#rick dicker

The stress of being a NSA agent.

He has genuine potential to be a great villain and could easily be among Pixar's best.

Among the likes of Randall, Stinky Pete, Hopper, Lotso, and yes, even Syndrome himself.

However, I figured that bring this up first.

Recently I've been seeing people on this site saying that Jack wasn't evil and complaining about the newgens (whatever the fuck that is) claiming to him to be a villain.

Here's the thing....

While yes, Jack wasn't a villain, his NSA File makes it pretty clear he wasn't a good guy either.

From the way he talks, he definitely comes off like a total narcissist.

Not to mention the multiple facts that were revealed from his interview and file.

-He's a womanizer and a massive horndog. So much so that when facing female supervillains, he can barely bring himself to take them down.

-He generally saves attractive women first and whittles his way down the list in terms of attractiveness. Implying that he's possibly caused the deaths of innocent people before.

-Speaking of which, he pretty open about how he actually kills people and dead-ass considers civilian deaths "collateral damage".

-He's prone to tyrannical and megalomaniacal impulses.

-He considers Supers a superior race.

As you can see, while Jack may've not been a full-on villain, he had the makings to become one!

And even The NSA knew so, as it's stated that they closely monitored him.

When people say that Jack is literally Homelander, they're not lying.

But he's also kinda like Magneto, given how they both view their respective species as being superior to humans.

The only difference is that he doesn't have a tragic backstory and he has a much bigger ego and superiority complex.

I know many people are gonna bring up that he was terminated by the second Omnidroid.

But remember, Bob managed to evade being detected by Syndrome!

Plus as shown on his file, Jack is very intelligent.

So there's a chance that Jack managed to survive and escaped Nomanisan Island.

That would be the set-up for Incredibles 3, being the reveal that Jack wasn't killed by The Omnidroid.

And his goal is the start a Supers revolution and either take over the world or wipe out all humanity.

The reason why: Jack eventually stumbled upon the Kronos file and saw that all of his fellow Supers were killed.

His reaction would be along the lines of this.....

But that's not all.

He also found the NSA Files, which Syndrome had gotten his hands on.

And upon seeing all this, Jack believes that the government is trying to wipe out all Supers and that it's time to stand up.

But he's not alone.

It turns out he wasn't the only one who survived The Omnidroid.

There were three other survirors.

Those being Blazestone, Hypershock and Psycwave.

Who, after they were founded by Jack, were shown Kronos and we're immediately onboard with his plan.

Now this plan can go one of the three ways.

1#) Jack and his crew tries to revive their fallen comrades and have them join their revolution. I mean, given that mad scientists do exist in the world of The Incredibles and how bringing back stuff from dead is what they do, this shouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.

2#) They're trying to create a special device that will essentially amplify their powers to even greater levels in order to be essentially unstoppable.

3#) Jack and his crew try indoctrinating the new generation of Supers for their cause.

Either of these options I think could work really well, particularly 1# and 3#.

In the case of 1#, this version would see Gazerbeam playing a huge role in the story.

And it would led to an interesting conflict.

If you've seen his deleted funeral scene from Incredibles 2, it was shown he was spent most of his life as a societal outcast.

But he eventually found a place among the Supers.

And when Supers went into hiding, Gazerbeam greatly struggled with it due to him, once again, being an outcast.

The conflict would essentially be whether Gazerbeam would will join Jack and his revolution or not.

On one hand, Gazerbeam doesn't want to be alone again.

But on the other hand, he was one of the best and morally-just heroes during The Glory Days, so he definitely wouldn't be down for.......

Meanwhile with #3, I could see this version putting a greater focus on Violet and Dash.

It would make sense given how the first film was focused on Bob and the second film was focused on Helen.

I'd like to imagine that Incredibles 3 would take place after a short time-skip.

4 years to be exact.

Violet would now be an adult: 18 years old.

And Dash would be a teenager: 14 years old.

As for why Jack would want them and the new generation of Supers for his revolution.

Well think about this.

Jack and his gang would be right around the same age Bob, Helen and Lucius.

And with this time-skip, they would all be about 44.

While they're all still legitimate forces to be reckon with, I think it's safe to say that these guys wouldn't be quite as powerful as were in their prime.

