#santaesalt

here's ember's parting message to the staff server. lots to unpack - i split it up for ease of reading. See also:

Their message to the main Sancord [here]

The news post addressing this [here]

CJs announcement in the staff server [here]

Some of CJs dms to Ember [here]

Former staff member Sky's statement [here]

Former staff member Keshi's statement [here]

Staff shittalking players [here]

edit: CJ has allegedly issued chargebacks for all work Ember has done for Santae, in addition to the $15k invoice.

here is proof, including dms and screenshots

and here is a message from crumble in the staff discord shortly after this post went live. update the next day: crumble has resigned.

I got permission from CJ to share this publicly.

In the DMs between Ellis and CJ, CJ mentions Ellis doxed him. I haven't seen anyone talk about this so this is me bringing attention to it. Got these from the anon submission on the salt blog.

One of these screenshots shows Ellis saying, "I have a list of Santae users that are way too easy to find on Facebook."

No wonder why CJ chose to nuke her Santae account.

Edit: If you want to know if you were on the list, please DM me so I can tell you without risking your safety.

I should not have had the names listed publicly as that could have put those on the list in further danger. I am sorry I did that.

Even if you are not on the list, I have been told there are users Ellis was able to find that are not listed in the screenshot due to those people being found after August 26th 2025. Please make sure you are not findable on Facebook or any other personal accounts you do not want others to discover.

CJ Is Racist For some time, I have refrained from sharing this out of respect for my friend, who had initially believed that CJ understood the harm he caused in this situation and was willing to take accountability. However, this preceded a series of actions that made it clear his acknowledgment was not sincere, but rather an early indication of a pattern of harmful behavior that would continue to unfold.

I saved these screenshots at the time because I believed the situation was significant and that, eventually, the truth would need to be shared. While CJ has since been involved in a number of concerning behaviors, I believe it is important to highlight that his conduct has also included racism—something that reinforces existing claims of transphobia and prejudiced views toward minority communities.

This incident began when my friend—whom I will refer to as “X”—engaged in a thoughtful conversation in the Alpha General chat with admin Jitterbug. They were discussing cultural erasure in the context of a community debate about renaming an item (now known as the Ancient Elderwood Chest) to better respect Indigenous cultures. X is half Indigenous, and Jitterbug mentioned having Indigenous roots as well. Their discussion focused on the harm of cultural erasure and shared personal perspectives. X mentioned that white guilt often plays a role in how these topics are handled and expressed frustration about how Indigenous cultural expression is frequently censored online, even by those who are part of the culture.

Not long into the conversation, CJ privately messaged X and asked them not to discuss such sensitive topics on the Santae platform. While this request alone might have been understandable—given the nature of the platform and the desire to avoid serious discourse in casual or entertainment-focused spaces—CJ went further. He expressed offense at the topic and proceeded to argue that all races have experienced oppression, stated that he doesn’t “see color,” and claimed Indigenous heritage himself. This exchange left X feeling deeply uncomfortable, and they chose to leave the Santae community.

X later shared this experience with our friend group, of which I am a part. Many of us were shocked and disturbed by CJ’s comments and decided we no longer felt comfortable participating in a game led by someone who expressed such views. One of our friends, “Z,” chose to quit the game entirely and held a raffle for their items. In their farewell message, Z mentioned they were leaving due to “certain things coming to light.”

Unaware of the connection between X and Z, CJ reached out to Z, assuming their departure was related to the incident. In an attempt to discredit X, CJ shared private screenshots of his conversation with X—insisting that X must have selectively shared parts of the exchange. In truth, X had already shared the full conversation with Z. Z was deeply uncomfortable with CJ’s breach of confidentiality and appalled that he would disclose a private exchange with a user in an effort to control the narrative. (I was unable to recover these screenshots. I will post them if I manage to find them).

Z informed our friend group about CJ’s outreach, and X was understandably upset to learn that their private conversation had been shared without consent. Regardless of whether Z had already seen the messages, CJ could not have known that and should never have disclosed a private conversation with a user to anyone outside the staff team.

