How Tyrian Callows Can Work as a Personal Enemy for Team RWBY
Tyrian is actually one of the easiest Salem agents to turn into a genuine, burning arch-enemy for every single member of the team. He’s already halfway there in canon.
Ruby This one is already canon and extremely personal. Tyrian was sent specifically to capture or kill her on Salem’s direct orders. They fought one-on-one in Volume 4, he poisoned Qrow (her uncle and father figure) right in front of her, and she’s the one who cut off his scorpion tail. From Ruby’s side: he almost murdered the person who raised her. From Tyrian’s side: she humiliated him, permanently maimed him, and caused him to fail Salem (who then brutalized him as punishment). Tyrian is completely unhinged and obsessive; Ruby is 100% his white whale. He wants her screaming, broken, or dead, in that order.
Weiss Weiss herself never met him in canon, but Winter clearly has, and she was visibly terrified at the mere prospect of fighting Tyrian again. That alone tells us he’s left trauma on the Schnee family. Possibilities that require almost zero retcon:
Tyrian was the one who carried out several high-profile political assassinations in Atlas that got quietly blamed on the Schnee family (or that he deliberately made look like Jacques ordered them).
He stalked or fought Winter off-screen during the Atlas years, leaving her with scars (physical or mental) she never talks about.
During the fall of Atlas he targets the remaining Schnees on purpose, maybe even corners Whitley or Klein just to send Weiss a message. Tyrian has zero morals about killing entire families for fun; the Schnees are just another prestigious bloodline to paint the walls with.
Blake Extremely easy and already heavily implied. Tyrian is a Faunus who became one of the most sadistic, genocidal monsters on Remnant, the exact kind of traitor the White Fang radical wing claimed all Faunus would become if they didn’t follow them. He’s Adam Taurus cranked to eleven: a Faunus who revels in violence and serves a human witch who wants to exterminate humanity (including Faunus). His “plastic soldiers and pawns” line is almost certainly a direct dig at the White Fang. Blake hears a Faunus call her people disposable cannon fodder while laughing about murder, and it’s not hard to see why she’d take that personally. Bonus: Tyrian would find Blake’s idealism hilarious and love breaking her spirit before he kills her.
Yang Also very straightforward. Tyrian nearly murdered Qrow (the closest thing she and Ruby have to a dad), poisoned him in front of her, laughed about it, and has been actively trying to kill or capture her little sister for years. On the flip side, Tyrian sees Yang as the loud, angry obstacle that keeps getting in the way of Ruby. He’d take great pleasure in taunting her about her lost arm, her abandonment issues, or how easy it would be to finish what Adam started. Their fighting styles are also perfect mirrors: raw power vs unhinged agility. Yang would love nothing more than to punch that grin off his face permanently.
Conclusion Tyrian doesn’t need any major retcons to be the single most personal Salem lieutenant to all four members of RWBY at once. He’s already maimed or traumatized their family, mocked their causes, and has a canonical obsession with Ruby that can easily spread to obsessive hatred of anyone protecting her.
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one of the biggest complaints i have about this episode, and every episode with a fight scene since @roosterteeth switched to Maya (or since they sold to fullscreen, idek which it would be), is its lack of dynamic background actions.
i understand that crwby is relatively small and probably, to some extent, being suffocated by fullscreen, but there’s really no excuse for abandoning basic visual storytelling rules.
that entire fight scene felt so lacking because there wasn’t anything going on in the background. every time the focus was on one specific duel, it was like the storyboarders/animators forgot the others existed. this happens outside of fight scenes too but it’s far, far more noticeable when you’re expecting a dynamic background like in an intense fight
mercury and yang showed up for a brief couple of seconds but we didn’t see them fighting in the backdrop of any of the other fights.
we saw qrow and raven go off dueling right at the beginning and then they literally just ?? weren’t there at all after that
weiss is literally standing there watching everyone else before vernal squares up with her. why didn’t she turn and fight immediately? What the hell is she doing just standing around? and when the camera goes from vernal back to weiss, why aren’t qrow and raven in the background? they went off in that direction and now they’re nowhere to be seen. WHY?
