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Hello, dear anon!

Let me just tell you that you have forced my hand. This is all entirely your fault and I won’t be responsible for what I’m about to do. 

It’s A Terrible Life - Or How Sam Seduced His Boss In Just Three Scenes

Scene 1: First meeting

Hello, dear anon!

Apologies for the delay in responding to you! Did you see @maspwinj2‘s post on this? Cos what more is there to say! 

Unf, unf, unf. I can tell you I had an emergency cigarette at the Iceland airport when I saw this moment for the first time. I could not believe what I was missing out on and didn’t want to board the plane, hahah. I can’t get over how freaking pleased Jensen looks in his boy’s arms. It’s clear he likes being claimed by Jared. ;)

There’s something so intimate about touching another person on the waist or the lower back. This is something that’s not usually done between friends - it speaks of the people being more intimate than that. But we already knew that, didn’t we? 

Even here, where Jensen is evidently pissed, he won’t move away. Because that’s where he belongs? 

A person who wishes to stay anonymous approached me via PM and wanted me to share their thoughts with my readers. So, without further ado, here’s what they said.

I'm very new in the SPN fandom - just watched the whole thing through in the last couple of months. I completely fell for Wincest (as anyone with eyes might), started lurking around the Wincest blogs of Tumblr, and inevitably ended up in J2 blogs such as yours before long. 

Now, I've seen and done some light RPF shipping before, and that's all I initially thought tinhats are about. People see what they wanna see, overanalyze stuff, you know the drill. All in good fun. But I started to get interested (because "Man, those guys DO touch each other a whole lot") and soon realized that it's a lot more serious than that. 

I never thought twice abt the guys' relationship because I knew they have wives and kids, duh. (Which of course is PR's aim.) But getting into all these posts, I started seeing behind the curtain. Ofc I take everything with a bit of salt, it's not my first day on Internet. And some of it is hard to swallow, like the whole idea that someone would choose to live in a sham marriage and have kids in a situation like that, just to hide their true self. It makes me feel claustrophobic just to think about it. But if I was making a hugely popular show about two brothers and it came out that the actors of those brothers are in a relationship? I can understand why TPTB would do anything to keep it under covers, and why J2 can do nothing but go with it if they wanna keep their jobs. 

Another thing that shook me about many tinhat blogs was the intense dislike of M. Before, I've been led to believe that he's this quirky, sweet, funny dude whom everyone likes, pretty much. And obviously, since I've only actually been in the fandom for about 5 minutes, I'm mostly going on what I've read from various blogs, but I gather that he likes to tease D*st*el to the fans a lot, which Jensen (and I'm guessing Jared) are pretty opposed to. And it hurts my heart that someone I've thought of as a genuinely good guy would keep making his friend uncomfortable like that. And in the light of tinhat theories, it starts to look downright rude, no matter how great a guy he might otherwise be. 

Thus leading me to my point, a post that I saw today that finally fully converted me, too, into a tinhat. http://maspwinj2.tumblr.com/post/169042706426/so-there-have-been-moments-about-jensen-not-liking  As the OP explains, the gifs are from directly after M clung to Jensen on-stage at a con. If you watch the video, people are laughing when Jared takes a swing at Misha, but even tho I'm not an expert at body language, it's obvious he's not joking around. And even though Misha keeps smiling, his body language is extremely alarmed, he knows he fucked up. It's not a funny moment, but it tells more than a million words could about how exactly Jared feels about someone upsetting Jensen, and after seeing that, I'm a 100% believer. So congrats, you've gained a new tinhat. I'll be lurking! 

Thank you, anon! It sounds like you've figured out the basics quite quickly, which leads me to believe you’re a smart one. Welcome to our house! This is definitely not the most comfortable room to claim - the shelves are filled with happy pictures of our lovely couple, but there are just as many unsent, tear-stained letters in the desk drawer. The chairs are hard, but the bed is soft and the linens silky. And then there’s that god-damned roommate that yells drunken insults through the door in the dead of night.

Following the J’s life together isn't easy at all, and to care about them deeply means to suffer on regular basis. It’s worth it to me. Their love is sunshine and double rainbows, the PR schemes are mud and blizzards. 

ANYWAY, sorry about my weird rambles. I’m glad you shared your thoughts with me. Things are indeed not as they might seem. I hope you stick around - there’s a lot of things yet to discover and I bet most of them are lovely. Have a very lovely 2018, anon!