X decided to reach out to Jitterbug—with whom they had shared a Discord server — so they could express their concern about this breach of privacy. Jitterbug appeared surprised by CJ’s actions and promised to address the issue. X, still upset, warned that they were considering making the incident public. Jitterbug responded by saying that “canceling a site over an opinion is wrong” and that this situation was “a good learning experience for everyone.”

Following this, CJ deleted all messages sent to both X and Z, blocked them, and banned them from the Discord server.

Months later, X reached out to CJ via the site to apologize for threatening to go public and to explain how his behavior had impacted them. CJ appeared receptive, acknowledged the harm, and validated X’s feelings regarding racism. Believing that CJ had taken their concerns seriously and had grown from the experience, X decided to let the matter rest. They explained what had happened to our group and asked that the screenshots not be shared, as they wanted to give CJ the benefit of the doubt and assumed he had simply been uninformed at the time.

Unfortunately, CJ has since demonstrated a continued pattern of harmful behavior, including further instances of discrimination against marginalized groups. While many new issues have understandably taken precedence, I believe this incident is still important to share. It reflects not just a single lapse in judgment, but a broader and ongoing disregard for the well-being of others in the community.

Just want to start off by saying that this is simply my personal experience and that anything following the cut is simply my own opinion based off of that personal experience. Readers are encouraged to please employ their own critical thinking and taking many grains of salt when reading another person's experience, mine included. Anyway, my feelings and experiences following the cut.

UPDATED SEPTEMBER 30TH 2025

GOOGLE DOC WITH PROOF & GOOGLE DRIVE

I'm tired of CJ not paying his staff/ex-staff the money they are due. Some of them haven't been paid nearly a month.

THIS year alone the LSJ Farms account has spent a total of $8,774.16 based on what is viewable. There's definitely more money that was spent that are not available if reviews weren't left from the account or sellers.

Money Spent Separated by Known Dates:

Total spent in the month of July = $1,430.17

Total spent in the month of June= $965

Total spent in the month of May= $3,369.49

The rest of the money that was spent are not dated unfortunately.

This man has made a total profit of $4,918.09 from July 17th - Aug 2nd after selling a total of 96 products during that time period. He potentially has made more money because his LSJ Farms account has sold a total of 200 products as of August 18th.

CJ claims LSJ Farms belongs to his spouse, but why does it say its founded by CJ first and then Logan? And why was the business name on Amazon linked to Santae Entertainment LLC? You know, the business owned by CJ and CJ alone.

CJ ending his messages with CJ and the LSJ Farms Family on the eBay account when talking with buyers supports the claim he owns LSJ Farms not his husband.

CJ/LSJ Farms has spent a total of $8,774.16 on eggs, not just quails, an incubator, and a bird net. This number is based off the feedbacks he left on his purchases so keep in mind this might not even be the total amount of money he has spent.

Whats up with the AI generated pfp and banner by the way? Guess CJ didn't want to hire an artist to make something for his quail business.

He also has an Amazon account called LSJ Farm Store. Manufactured by LSJ Exotic Quail Farms. This is no longer viewable as of August 18th.

Though, weirdly has "Santae Entertainment LLC" as the Business Name in Seller's Info. He only has one product he's selling on there.

I guess I shouldn't be too surprised since this is how he decided to label his business.

So... I wonder where the cash shop, kickstarter and the BMaC money went towards...

>be me

>try out this new petsite called santae

>say "oh this site has some problems but im sure it'll improve later!"

>leave thinking that these issues will be fixed

>check back in after many months

>9 update posts about closure (and also that they're no longer closing? but then immediately after they're closing again?? and then they're not???) from today and yesterday ALONE

>community is on fire, the only active board is in chaos

>leave again because fuck that noise

if anyone can tell me what is going on i would greatly appreciate it, because good lord what is happening in there???