same with ren and nora when we finally see them turn to confront hazel. they’re just standing around, and the entire shot has only the three of them in it, literally nobody in the background, not even auditory evidence of the battle supposedly raging around them.
when leo and oscar face off, we don’t see anyone behind leo, even though weiss is later shown to be literally soaring through the atrium on her glyphs (with a half second of ruby fighting emerald in the background that doesn’t even begin to make up for the rest of the eight-minute scene) and we know ruby/yang both use their guns to get altitude. why is there empty background??
when ruby and emerald are fighting, where’s literally anyone else behind ruby? sure, we see jaune and cinder to the side there (who then aren’t there when the camera pans) but what about the FOUR OTHER DUELS taking place on the first floor?? where is everyone?
when ruby turns and sees jaune and screams, we finally see the other people in the room, and what are they doing? standing still. not even halting their fights to look at ruby, they weren’t even moving to begin with.
in that very last scene, weiss gets thrown to the ground--we see it from the side, and then the camera gives us a front shot of her, and where’s vernal? logically she’d have been behind her somewhere but she’s not.
and why is ruby just lying there? like yeah she got hit in the head but she still has aura? she shouldn’t have been knocked down that long. (and plotwise it would have made a lot more sense for her to witness her partner getting grievously wounded??) and if she’s really unconscious FOR WHATEVER NONSENSE REASON then why is emerald just staring at her?? shouldn’t she be, i dunno, tying her up with the chains on her gotdamn weapon? isn’t half the point of the last two volumes that salem wants ruby CAPTURED? so why is emerald just standing there absently? and if she wasnt gonna tie her up she could have at least run off to help mercury, or done ANYTHING to add dynamic to the scene.
i want to know who’s responsible for such sloppy storytelling. there could have been SO MUCH going on in the background (visually and audibly) to add tension and adrenaline to this fight and they completely, utterly failed to take advantage of it.
and it wouldn’t even be that hard, either. you don’t need to mocap background stuff, you can just throw in blurred models and it’s fine because the audience doesn’t really need specifics, we just need to see that there’s something going on. it might take a few extra hours but the benefit to the final product would be completely worth it.
like please don’t get me wrong, i love the world of remnant, i love these characters, and i love the story that is trying to be told here.. but the half-assed animation is really causing the show to suffer.
i’d like to see crwby addressing these issues. maybe they need a more attentive storyboarding supervisor, maybe they need additional editors, maybe they need to bring in more experienced animators. i don’t know where in the production line this issue is starting but it’s very noticeable and it needs fixing if this show wants to be compelling moving forward.
Honestly, there isn’t a ton to say about Vernal because she exists for exactly one purpose: to die so the real Spring Maiden can be revealed. But what little we do get of her is genuinely interesting.
She’s surprisingly affable and even respectful toward Weiss when she captures her; no gloating, no cruelty, just business. She compliments Myrtenaster and clearly wants to keep it, only handing it back because Raven tells her to. That tiny moment shows she has taste, pride in weaponry, and genuine loyalty to Raven (the same loyalty that gets her killed).
Skill-wise, she completely outclasses Volume 5 Weiss in a straight fight, and she does it with style. Yes, Weiss was having the worst brain day of her life (summoning a tiny sword and then running straight at a gun), but Vernal still wins clean. She’s fast, precise, reads her opponent perfectly, and uses the environment like a pro. If Weiss hadn’t swallowed the idiot pills that afternoon, it still would have been a tough fight.
At the end of the day Vernal is only a “villain” because she rides with Raven’s band of murderers and raiders. She’s spent years helping burn villages and rob caravans, but everything we actually see from her on-screen is… weirdly honorable? She follows orders, protects her tribe, and willingly acts as Raven’s body double knowing full well it paints a massive target on her back.
Vernal didn’t deserve the Maiden powers… but she sure deserved a better boss.
