-explanatory i think?after everybody leaves him, piggy is the only person who stays by ralphs side. this dependence on eachother eventually becomes mutual following piggy's death, as ralph realises how much piggy genuinely meant to him)

ooh okay...

1963

i liked how it stayed very close to the book, however i did find the acting to be a bit stiff. i'm not blaming the kids at all, they had no acting experience (i probably would've been the same if I was a random kid in 1963 on an island) but it did kind of have a very bad way of showing a passage of time, it just kept fading to black and then there was a new scene.

1963 jack is my favourite jack out of the three we've had. however i definitely think he was lacking the haughtiness and i always imagined jack to have a shrill voice (tho mr chapins jack was dubbed i believe.)

i do think the 2026 jack did a better job at showing his arrogance. roger was creepy, i liked that. but both of the death scenes weren't very good in my opinion (but when you look at it contextually with the fact that they didn't have a big budget for it the movie is good. and i definitely think it is the closest to the book.)

overall, it was a good movie! it was a bit strange at times but I don't think it was necessarily bad.

1990

a lot of people dislike this movie, however i actually don't think it was that bad in showing the savage side of the children!

i genuinely liked the acting of how they were in the tribe when beating the children, bullying each other etc.

they genuinely felt like adolescent boys, and I feel like a lot of interpretations forget their age and make them very mature and have dialogue as such. (i am aware that in the original book the institutions that they would've been raised in would've had them having more posh dialect, but even then we see them using slang like "wizard" "wacco")

however, if anyone has been around boys at that age when left alone they do literally nothing but play and argue and scrap with each other and i think this movie showed that really really well.

i thought simon's death was done perfectly here (despite the fact they didn't claw him to pieces they just stabbed him)

however the dialogue was killing me at times and the fact that they were american cadets kind of goes against the motif of the "innocent english choir boy cherubs" becoming the savage hunters.

and jack having a tragic backstory of being a delinquent doesn't really make sense for what mr golding was trying to say (and I'm pretty sure he said that himself that he didn't like giving them a backstory because it ruined the point of his novel which is that evil is innate)

the whole concept of there being an adult (captain benson) on the island also diverged it further from the book and i definitely think Roger and simon were toned down a lot more.

however, i personally really liked what they did show of roger and simon here, i think those actors NAILED their characters, and they are exactly how I imagine them.

but to be honest I think it gets overhated, and if you just view it as an alternate interpretation almost like a fanfic of lotf I think it works well.

overall, despite some flaws and diverging a lot from the original novel, it was an entertaining movie and the soundtrack was good!

2026

i feel like this one for some reason is mu most controversial take out of the three 😭

i personally found this...interesting. that's one way to put it. i loved the actor who played piggy he completely nailed his character, I loved the fact that he was Irish which when you look in the 1950s contextually would've made sense that he was ostracised.

i thought the cinematography of it was beautiful, and the uniforms that they wore were historically accurate so there is some kudos there.

however, ralph is the main character of this book, and i really felt like he was really pushed aside for jack and simon's dynamic (which dont get me wrong, i don't have a problem with exploring their dynamic...except the fact that there's NOTHING in the novel or the manuscript that really supports the whole idea of jack and simon being close ever.)

ralph didn't really have as much significance as he did in the novel. i felt that watching it this felt more like lotf but focused on jacks perspective (having half of your episodes exploring a dynamic that didn't quite exist in the book is a bit strange.)

nevertheless i liked the actor who played roger-i thought he did a good job, however that was not roger from the book guys im sorry

rog in the book is a loner, he's weird, nobody fucks with him. but in this version they made him more popular which i don't have a problem with and i do think for this interpretation of roger, the actor did a good job

however it's not very accurate towards the book and i think book purists definitely find this difficult

i also didn't really understand the role of maurice here. in the book he has like two lines but here they seemed to almost cut into pieces of ralph and roger to give to maurice which was really strange?

simon was not as gentle and quiet and spiritual as he is in the book he definitely has a lot more grit to him and seems toughened up. however, i did enjoy the scene where simon turns away from jack crying when he sees jack start to open the pig to give to everybody - this was a good demonstration of simon's character.

the pigs head was okay... i think it probably would've been a little bit scarier in the book but I kind of understand that you can't really show that through visual effects without it looking kind of goofy.

piggy's death was drawn out - I think television has a fallacy of invoking what will cause the most drama and tears lol, and it kind of felt like piggy forgiving ralph was meant to sort of be a catharsis for ralphs moral development as a character.

simon's death was confusing i didn't really understand what was going on, however the bit where he drifted away with the choir music repirsing from when he was united with the choir at the very start was very very well done I liked that a lot.

honestly i could talk about this for ages lol, but to wrap it up i think 2026 ralph was really good; i enjoyed his performance a lot though i think they cut out a lot of of his character and screen time.

while there were some divergences from the book, the 1990s movie does this as well, and i actually think if book purists would view both of those as more fanfiction and alternate interpretations of the characters it would be a bit of an easier pill to swallow for them

but it's not a bad interpretation whatsoever, i enjoyed watching it and it was entertaining!

shit simon edit i made like a week ago it got 9 like on tiktok and here i go i mafe it oncupcat im sprry

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