People always cut out the "uh" in "mister, uh, landlord" but it's very precious to me.
It's like he took a sec to remember the english word for landlord but powered through because he must make fun of Shane for this.
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People always cut out the "uh" in "mister, uh, landlord" but it's very precious to me.
It's like he took a sec to remember the english word for landlord but powered through because he must make fun of Shane for this.

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Idk but something something, the sun being positioned right behind Nathan's head when he found Abaddon, and in Abaddon's POV the sun giving the illusion of a halo... Like idk, halos are associated with angels and saints, and giving that illusion for Nathan who's about to help a demon is an interesting choice which I very much adore. Idk, something something.
I'm honestly so surprised how I haven't seen anyone in the fandom talking about the halo symbolism here. Bc personally this symbolism has been driving me CRAZYYYYYYY. He looks like a saint with the sun/halo. A simple man yet kind enough to save a demon from the darkness. Kindness Abaddon had never experienced before in Hell and very unlikely experienced during his time on earth. That was the moment that changed Abaddon's fate. That simple act of kindness.
Nice take I found on Reddit
I'm seeing Black fans across the diaspora sharing their interpretations so I'd like to share mine for the Black British + Ghanaian POV
Abi looks after the customers & they show her a sign of respect. A bit of Nigerian-Ghanaian solidarity. Growing up, my Nigerian friends always supported me and helped me understand my Ghanaian heritage as someone whose African & Caribbean so I liked this small moment
Next is the obvious inclusion of Anansi. I kinda wish they specified hes Ghanaian in the episode but either way it's nice to have small slice of Ghana in the show
& lastly the ending with the Barber feels like a mini commentary on Black British identity. The Barber despite looking like them has no community or identity, but Omo gives him one. He can now reconnect with his culture that he once lost. He can tell his own story now.
The Tragedy of Charlie Magne | (Pilot) ANALYSIS + Fanon Stuff!
So I hear a lot of people complain that Charlie is a protagonist missing any depth. And when it comes down to the execution of her character in Prime, I⦠donāt disagree with that. ButāI wanna take a closer look at something.
Charlie Magne isnāt shallow. Sheās a tragedy wrapped in optimism, and the pilot quietly told us that in a two-minute song.
Letās take a look at it together! I love analysis, itās just so fun. I think a lot of people just ignore this or something, or maybe this flies over peopleās heads, I donāt knowābut the pilot alludes to some serious potential trauma rooted in Charlieās character.
āIām Always Chasing Rainbowsā
Itās her starting song for a reason.
āAt the end of the rainbow, there's happiness
And to find it how often Iāve triedā
Charlie clearly struggles to feel happy in Hell, much despite her own character. She presents herself as bright and bubbly and confident in the pilot, especially on the outsideāfor instance, during the interview with Katie Killjoy.
But when sheās alone, we often see her breaking down, crying.
She puts effort into not letting anyone see this side of herāshe wipes her tears before entering the hotel. We immediately are struck with a dualityāCharlie is struggling with something that she doesnāt let anyone see. She only lets the outside world see the blinding ray of sunshine she can be, while keeping the thunderous rainstorm inside of her hidden.
I donāt know how recent of an idea of the āHappy Hotelā was to her, but the lyrics sheās singing alludes to a past full of painful, failed passion projects.
āBut my life is a race, just a wild goose chase
And all my dreams have been deniedā
It paints this sort of picture of a young, creative, imaginative Charlie who grew up entertaining all sorts of ideas. Ideasāapparently which never saw the light. It makes me wonder how many other dreams Charlie may have tried to pursue before the Happy Hotel.
Charlie struggles to find happinessāshe thinks sheāll be able to find it in these ādreams,ā which she has been ādeniedā. Sheās aware of her miserable failings, but it doesnāt stop her, because she still thinks she can find it.
Why āBad Communicationā Isnāt Enough
āWhy have I always been a failure
What can the reason be
I wonder if the world's to blame
I wonder if it could be meā
This part is fascinating because as she sings āWhy have I always been a failure,ā Luciferās silhouette crosses over herāthis already illustrates an unspoken answer. Even if heās not physically there, his judgment fills the room.