How Hazel Rainart Can Work as a Deeply Personal Enemy for Team RWBY
Hazel never directly fought RWBY for most of the series — his hatred was laser-focused on Ozpin. But with just a few logical extensions and revelations, he can easily become an enemy who hits every single girl where it hurts the most: emotionally, ideologically, and personally.
Ruby Ruby is the only actual child soldier in the room, so Hazel’s accusation that Ozpin “uses children and throws them away” lands hardest on her. She can’t fully deny it — she’s living proof. At the same time, she would sympathize with Gretchen’s death (it mirrors Summer’s disappearance), but she’d push back hard: “She died fighting Grimm, the same thing we all signed up to do. Ozpin didn’t force her — Salem did, by making the Grimm in the first place.” If Hazel ever learned that Summer Rose went on a solo mission for Ozpin and never came back… he would 100% blame Ozpin, and by extension blame Ruby for still following “the man who killed both our mothers.” That turns sympathy into something twisted and personal.
Weiss Hazel almost killed her in Haven. One punch would have ended the Schnee heiress forever, and Whitley would have grown up never seeing his sister again. That near-death experience could be the final wake-up call that makes Weiss realize how fragile her family ties actually are. Hazel becomes the living embodiment of “anyone can die at any moment because of this war Ozpin started.” Bonus points if Hazel later mocks her with “Your father sold dust that got my sister killed, little Schnee. I should thank him — he gave me the perfect reason to erase his legacy, starting with you.”
Blake This one is the most fascinating because Blake is the only person who could actually understand Hazel’s rage. She watched Adam spiral into vengeance exactly the same way: a good person, consumed by grief and justified anger, until he became the very monster he hated. Hazel is Adam if he’d been bigger, stronger, and given magic steroids by Salem. Blake would feel sick seeing the parallel. She might even try to talk him down at first… only for Hazel to throw Sienna Khan’s death and the White Fang’s destruction in her face: “You ran. I stayed and avenged them. Don’t lecture me about peace, coward.” That makes him the dark mirror of what Blake could have become.
Yang Perfect foil duo. Both are the big, protective older siblings who fight with raw physical power and Dust infused in their own bodies. Both lost (or believe they lost) a family member because of Ozpin’s war. Yang would genuinely feel for the guy who lost his little sister… right up until he tries to murder Oscar (a literal child) in front of her. Then it flips: “You think you’re the only one who lost someone? I watched my mom disappear, my dad fall apart, and my sister almost die because of this war. But I didn’t start helping the woman who wants to end the world!” Hazel becomes the embodiment of rage allowed to fester too long — the warning of what Yang could still turn into if she ever lets vengeance win again.
Conclusion Hazel doesn’t need to hate RWBY from the start. He just needs to see them as Ozpin’s latest batch of child soldiers willingly marching to their deaths. To him, killing them is mercy — putting down the next generation of victims before they end up like Gretchen. That ideology clashes directly with everything the girls believe, and forces each of them to confront the ugliest truths about the world they’re fighting for.
(Also seeing Yang don this to Hazel would be funny)
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Just in case anyone thought I was lying about that pedophile apologist thing… Apparently I was and he’s just a straight up pedo, soooo
... Ah yes, me being a pedo...when I say that having sex with someone when it is LEGAL to have sex with them and having nuance about the idea is pedophilic, which is why I advocate for the harshest penalties for pedophiles as possible and did not feel anything outside of sadistic glee when I heard that Pedophiles get targeted in prison: one of the few times I am happy aboutr the prison system in America. In all honesty, my advocating for no death penalties is rather hard for me to keep up with Pedophiles.