Hello, darling Itany!

(30:03) That’s an interesting choice of words indeed! This statement sounds to me as though at first he’s speaking generally and after mentioning Jared, he narrows down to his personal feelings. “We like M*sha, I love Jared” is all I hear from this. 

Jensen seems to consider his words about M*sha very carefully as of late, and I really can’t blame him. After all, some people are especially talented at twisting his words. I think it’s important to them that we, the fans, see that the special relationship is between J2 and nobody else. I really love it when they demonstrate it like this.

Hello, dear @shipping-is-what-i-do!

I apologize for the delay. I needed to discuss this matter with other people and gather whatever I could to make a (hopefully) coherent argument. First off, let’s look at the lyrics. 

Yes, I understand that every life must end, uh-huh As we sit alone, I know someday we must go, uh-huh Oh I’m a lucky man, to count on both hands the ones I love Some folks just have one, yeah, others, they’ve got none Stay with me… Let’s just breathe… Practiced are my sins, never gonna let me win, uh-huh Under everything, just another human being, uh-huh I don’t wanna hurt, there’s so much in this world to make me bleed Stay with me You’re all I see… Did I say that I need you? Did I say that I want you? Oh, if I didn’t I’m a fool you see No one knows this more than me As I come clean… I wonder everyday, as I look upon your face, uh-huh Everything you gave And nothing you would take, oh no Nothing you would take Everything you gave… Did I say that I need you? Oh, did I say that I want you? Oh, if I didn’t I’m a fool you see No one knows this more than me And I come clean, ah… Nothing you would take Everything you gave Hold me ‘til I die Meet you on the other side…

The lyrics definitely have a strong J2 vibe to them, but so do many other ones, right? What I find telling is the emotional connection Jared has to the song, as I discovered upon discussing with a trusted source about their experience of Jared’s meet and greet at Dallas con back in 2014. I’m sharing their words with their consent. 

“It was at Dallascon a few years ago. Around the time Shep was born. Jared was talking about the intense, crushing responsibility that he feels for the people who depend on him for support.“

“Then he said that for the occasion of his birthday and Father’s Day, Gen (Jen, imo) gave him a watch that was inscribed with Just Breathe on the back. He was very emotional about it, to the point he had to get up and walk away from us a little, and apologized for being close to tears. I thought the whole thing was rather odd, because we’ve never before or since seen him that emotional over GC that I’m aware of.”

As far as I know, watches and music are passions that both of the J’s share (remember this and this?) and I’m inclined to believe it was Jensen that bought that watch with the engraving for Jared. I didn't find any irrefutable evidence suggesting Just Breathe is a J2 song, but it sure seems that way to me. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that G likes the song as well and wanted to listen to it while giving birth to Tom. 

Unless they slip up properly about this, it’ll remain a speculation that can’t be confirmed for sure. I apologize that this is all I have for you this time! I hope it will suffice. Have a wonderful week!

Hello, dear anon!

What really stands out to me in this moment is the song Jared kept playing. Good god, he did it again!

“Wherever you goWhatever you doI will be right here waiting for youWhatever it takesOr how my heart breaksI will be right here waiting for you“ (x)

Remember when J2 serenaded each other at Atlanta con in 2016? 

Oh man. Ever since that, Jared’s been known to play this song when he has the chance. Another example I can think of is Nashville con from this year.

Once the flood gates of romantic serenades are opened, there’s no closing them!

Sorry, I got entirely side-tracked. I think the moment you mentioned is just another proof of J2′s wordless communication. Jared knew the instant when it was best to stop goofing around and let the band play their closing song. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jensen game him a look that made him realise that. ;) 

Ugh! These two. Thank you for the message, sweet anon. I hope you’re having a very lovely weekend!

Hello, dear anon!

I wonder if you’ve confused me with someone else, cos I don’t really do all that many fic recs aside from reblogging some I’ve liked? No matter, I’ll try to help you out! These are all going to be pregnant!Jared/Sam because I swing that way. 

Mpreg!J2:

Ready by @justanothersaltandburn

Summary: Jensen is tired of hiding the truth. Yes, their jobs are important, but after twelve years of hiding - it’s time to come out. And they want to do it in an unforgettable way.