The most common argument I see people make regarding this scene is āCharlie just misunderstood Lucifer because heās bad at communicating.ā
I donāt fully disagree with this, but I largely dislike this argument because it oversimplifies trauma. According to her own song, Charlie is constantly feeling like a failureālike nothing she does ever amounts to anything. As if nothing she does has any value. She even goes as far to blame herselfāāI wonder if it could be meāāfor never being enoughāfor being the problem all along.
āI donāt know if Iām going to make a difference.ā
āI donāt know what Iām doingā¦ā
āI think dad was right about me.ā
During her voicemail to LilithāCharlie clearly feels like she canāt trust her own good conscience anymore because of how truly insecure she is. She feels lost.
This is heartbreaking. This isnāt just ābad communication.ā This pattern of thinkingāmore often than notāstems from a lifelong pattern of repeated emotional neglect. This is where I think the āLucifer was retconnedā argument comes in.
The thing is, Prime does try to halfway-sort-of introduce this conflict between Charlie and Luciferābut resolves it in a single episodeāoften leaving the audience to forget there was even a conflict in the first place.
It explains why barely anyoneāeven the fandomātakes Charlieās feelings seriously.
Thatās why this aspect of the show is always a topic of heavy criticism. Because of how ārushedā it is. Because of how they just throw Charlieās feelings away like that. Because of how fake it feels. Because realistically, years of emotional trauma to this extentāalluded to in the pilotācannot be resolved within a single song.
āI'm always chasing rainbows
Watching clouds drifting by
My schemes are just like all my dreams
Ending in the skyā
In the pilotāCharlie does not only seem to fail in pursuing her dreams, but she even sees them as nonsensical and silly herself. She seems to struggle to take herself seriouslyābut the way sheās written in Prime makes it so the audience doesnāt take her seriously either. And that is why she isnāt a fan favoriteāneither in the fandom nor out of it. Her writing makes her fail as a protagonist.
This was not the right direction to go with her. The show wasnāt supposed to prove Charlieās insecurities, and say aww itās okay, and then baby her. The show was supposed to show us why Charlie is wrong, and help her grow and learn.
I think her insecurity is likely a reflection of the way she was parented. Parents often set up the foundation of security. The way you were raised determines if youāre secure or insecure.
āSome fellows look and find the sunshine
I always look and find the rain
And some fellows make a winning sometime
And I never even make a gainā
Charlie also seems to compare herself to others, which is a red flag of behavior that suggests she may have been compared to her peers in childhoodānonetheless a key indicator of emotional neglect.
Now I actually donāt think this automatically confirms Lucifer to be emotionally abusive on purpose. Itās why I think thereās some weight to the previous argument.
Emotional neglect is not always about what did happen, itās about what didnāt. Lucifer might've been a loving father, but that doesnāt make him a good one. His āinadequaciesā in certain areas clearly had a devastating impact on Charlie, whether he meant to do that or not.
When it comes down to it, I think of my own dad who was very involved in my lifeābut it was the little things that affected me in the endāthe things that didnāt happen enough. Things like:
- Brushing aside emotions
- Being told she is too much at times
- Not enough praise towards her own characterāpraise geared towards prestige/achievement
- Not showing how she is loved at every stage of her lifeāthe child begins to wonder how she can earn that love backāshe forms an identity around praise (prestige/achievement)
- Constant critique on how she should improve her own achievements
- Lack of support/interest for the childās own individuality or hobbies
You can have a silly, goofy father that loves you, but you can still have all of this. I would know. I donāt think it matters what Luciferās intentions were. The damage is clearly done, and itās hit Charlie very hard.
The Rainbow Metaphor
Actuallyālook at the symbolism here. Charlieās other song, Inside Of Every Demon Is A Rainbow, seems simply silly and whimsical at first. But when you compare it to her song at the beginning, you stumble across a startling metaphor.
āAt the end of the rainbow, thereās happiness.ā
āIām always chasing rainbows.ā
āInside of every demon is a rainbow.ā
Rainbow = Happiness.
Chasing Rainbows = Charlie desperately seeking out happiness.
Inside of every demon is a rainbow = Her happiness lies with the people of hell.
I see Charlie as someone who continually puts others above herself because she believes she is unworthy. I believe Charlie spent her entire childhood believing that she wasnāt enough, that she wasnāt important, that her feelings were irrelevant, and that if she could just work a little harder, she could finally make a difference, and only then could she finally matter. She finally wouldnāt be a failure. Sheād finally be loved.