But go right ahead and keep accusing me even as my words contradict what you say: That’ll surely convince people.
this is disgusting. im epescially disgusted by “if the person is of the age of consent, they are not a child anymoreâ€. in some places, the age of consent is as low as 12 or 13. is a 12 year old not a child?
on top of that, even tho the “average†age of consent is 16 (im assuming that skews low), that is for cases between two people around the same age. there are still laws against a 16 year old and someone 19+.
kob’s instance of the difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia, never mind that ‘pedophilia’ is used as a catchall and the fact that a “ephebophile†is just as predatory and disgusting as a pedophile, is creepy at best and dangerous at worst.
unfortunately, this is just another thing in the long list of disgusting things kob defends
In our eyes, they are. In their countries eyes; no. If the people of that country find it to be a problem: Then we can step in. But ONLY then, otherwise we just look like self frighteous assholes. Oh wait, I’m talking about RWDE...
And then there are cases that cover that age gap, known as Romeo and Juilet Laws (http://sex-crimes.laws.com/statutory-rape/romeo-and-Juliet). The only problem I have with these laws is that they discriminate against homosexual relationships. I honestly cannot tell the difference between a 19 year old male and a 16 year old female (or vice verse with a 19 year old female and a 16 year old male) and one in which both sides have the same gentials besides something as stupid as the contents of their pants.
Yes, dangerous...that si why we have laws that allow it and that is why we have an age of consent that is 16 in our country and in most of the world. Because you, an idiot who can’t understand the difference between a homophobe and someone who disagrees with you, would know more than the greatest minds in our country spanning for over 200 years.
But let’s talk about that line there (Never mind that pedophila is used as a catchall-): Wanna know what else is used as a catchall? Nazis for conservates. Yeah, people have used the term “Nazi” to mean “conservative” or “Right winged”. And you wanna know happened when people did that? Actual Neo-Nazies started coming out of the wood work and speaking up. This also falls under the same term as “homophobe” being used to mean “person who doesn’t care about sexuality” which gave rise to actual homophobes. Yeah, whenever people start using a term for the extreme as a “catchall” for everything in that vincity: it does NOTHING but normalize the term. The term becomes commonplace, it loses it’s impact and the people who DO fall under the term don’t feel as ostrasized and outcast as they should be. Like how Pedophiles nowadays are so confident when you use “Pedophile” like a Touhou Boss uses bullets, they are trying to get labeled the same as LGBT people. Yeah this is an actual thing (http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/is-the-lgbt-about-to-add-pedophilia-as-another-protected-sexual-orientation/)
I’ve already seen this happen for Nazies and Homophobes: I DON’T want this to happen to pedophiles. They need to demonized as much as possible and we CANNOT let tehm think their way of acting is in anyway normal! When I use the term “Ehebophile”, what I mean is “Someone should check that out and make sure something isn’t going on.” When I use “Pedophile”, I mean “”GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME< YOU SICK SON OF A BITCH BEFORE I INDULGE MY SADISM ON YOU!” I use the terms to make it clear actual Pedophiles are NOT WELCOME: That they are ENTIRELY DIFFERENT than a dubious relationship.
WHile you just make them feel at home for calling a 19 year old guy going out with a 16 year old on their 2 year anniversary while they fuck some poor helpless 10 year old Whole being a whole two decades older than them. Yeah, know that’s not what you mean but that’s you’re doing.
So maybe try to understand what I am saying before labeling me a pedophile just because you can’t handle criticism. Especially since, with the RWDE tag’s tendency to project, YOU look like the pedos, desperate to call attention away from your actions, and not me, the guy whose trying to make sure pedophiles feel as threatened as possible. I don’t believe that but that’s what you look like, along with how you try to call pedophile victims pedophiles. Right @mageknight14 ?
Maybe next time, you shouldn’t reblog from someone you blocked.
“There is no q*eerbaiting or anything homophobic.â€Â
????? “There’s no homophobia!!! I’m heterosexual, therefore I know when something is or isnt homophobic and also I get a say in what qualifies as homophobia!â€
Nope, that’s my friends. thanks for proving that you don’t consider a person homosexual if they disagree with you. You call queerbaiting when the show is not over yet and you call homophobia when a vats majority of homosexuals don’t acre and equal number of people who call it outright oppose you. All stuff I’ve seen and noted from my friends.
