Iâm so sad that France lost their football match against Spain. But today is Bastille Day, so Iâve made a simple graphic in Canva to cheer myself up a bit. Feel free to use it if you like :) Happy France day! đđ€â€ïž
This quote has stayed with me for many years and motivates me when Iâm feeling down
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do you still like/are interested saint just? your older posts helped me learn so much more about him i canât help but wonder!
I am! I havenât actively posted about him in a while but I have been continuing my research behind the scenes. Hereâs his baptismal certificate as compensation for my lack of posts.
Whereâs that anecdote of Saint-Just getting into a fight with a random woman outside the Committee building (I think?)? I canât find it anywhere đđ
I have to admit that anecdote doesnât ring any kind of bell for me. Anyone else recognizes it? đ€ @saintjustitude ?
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do you have any primary sources of saint-just/robespierre's views on women? there seems to be many claims about csp members being greatly misogynistic, but i feel like people only say that because of olympe de gouges's execution.
Iâve gathered all I could find regarding Robespierre view on and relationship to the opposite sex in this post. There are mainly two times he is recorded to have said something more substantial on women and their role. The first is when he in 1787 wrote a speech welcoming two femmes de lettres as honorary members to the academy of Arras and in the process argued for letting more women into such environments. Part of his reasoning here is the idea women are in fact just as capable of learning as men â âTheir sex does not cause them to lose any of the rights gained by their merit. [---] If we only grant women reason and intelligence, can we deny them the right to cultivate them?â Another part of the argument was simply that âlovableâ and âbeautifulâ women will be able to lighten up the sessions for the men, since âwomen make a conversation where nothing is said, an assembly where nothing is done, more than bearable. Beauty, when it is mute, even when it does not think, still interests; it animates everything around.â Finally, Robespierre also underlined he did not think women suited to study âthe depths of the abstract sciences,â but that they should rather be allowed âthe advantage of picking the flowers of literature, of listening to the pleasant and useful lessons of history, the touching instructions of morality.â This is because ânature has given each sex its own talents. The genius of man has more strength and elevation; that of the woman more delicacy and amenities.â
The second time Robespierre speaks more on women as such is in an undelivered speech written in the fall of 1793. In the passage of interest, he begins with praising the participants in the womenâs march to Versailles in October 1789, as well as the many women who have since visited the revolutionary clubs âeager to hear, from the mouths of their brothers and their husbands, the interesting lessons of patriotism that they had to engrave in the souls of their children.â To this, he unfavorably compares the Society of Revolutionary and Republican Women, which consists of âsome female Demosthenesâ who are âsterile like viceâ and âdeclaim against the founders of the republic, and slander the representatives of the people.â The idea that each sex has its own set of talents and occupations that they should stick to returns here, with Robespierre arguing the Revolutionary Women spread the idea that this fact âis nothing other than an invention of the aristocracy, that men must abandon the tribune and the seats of the senate to women.â He also unfavorably compares them to Cornelia and Porcia, who contented themselves with giving birth to âjewelsâ and then teaching them to defend the homeland, without feeling a need to play any public role.
Other than that, Robespierre does not really speak much about women in the conserved material left behind by him. During the revolution, he is not recorded to have taken part in any debate on womenâs rights (be that property rights, right to divorce, voting rights, etc etc) to express himself either for or against it. The rest of the places he says anything regarding women are presented in the post linked above, so you can go check that out if you want to see more.
Among a truly free people, women are free and adored, and lead lives as sweet as their interesting weakness deserves. In the capital, I have sometimes said to myself: alas! among this enslaved people, there is not a single happy woman, and the art with which they preserve their beauty proves only too well that our infamy has made them abandon nature; for in the modesty of a woman, one recognizes the candor of her husband.
Right before this chapter we have one on infidelity, where Saint-Just dismisses the idea that a woman being unfaithful would somehow be worse than a man being it, and one on bastard children, where he writes that âa girl deceived by weakness is not guilty of breaking the laws of her country. A prejudice dishonors her; she is merely unhappy.â (page 290-291) A bit later, we find a chapter on Salic Law, which Saint-Just is for since âit would be equally foolish for a free people to fall into the hands of foreigners or women; the former would hate the constitution, the latter would be loved more than liberty.â In another chapter he declares himself to be against divorce, writing that âthere is no pretext that can conceal the perjury of spouses who abandon each otherâ (page 288-289) and in the chapter before that, titled âOn Youth and Loveâ he writes the following (page 287):
Women are nowhere more modest and more impetuous than in tyrannical states. How much more touching was the ingenuousness of the Greek virgins! All the ancient virtues have become mere courtesies among us, and we are civilized ingrates. Modern education polishes the morals of girls and wears them down; it embellishes them and makes them deceitful: and since it does not stifle nature, but only corrupts it, it becomes a vice and does nothing but hide itself; hence the sad inclinations that pervert morals and the imprudent marriages that torment the laws.