Knocked Up by @immortalwriter

Summary: Jared used to think that Jensen ruined his life. But he didn’t. Jensen was the guy Jared wanted to spend the rest of his life with.

It Takes Two To Play This Game by ObsidianRomance

Prompt: Jared and Jensen first meet when pro wide receiver for the Dallas Cowboys Jensen decides to improve his game with some ballet lessons from famous Polish ballet dancer Jared. Jared thinks Jensen is brutish and Jensen thinks Jared is prissy, but you know what they say- opposites attract. Now, Jared is heavily pregnant with the couple’s first child[ren] and Jensen’s fall season is just getting started. Jared goes into labor right before Halloween (graphic birth totally welcome, it’s up to the author) and they take the baby[ies] home on Halloween day- dressed in appropriately cute baby halloween costume[s], tutu for a little girl or jersey for a little guy.

The Cool, Green Grass by BronteLover

Summary: Jared is an older, mateless omega who feels that he is firmly in the “on the shelf” category. He has fantasised about a much younger, alpha Jensen mating with, but feels that it is completely unlikely that that would ever become a reality. How wrong he was to think that.

Mpreg!Wincest:

If You’re Warm, Then You Can’t Relate To Me by @gothpandawincest

Summary: Post S10E22 The Prisoner. “You know what I think? I think it should be you up there.” The words keep running through Sam’s head, like a song on repeat. The worst part is, he agrees with Dean. It should be him up there.How the hell is he supposed to tell Dean he’s pregnant now?

A one-shot ficlet by @princesssjared

Prompt: Sam & Dean are expecting a baby (i’d like a sam!mpreg but it’s fine if you do with dean) and Dean is scared he won’t be a good dad, Sam comforts me (feel free to add smut or not)

Curse!verse by ghost_writer26

Prompt: Fuck or die with a twist: Sam who had been an alpha for his entire life is cursed (or any other alternative that the author chooses to use) into turning into an Omega permanently. Unfortunately, what the boys don’t realize during researching to reverse the curse was that Sam needed to be claimed/mated by an alpha till they have only a few days to find someone suitable.

I like mpreg just fine, but it’s not a particular thing for me. Maybe I’m not the right person to rec it, but luckily there are others who have before. If I were you, I’d look through @phoenix1966sbottom‘s mpreg tag (bottom!Jared/Sam) , @wellcometothedarkside‘s mpreg tag (both) and @bottomsamandjaredlibrary‘s mpreg tag (bottom!Jared/Sam). You shouldn’t run out of things to read anytime soon. :) Have a lovely day!

Hello, dear anon!

I think you’re mistaken on one regard - I don’t think most J2/S&D/SPN fans dislike her. It’s generally frowned upon to speak ill of her in most fandom communities. However, there are people who dislike her in every sub section of our fandom for various reasons. Lately I’ve seen general fans and hets getting fed up of her advertisements. You already know why I’m not a fan of her, having read my post, and judging by the feedback I received from my peers, many seemed to agree with me. 

I can’t speak on behalf of anyone else, but I think the arrangement between her and J2 has gone sour and it’s damaging to them. This is why I’m concerned and sometimes quite salty about her. I try to keep from pouring my heart out, though, it wouldn’t make me feel any better. 

As for Jensen, I don’t have anything stone solid to lean onto. His low opinion of her is visible to me whenever they occupy the same space. For instance, do you remember when Jensen shaded the J/G marriage on stage? His behaviour sometimes changes when G is present. He gets reckless, possessive and quite salty (see “lacon11″ for instance). My guess is that Jensen doesn’t take it very well when someone else can lay a public claim on his boy. Hell, I would hate to be in that situation myself, I wouldn’t do any better. 

There are rumours that there was a fight between Jensen and G regarding the kids back in 2015. I encourage you to take it for what it is - online gossip. Personally, I’m inclined to believe it. I’ve spent a lot of time figuring out these people, their past and their current situation, and I’d say the shoe fits. That’s just my opinion, though. 

Sorry, I got a little side tracked there. In my opinion, Jensen doesn’t seem fond of G. I can only guess at the reasons, but I would say that the core is that I believe she gives them both grief. If I was him, I would feel the same way about someone who consistently caused me and my beloved some trouble. 

Anyway! I suggest you keep your eyes open and observe the three of them yourself. Thank you very much for your lovely words, I truly appreciate them. Have a wonderful week!