“That’s just an excuse for people to be thin skinnedâ€
Ah yes, homophobia doesn’t actually exist, it’s all in the mind of the Gays™ so they have an excuse to complain, I guess.
Yes, yes, we get it. you’re homophobe who projects their homophobia onto anyone you don’t like as evidence to that I never refer to gay people directly but I do refer to the RWDE tag directly, showing that you only count people as “gay” if they share the same mindset as you.
See, whenever I see the word “Queerbaiting”, people are always using it to mean “gay ship tease.” And that’s not what queerbaiting is since the definition is “hinting at a queer character where there is none.” And even if that is the definition of queerbaiting, so what? Heterosexual ships get teased all the time and never come true. This just reinforces my point is that you are too thin skinned to not get your ship when literally millions handle it. And then we have the fact that shippers are inclined to misread situations as romantic because thy are shippers. You cannot deny this since I was a part of a community that held that very same mindset.
In. what. world. are people rushing to the defense of lgbt ships?
The one where people make such an uproar about “queerbaiting” in Sherlock that people blamed the showrunner and not the shippers. (https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/fans-accuse-bbc-sherlock-creators-queerbaiting-series-4-trailer/#gs.klRKNY8)
(sidenote: for a cishet dude, kob sure has an easy time using the word “queerâ€, which is a slur….)
So is “cishet”: I don’t do with my friends, I just “queer” for you because you use “cishet”: You refuse to not use slurs, why should I? Not to mention when I looked up “is queer a slur?”: the bets I could get is that it WAS a slur but is used now in a similar context to “N***a” in African American circles whereas both the urban (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cishet), Az (https://www.azdictionary.com/urban-dictionary/definition/cishet) and even queer (http://queerdictionary.blogspot.com/2014/09/definition-of-cishet.html) agree that it is used as an insult. And if you try using the loophole of “it’s just describing a person!”: So is “queer” relating to “gay” which means “happy” or “joyful or “merriment.”
did i wake up and suddenly live in a world where homophobia doesn’t exist? does fandom suddenly exist in a vacuum where this is no outside prejudice?Â
No, you just delude yourself into thinking this is still the 1960′s instead of 2017 where homophobia is demonized and looked down upon by society as a whole. Where if you start acting like a jackass against gay people, you will be ostrachized. And where apparently things are so okay that people think it’s okay to suicide bait a creator for sinking a homosexual ship (Tokyo Ghoul anyone?)
wasn’t “Not Fall in Love with You†written beforehand by Jeff Williams for a band? as in, not for the RWBY soundtrack specifically?
While on the otherhand, BMBLB is the name of an actual ship? and written for RWBY?Â
First three eyes, last no. Jeff has gone on record to say he just makes songs and edits them to apply to RWBY so no, BMBLB was never made for RWBY. Ergo, putting it on the same level as Not Fall In Love With You.
and it’s not like people were unjustified (I do not mean people were justified in attacking Jeff or Arryn) in calling out RT/Jeff for the blatant q*ueerbaiting of that track. Yeah, it was a miscommunication on Jeff and CRWBY’s part, but it was still absolutely q*eerbaiting?? But I don’t think kob believes q*eerbaiting actually exists so I’m basically talking to a brick wall.
No, tahts a mirror you’re looking at: The Brick Wall is you because people like you never use the word “Queerbaiting” for it’s intended purpose. If RWBY was over and there was no LGBT character: yes, it is queerbaiting. But take a look what I said: “RWBY was Over” “Was no LGBT” “Character”: Each of these qualifications must be met to be queerbaiting here. RWBY is not, there can be an LGBT PERSON and ships are completely disregarded for queerbaiting unless there is no character. BMBLB has no canonical connection to RWBY, was never used to confirm anything by the creators and doesn’t prevent any LGBT characters from appearing.