So in that case, why not have an army of younger Supers who are either nearing or already at the peak of their power?

Either one of these plots I think could work really well.

And even then, they're a lot of other cool things Incredibles 3 could do.

Like going more into depth about The Glory Days and even giving some context on particular aspects.

For example, it's kinda funny to think that it took Bob accidentally injuring people while stopping a runaway train and saving a man in the midst of a suicide attempt for the public to turn against Supers while Jack here was getting people frequently killed due to his own perverted nature or apathy.

And not just him.

The three other Supers i just mentioned that would be joining him aren't much better either.

Blazestone was originally a criminal, then got rehabilitated and became a hero, and then fell off the bandwagon and a became a criminal again.

Not only that, but I also heard that she may or may not be an arsonist.

Hypershock had an incredibly bad temper and often needed praise in order to calm him down.

So he's probably a narcissist as well.

He also was an alcoholic, which given his power of seismic wave generation, sounds like a recipe for disaster.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's gotten multiple people injured or even killed!

Not to mention how much property damage he's potentially caused.

And Psycwave......

Good God this woman.....

Psycwave has stated that she actively took over the minds of multiple guys before in order to have them go out with her, including the boyfriend of her BEST FRIEND!

And the fact that she looks back at this with a smile and chuckle is genuinely unhinged behavior.

If Jack is a textbook psychopath, then Psycwave is a textbook sociopath.

And given that she has no qualms about taking over the minds and bodies of others for her own personal gain, it really leads to the terrifying implications of what else she's done.

She could very well be the super-powered version of P. Diddy!

I'd like to imagine that thanks to these four clowns, the public opinion on Supers started to degrade.

And what Bob did was essentially the last straw, given that he was one of the most revered, respected and trusted of the Supers.

As a result of their attics and personalities, I could imagine that they all ended up become social pariahs among their fellow Supers.

And rightfully so.

I can also see Blazestone and Lucius having so really good back-and-forth during the confrontations.

Remember, they were once partners (and possibly a couple).

Blazestone lowkey wanting to get back together with Lucius, who has to keep reminding her that he's a married man now!

And lastly, I could see Jack serving as a good contrast to Bob.

Like Bob, Jack probably longed for The Glory Days as well.

However, their reasons why are very different.

As stated on his NSA File, one of Bob's powers besides mega strength and durability is the ability to sense imminent danger.

I was admittedly confused by this at first, but after seeing some retrospectives, I realized that it was essentially slightly more cracked-out Spider Sense, with Bob being able to detect danger in a pretty big radius.

This really contextualizes his mid-life crisis, as he basically has a natural stranger danger alert constantly going off in his head.

And despite having the power to do something about it, he legally couldn't.

No wonder why he was so miserable.

If I had something like that, I'd probably go insane.

As he seen in the office scene when the mugging was happening outside, the movie makes it clear that Bob genuinely wants to the help the guy getting mugged.

Overall, the reason why Bob wanted to be a hero again was because he genuinely loved helping those in need, similar to the two characters that inspired his creation: Superman and Captain America.

Whereas with Jack, he most definitely didn't care about helping the innocent.

He only really cared about the glory, the fame and the attention from the ladies.

Incredibles 3 could also showcase the past relationship between Bob and Jack.

It was shown in the Gazerbeam deleted scene, that they were close friends, alongside Lucius and the aforementioned Gazerbeam.

Which already sounds strange given everything we know about Jack.

But maybe once upon ago, Jack was a genuine hero.

But he let the fame, the glory and even his own power corrupt his mind.

As a result, his friendship with Bob, Lucius and Gazerbeam went down the drain.

And so did his reputation among the Supers.

And then eventually, the general public

I think the main theme of Incredibles 3 could be what it means to truly be a hero.

With Bob (along with his family and friends) representing what true heroes are like, whereas Jack and his gang don't.

And just to really drive it home, here's what I think Jack would look like.

He would still be wearing his old hero suit, which would be depicted as ragged and tattered.

Despite being in his mid-40s, he would look notably older than that (like he's in his mid-50s).

