Notice how the Grim bots look and fight very very similar to the OG characters.
Notice how The Grim is empty and lifeless
Notice how it seems almost as if it hasn't started forming yet
Remember The Grim being dubbed as a clean slate by Nine
Remember how he chose this place to be his world, his paradise, his home.
Notice that it belongs to him now to create it as he wants.
Remember that Grim has no one and has no counterparts or landmarks of the OG world
Remember how Ghost Hill blew up, destroyed from existence when Nine began to use the unstable prism to recreate The Grim.
Remember how the ghosts of Sonic's and Shadow's friends were also wiped from existence and floated away, the essence gone into the energy sucked away by the prism
Remember how much the Grim bots look and act like the OGs
Since the world of the Grim was claimed by Nine to create as he wants before it fully formed, and he created those bots to be his friends, the Grim Bots are the variants of this Shatterspace.
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That wasn't the point of the post. This is the true point of the post:
There's no Tails amongst the Grim Bots.
By Nine's choice, Tails' variant doesn't exist in his world
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Some of the stuff I discovered while re-watching Sonic Prime.. what are those?
Keep in mind that these odd figures (statues?) only appeared in the Shatterspace of No Place, and only in episodes 7 and 8 of the first season. I don't think they'd make a major appearance, they just stood out to me in that area. Idk. 🤷🏻♀️
EDIT; one of the comments mentioned that these statues originated from Sonic Frontiers! They're a cameo from a puzzle in the game, and this is how they looked like there:
My next question is why did the Chaos Council invade South Island or more specifically Green Hill?
What's their motive?
The reason I say this is one the shatter spaces and mostly New Yolk still seem to base themselves off the original world especially New Yolk and it's timeline see Nine for a prime example.
So why did they invade it?
The reason I ask is because as established in the manual for Sonic 1 and re-established in the Encyclo-speed-ia, South Island is first off an Island that floats around freely in the ocean keep that in mind for later.
But primarily the only reason Eggman went there in the first place was to find the Chaos Emeralds.
For whatever reason which still is not explained and possibly won't be explained, but the Emeralds seemed to be unaffected by the Paradox Prism.
Or at least we don't know what's up with them because Prime refuses to elaborate.
Whether or not they are or aren't in the shatter spaces the Chaos Council never mention seeking them out as their motive.
Furthermore, the original manual establishes the first game is not Sonic's first time fighting each other meaning Eggman had various schemes before he decided to invade South Island in search of the Emeralds.
So why did the Chaos Council end up only taking over South Island or more specifically a small section of South Island, an island that is constantly moving out of all the other places in this series?
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Into, Across and Beyond! Scripting: Expanded Shatterverse
In One More Hero, after OMT!Tails had recovered from the crash-landing in Boscage Maze (Dimension PR-GRO-2023), he and Nine were walking through the expanded jungle.
Nine: You know, Boscage Maze wasn't always like it is today.
OMT!Tails: It got expanded?
Nine: A lot of the Shatterspaces have, Tails. Funnily enough, me and Thorn are really the only two that actually remember what transpired in the past, and yet no-one else does.
OMT!Tails: Oh? How so?
(Logmill Marshland sprites by DanielMania123)
Nine: Well, after Sonic and Shadow were forced to leave to protect our realm, it made the Shatterverse expand beyond what I knew before. It even caused Shatterverse counterparts of them both to come into existence, alongside three sets of people I never knew prior. Over in New Yolk, for instance, Sonic's counterpart is Enforcer Sonic, who was said to have traded his freedom for the safety of the critters in the city before we kicked the Chaos Council out, Shadow's is Prism, but made by me from abandoned blueprints the Council left, and there are three more named Crème Brûlée, Nitroxide and Lodestar Nova.
Nine passed Tails a sheet listing all the major ones between dimensions. (Sonic and Shadow ones (alongside the Temperature Split bunch) are owned by @son1c)
New Yolk City:
- Myself (Tails)
- Renegade Knuckles
- Rebel Rouge
- Rusty Rose
- Denizen 1998 (Big)
- Enforcer Sonic
- Prism (Shadow)
- Crème Brûlée (Cream)
- Nitroxide (???)
- Lodestar Nova (???)
- The Chaos Council (Eggman)
Boscage Maze:
- Thorn Rose
Scavengers
- Prim (Rouge)
- Gnarly (Knuckles)
- Hangry (Big)
- Mangey (Tails)
- Halcyon (Shadow)
Newer Residents
- Windthrow (Sonic)
- Shroomik (Eggman)
- Hoodie and Topian (Cream and Cheese)
- Wildcard Nitro (Is that second word the name of the yellow hedgehog? Odd...)
- Hostas (???)