But the most pathetic thing of all is how you conflate everything about RWDE shippers is that you cannot look your own sexuality to see what is going on. This has NOTHING to do with your sexuality: No, it ahs everything and ONLY everything to do. With you. being. a. SHIPPER. Right now, I don’t see you as a rabid gay person, I see as a rabid SHIPPER. You using your sexuality to force your ship is no different than shippers in the past using shit like non-canon and popularity to force their ships. I know you are nothing more than a rabid shippers because this stupid fucking fight between Black Sun and Bumbleby is NOTHING more than a retrain of Amourshipping Vs. Pearlshipping. I have FOUGHT in wars like yours before I’ve MET your kind before on both sides but this is the first time I can say there is a definitive wrong side because neither Amour nor Pearl attacked the creators while Black Sun never assaulted the creators unlike Bumbleby shippers.
If this really was about being gay and nt being a Bumbleby shipper: Then the other gay shippers like White Rose would have demanded a song for themselves but this isn’t because they take it like good shippers, unlike bad shippers like you.
“people don’t hate q*eerships, they just hate this q*eership!†??? (sidenote: there kob goes with that ‘q*eer’ bullshit again…)
And there you go thinking all queerships are Bumbleby. Guess WHiterose, Monchrome, Freezerburn, Ladybug, Sea Monkeys and Chocolate Rabbit don’t exist.
This isn’t about being gay, this about Bumbleby having the highest concertration of bad shippers IE YOU.
And again, don’t want me to use “queer” despite no longer even being used as an insult? Stop using “cishet” then.
“many of the rwde shipper i’ve seen are bumbleby shippers†hmmmm. why is that? is it maybe because we’ve been q*eerbaited with bumbleby for a while now and are sick of it??? no of course not, that would require kob to think critically! (not to mention, most rwde posts aren’t even about bumbleby or ships in general? it’s about the shitty writing of the show but lmao!)
No, it’s because you have the highest concentration of bad shippers due to popularity and a few members of RT shipping it as well. You guys go around being jackasses to everyone and that’s why no one likes you.
And did I say “rwde posts” or “RWDE shippers?” Because Sokumotanaka, Dudeblade, You, RWBYcriticism, Riprorrude and pageoflore anre all Bubleby shippers who think they can get away with acting this way by trying to use all Bumbleby shippers as a shield, except now people are targeting EVERYONE and your own kind is turning on you.
You sure that lack of critical thinking isn’t you? Because you sure do lobe projecting your homophobia onto other people.
Okay, I’m KO-ing all three of these arguments right now.
Dudeblade, I think I should remind of a certain, more recent entry into the Avatar franchise: Korra. Specifically, how Korra fucks up romance in every way possible from forced ‘know each other for a day so let’s fuck’ (Mako X Asami) to creepy implications about possessiveness (Tenzien’s Wife) to creepy abusive stalking treated as funny because woman on man (Bolin X Water Tribe Princess) to supposedly funny abuse of power and authority because woman scorned (Tenzien X Suyin) to forced,m drawn out, bland, uninteresting, abusive, uneven relationship that was a mistake from the very beginning (Mako X Korra.)
But because people blindly praise Korra and put down RWBY and RT, the CRWBY (ESPEICALLY MILES) probably doesn’t have the confidence to attempt romance after seeing it done so shitily in show that is constantly praised as being better than RWBY in everyway (Personally, I think it’s the exact opposite.) So you have no one to blame about the romance, especially LGBT romance, except yourself.
RWBYcrit, Need I remind you of what happened when there was hip tease in Voltron: how someone attempted blackmail against the studio in order to make a gay ship happen? Or when the Steven Universe fandom bullied the creator of the show for making a “racist depiction” even when the character in question wasn’t even human? Or when the Tokyo Ghoul fans demanded the author’s suicide after making a hetero ship canon? People say all of this because you act just like these people do: You just haven’t crossed the line.This isn’t even getting into how you don’t care about any LGBT fans who don’t agree with you, meraning that you wish to exclude them from being LGBT because tehy don’t conform to your hivemind. So you have no one to blame but yourself.
Bluepulserjamie, you liiterally said RWBY is only good because white people made it. You have no one to blame but yourselves.
Everyone in the rwde tag has no one to blame but themselves for their predicament.
