#rwby hate

They don't know I'm a multi-shipper.

That fandom has been so annoying about stuff and the dc x rwby fandom (an entirely different fandom), aside from their inability to tag things correctly, they also don't understand Jessica Cruz's character at all and tend to whitewash and infantilize her.

I am not saying that every person is guilty of white washing and stuff, but I need people to interact with source materials before creating fan stuff to get at least a feeling of what a character would and wouldn't say/do and not get mad when others who actually do interact with the source materials tell them: hey, this person would not fucking say that or look like that.

In the rwby x dc crossover comic, Jess looked more like herself, the coloring wasn't perfect, but it's still clear she is a person of color. So not like the movie where she looks like A) a kid B) white C) a ben 10 oc.

So before people are going to come at me in the notes, I am going to show some images of three different media, the first image is what she looked like in the crossover movie. The second is from the crossover comic.

And the third & fourth is what she looks like in the comics. There's a big fucking difference between 1 and 2,3,4

Like I adore her as a character since I also deal with anxiety and depression, but while watching the crossover I was like: 'who the hell is that, that ain't Jess. That's a whole different character/white Ben 10 oc'.

But funnily enough, the whole thing with pushing the idea of 'Ironwood was always a bad guy, clearly a dictator, clearly everyone needs to have seen that or they're a pro-dictator bigot themselves' take... Really just makes both the team of RWBYJNROQ and the narrative that the RWBY writers painted seem worse if you ask me. Like, Team RWBY and co were actively and willingly working with IW for like two months, right? Like, they were down in the thick of it in Mantle sometimes, they saw the security camera that some people swear means that James kept the citizens of Mantle under constant surveillance, they saw the broadcasting of James and Winter that some people swear means that James was obviously feeding Mantle propaganda, they saw how he worked on a project that they actively believed in apparently instead of using the easily transferable resources of a communications tower to fix a broken wall. They saw James put things in place like curfews, which some people are swearing is proof of the ironclad hold Ironwood had on those poor defenseless citizens. They saw that he pulled his forces out of Mistral (on the advice of Winter,) which apparently is heartlessly hording protection, and they also saw him bring some of his forces into Vale which according to some people was a show of power. And despite the fact that there was every indication that IW was fully authorized to be in Vale and fully authorized in bringing over weapons, and despite the fact that he only brought them because he thought there would be an attack (which there was,) and despite the fact that he clearly didn't bring his whole fleet - No, he was invading Vale. And Team RWBY and co also saw his 'over-reliance on machinery' and his 'hatred of humanity' at play, and they saw him let teenagers do any fighting and saw that he was running a child recruitment school (ignore if this breaks the premise of the entire show by implying that Ruby shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a fight,) and they saw that he was supposedly grooming Winter. And they saw that he *gasp* was put in charge of security for an event after an attack that could've been really bad while Ironwood and the rest of Oz's inner circle was anticipating worse I MEAN he was completely unnecessarily put in charge of obviously completely unneeded security for your average everyday not in danger at all sporting event that can easily be compared to sporting events in our world where Salem and Grimm don't exist, and so that was clearly an act of aggression and exercising control.

So, if Ironwood is really a terrible dictator who has clearly been doing off the charts bad things that prove that he's a bad dictator since his very first appearances in volume two, then the options are A. Ruby and co are all so hopelessly naive that they completely ignored the clear and obvious signs of a dictator and then made shocked pikachu faces when he 'tried to leave all the poor people behind to die because of nothing but laziness, cowardice, and classism,' which makes them look really bad. B. Ruby and co are all so dumb that they just didn't realize that all the obviously bad stuff he did was obviously bad and should be a deal breaker because they're just that oblivious. Or C. Team RWBY and their friends can be slotted into the same category that the anti-rwdes put IW fans who say that the fall to villainy was rushed and that he wasn't always clearly bad, and written off as pro-dictator probably classist bigots. Ruby literally shared information on the war with him after a bunch of stuff in season seven because she and Oscar decided to trust him.

(Just to be clear, I don't believe any of that. I believe that Ironwood wasn't clearly super bad until he shot Oscar, and Team RWBY weren't in the wrong to work for and help Ironwood and believe in some of the things he was doing.)

But, using that 'James was always a dictator who was always clearly bad' logic, what does that say about the narrative RWBY the show was presenting us with. Because... Team RWBY and co weren't treated as in the wrong for working for and helping Ironwood and believing in some of the things he was doing. They doubted him a little, here and there, but for the most part just worked with him, and then nobody was like 'we were so stupid to trust him after everything he did' and nobody was like 'We need to be more careful because we were working with a dictator FUCK." In fact, Yang and Ren saying anything against Ruby was still treated as completely bad and something they needed to take back, even though she was the one who told the supposed clearly evil dictator important war secrets. Sooooo, if Ironwood really was a dictator, what was the 'Ruby did no wrong' stuff supposed to tell us as viewers? XD Like I honestly truly prefer thinking 'these writers just screwed up their fall to villainy arc pretty badly' rather than thinking 'these writers deliberately made the heroes willingly and happily work for an evil dictator for months and trust him with important war secrets.'

Nora: What so you support Jacques? James: No I definitely do not support him. 

Ruby: So you support Robyn then.

James: No it’s not that simple-

Nora: What’s so complicated about it? Either you support Jacques or you Support Robyn! James: No, not necessarily. I don’t want Jacques in office but I don’t know if we can trust Robyn.

Nora: Anything is better then Jacques.

James: And that’s the problem, her campaign is entirely based off of not being Jacques. We don’t know who she is or what she stands for-

Ruby: Of course we do! She stands for Mantel!

James *heavy sigh*:...forget I said anything.

Nora: I knew he supported Jacques. 

Penny's arc has been, when you break it down, just repeated three times across three of her five seasons.

V2: Ruby assures Penny that she's a Real Girl inside and that's what matters, not that she's made of metal.

V7: The Universe assures Penny that she's a Real Girl inside and that's what matters, now with magic.

V8: Ambrosis assures Penny that she's a Real Girl inside and that's what matters, but now she's actually a real girl because I guess we had to be sure the audience understood she's Pinnochio.

It's annoying that Volume 7 did it very well. I really love her becoming the Maiden and what it means for Penny as a character. Here's almost literal divine intervention slipping her a 20 and going "Yeah, you're valid, you are a real girl and here's magic powers that only women can use in-setting to prove it." Penny earns the powers through a moment of pure humanity in comforting Fria as she dies, solidifying that yes, she's alive and has a soul.

But then in Volume 8 they back away from this and spend much of the season emphasizing how inhuman Penny is; the remote hacks from Pietro, her bleeding green blood, the mess that was the hacking subplot. All so that when they reach the vault, Penny can be given a flesh and blood body that she didn't need. She'd had her journey and now was being forced to redo it for little real reason beyond "We needed the hack plot to get Penny off the board for most of the season due to her being OP, but now we need her back so here's literal divine intervention to solve it."

content warnings & notes: abuse mention, stalking mention, rwby hate i guess, rwby critical, my steady descent into madness over this, please tell me if i’ve tagged this wrong.

Fyi this blog is a troll blog, I made the stupid mistake of sending an ask before rlly looking into it. There's no point on wasting energy or your breathe but just do know they are a troll and don't actually ship bumbleby. I don't want ppl to get the wrong idea and think this is how bumbleby shippers are, it's bad enough we already get enough bad rep as it is.

Side note, their likes is full of p/orn. Like real stuff, I was curious to see what they liked and ye ah