No Place:
- Knuckles the Dread
Dread's Crew
- Sails (Tails)
- Black Rose
- Batten (Rouge)
- Catfish (Big)
Neutrals and Other Crews
- Gale (Sonic)
- Bermuda (Shadow)
- Sailor Cream and Seadog (Cream and Cheese)
- Skipper Nitro
- Rogue Nova
- Captain Robotskis (Eggman)
Temperature Split:
Freeze Team (Deepfreeze Domain)
- Alabaster (Rouge and a Pink Wisp)
- Hatchet (Tails and two Yellow Wisps)
- Rocketeer (Nitro and an Orange Wisp)
Burn Team (Heatwave Hearth)
- Roundgear (Eggman and a Cyan Wisp)
- Blister (Knuckles and a Black Wisp)
- Ardent Rose (Amy and a Blue Wisp)
- Aquatic (Big and a Green Wisp)
- Constellation (Nova and an Indigo Wisp)
Neutrals
- Syzygy (Sonic)
- Callisto and Jupiter (Shadow and Maria)
- Star and Power (Cream and Cheese, a Heart Wisp)
(What the four Nitro Shatterverse counterparts look like, in the order mentioned in that list:)
OMT!Tails: A whole book about them? Hmm... Let's see...
OMT!Tails had a flick through, finding it pretty interesting.
Nine: Some of their stories are quite interesting and shaped who they are today. Lodestar saved Nitroxide from being turned entirely robot, Shroomik is one of the few humans here in Boscage and has been helping out on terra-firma, Gale's been one of THE strongest versions of Sonic I've seen, and Callisto's essentially a Shadow-Wisp fusion that's a friend to all Wisps.
One of the points in the book caught OMT!Tails's attention.
OMT!Tails: Wait, Star lost her mother?
Nine: Yeah, I'm afraid so... Thankfully, Syzygy took her in with some other younger companions away from Temperature Split's main planet, in hopes of trying to end the Wisp Races for good.
OMT!Tails: Honestly? I can relate to Star's pain.
Nine: You... You can?
OMT!Tails nodded.
OMT!Tails: Before we met back at New Yolk, a monster known as OMT attacked my world, and... left some nasty scars on me... Vanilla, my Cream's mom, never came back from that, so I had since adopted Cream as my little sister. It's been a year since then, and I still haven't been able to move on...
Nine: Hey, Tails. You're a strong guy, I know you are. I mean, come on! You made it out of that crash-landing practically in one piece AND fought off "Agen" or whatever his name was, so that deserves credit!
OMT!Tails: Heh, thanks, Nine.
Nine: But, you know... For both of us, I guess it just isn't the same without the Sonics we knew...
OMT!Tails: Hey, Nine? I know I'm not the best with advice, but I know neither of our Sonics would want us dwelling on the past and what happened before. He always told me that if I want to do something, that I do it right away and when I can.
Nine: Heh, I get what you mean, buddy. Even then, it's a shame the grown-up Sonic couldn't be here to hear this.
OMT!Tails: And he wasn't even the best mentor, either... When do I know if I'm ready?
Nine: You're not meant to by normal means, Tails. The way you know you're ready is to find that courage in yourself. And to do that, all you need is the will to take that first step.
OMT!Tails: "Take that first step"... Honestly, I never heard that advice before, but it can work! Thanks, Nine.
Nine: You're welcome.
Nine noticed a small canister Tails had.
Nine: What's that you got there?
OMT!Tails: Oh, this? They're the remaining particles from OMT.
Nine: Once we get back, I'm gonna put some study into them. I might have something to invent that can give you a helping hand back home.
OMT!Tails: Awesome! Well, here you go.
He passed the canister to Nine.
Nine: Well, we should go get you some practice around here.
OMT!Tails: Ah, yeah! Thorn said she'd be setting up some targets around the jungle for me to work with, right?
Nine: Mhm.
OMT!Tails: Then let's do it to it!
He raced off, ready for his target practice, as Nine followed.
After finding Son1c’s 10aus stuff, a thought entered my brain. What would Mika’s shatterverse counterparts look like? I first started with No Place Mika, aka Kazumi.
Kazumi has meanings of peace and tranquility along with water, oceans, rivers. Rivers are constantly changing. Rivers have a beginning and an end.
Mika’s name means “new moon”. New moon, new life. She is a ghostly Nekomata, I try to keep a reincarnation theme with her name.
Something I will do with the other counterparts is base them of folklore. I’m also trying to incorporate her two tails but not have her actually have two tails.
Mika is a nekomata, a Japanese yokai.
Kazumi is based off of a type of Nymph. Specifically a Naiad. I don’t think is came out like that, but it was hard to find good inspiration. Half of the Naiads depicted in art are butt naked and I’m not doing that.
Her tail creates bubbles that can give air but it’s not something to be relying on.
Soooooo backstory.
Kazumi used to be a part of Dread’s crew that he lost. But instead of abandoning him, she never resurfaced. She then became a Naiad. Following a ship she used to care for.