I see Charlie as someone whoāll stop at nothing to redeem her peopleābecause sheās got it in her head that if she canāt even do this, then she really canāt do anythingāthat sheās failed her people, her father, and herself.
And once she realizes that, sheāll realize Hell is entirely better off without her. Because sheās the odd one out. The oddity. The defect.
Because her parents never told her she was already enough as is.
Hazbin Hotelās Original Premise
This automatically sets up a driving force: Charlie sacrificing her health, overworking herself (I always imagined her as a workaholic), forgoing her needs, putting all of herself into this hotel, because, in a way, the state of the hotel symbolizes her fragile emotional state. If itās successful, sheās happy. If itās failing, sheās lost.
It sets up devastation: if redemption does indeed not work, Charlie will question everythingāher worth, her value, her life. It sets up fear, agony, and tragedy.
Thatās why redemption already works as the perfect antagonist. If the show were to focus more on redemption, it would create a continuous, shadowing overarching conflict (which realistically should have extended for a couple of seasonsāperhaps the whole show). It would have allowed a ton more development on the characters (since theyād be fighting themselves, with redemption as the antagonist) and we would have been able to thoroughly explore their arcsāincluding Charlieās arc.
The pilot didnāt simply start with any whimsical little song. It started with a cry for help.
I firmly believe that people mischaracterize Charlie when they say that her blinding optimism stems from naïveté.
Charlie isnāt stupid. Sheās educated. She doesnāt take shit from other demons! She doesnāt trust Alastor. She firmly sets her boundaries and does not make a deal with himāshe would never do that!
Charlie isnāt someone who just stands off to the side in the face of prejudice, cruelty, or injustice. She wouldnāt let Valentino lick her fucking arm, or just let Angel Dust, her friend, be mistreated! She stands her ground. She isnāt someone who pouts and whines āThatās so meeeaan,ā when confronted regarding her usage of power. That is an awful and painful mischaracterization. Of course she has restraint, but Charlie Magne has always been someone who is unafraid to use her power to fight for what she knows is right.
Charlie Magne isnāt shallow. Sheās a tragedy wrapped in optimism, and the pilot quietly told us that in a two-minute song. Charlie is a strong, beautiful, intelligent young woman and her optimism doesnāt stem from naĆÆvetĆ©āit stems from survival.
And that, to me, is an incredible protagonist worth rewriting.

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I love the family dynamics throughout the show, and I noticed how Cordelia is the aritist and free thinker, creative and fun. And Silas is the disciplined strict business personality that believes in order, organization, and planning. So it's interesting to have Mycroft to take after Silas but have their morals diverge. And Sherlock takes after his mother with his intuition and induction, abduction, deduction work. He thinks outside of the box which works with his mother's mindset. However, Mycroft gets the tenderness from his mother because of how understanding he is of Sherlock's abilities and difficulties with people. And Silas is just a cold bastard, so I can see his cool detached logic going to Beatrice. who also gets her creative and inventive nature from her mother. However, the only person who's trying to keep this ship together while everyone's so chaotic is Mycroft. And it's soo good because it's *typical* older sibling syndrome. That's why I love him so much as a charater. He's so interesting and endearing to me
One funny thing I always notice from Alastor's and Rosie's "Don't you forget" song is that once Rosie commands Alastor to sing along he starts to sing clever workarounds to the humiliating lyrics.
Repeating "You are my pet" as "Yours since we met"
Singing "I am in your net" instead of Rosie's "I am your pet" or "There's no way out" that she sings after "Don't you forget"
Repeating Rosie's words of "I say when to sit and stay" instead of swapping "I" to "You"
This is deliberate, since in the first "Don't you forget" he swaps it to "I won't forget" (Which is also a clever way of avoiding singing "I am your pet")
And in P*ime sing-along Youtube song (But not in Am*zon Pr*me's subtitles, don't know why they're different) it shows that he swaps the pronouns in the last verse "(You'll)I'll have to do this on (your)my own"
Ah, the details of it are so great. Just goes to show how dangerous he is- in chains, scheming, and toeing the line of what he can get away with