And he would balding with a horrible comb-over.

anxiety attack

I have the headcanon that when Simon started as a Superhero, exactly 6 months after starting his career as a super, an accident occurred, a building fire during the night, while Gazerbeam, Gamma Jack, Frozone, Mister Incredible and Dynaguy were patrolling the city at night, they were informed of a fire near where they were patrolling, they went as quickly as possible to the scene of what happened and the building was on fire.

Gazerbeam, Gamma Jack, Mister Incredible and Dynaguy along with other supers who arrived at the scene, began to get the civilians out of the burning building, while Frozone tried to put out the fire with his ice (although it was in vain since the smoke from the fire caused Frozone to dehydrate quickly, inhibiting his powers).

While they were getting all the civilians they could out. Inside the burning building, Gazerbeam was carrying a small boy of about 12 years old in one arm and an unconscious adult woman with the other arm over his shoulder. When Gazerbeam ran out of the building with both of them in his arms, he managed to see a scared little girl coughing from the smoke from the fire, hiding under a table; Gazerbeam, noticing the girl, rushed out and left the boy and the woman he was carrying to safety in order to return as quickly as possible for the girl. When Gazerbeam left and left the boy and the woman with the paramedics, he ran as fast as he could inside the building again and went to the place where he had seen the girl hiding under the table to save her.

When he arrived at the place where the girl was, in fact, the girl was still there, but now lifeless (probably because she breathed too much smoke from the fire). When Gazerbeam saw the girl showing no signs of life, he picked her up in his arms and ran out of the building before it collapsed due to the fire, while running, he had faith that the girl was fine and that she was just unconscious, unfortunately that was not the case. When he went out with the girl in his arms, he quickly left her with the paramedics who tried to revive her for 10 minutes without success, when they saw that there was nothing that could be done for the girl, the paramedics proceeded to cover her body with a white sheet to continue caring for the other injured civilians.

Gazerbean just stared at the scene, paralyzed, stunned, and in shock. He loved his job as a super, helping people, protecting the weak, saving the defenseless. That's what Gazerbean had been doing for the past six months since he began his career as a super. He did it with love, passion, and determination. There was nothing Simon enjoyed more than helping people. And that's what he'd been doing for the past few months, successfully completing each of his missions. Even though it had been six months since Simon started as Gazerbeam, this was his... first reality check.

Here Simon realized that the hardest part of being a super is that you can't always save everyone.

He had never stopped to think that something like this could happen, he just thought that as long as he gave his best, everything would be fine. Besides, the other supers had been guiding him on how to be a super, on how to act under pressure (by Mister Incredible), on how to prioritize mid-fight (by Frozone), on how to deal with his fans (by Gamma Jack), etc, etc. But no one ever told him what to do in these situations, no one ever told him that these situations could happen and he hadn't stopped to think about it before either.

The fire was already out, only smoke and fire alarms remained. When Gazerbeam reacted and came out of shock, he looked around, at the civilians both injured and healthy, paramedics and firefighters running from one side to the other, supers helping injured civilians, a few other supers just staring perplexed at the destroyed building, he returned his gaze to the lifeless body of the girl already covered with a sheet. Gazerbeam began to feel a very strong pressure in his chest, a heaviness in his shoulders, he was short of air, breathing was difficult, he couldn't hear all the background noise, he only heard echoes, an overwhelming despair consumed him in a matter of seconds. He didn't know what to do and he didn't want anyone to see him like that, so he ran away from the crowd without anyone seeing him, he got away from the disaster, he stopped running and started walking, he went into an alley that was across the sidewalk he was walking on, his knees gave way as the darkness of the alley covered him, he collapsed to his knees on the ground, he still couldn't breathe, his head was spinning and there were only two images in his head, when the little girl was scared under the table and when the paramedics covered her with that white sheet.

In his head, the only thoughts bouncing around were: Could I have saved her if I'd hurried? Could I have carried all three of them? She was just a kid. Is it my fault? Did I really do my best? Could I have done more?!.

Gamma Jack looked through the crowd for his friends. He saw Frozone, Mister Incredible, and Dynaguy talking together near a fire truck. He approached them and asked where Gazerbeam was. They thought Gazerbeam and Gamma Jack were together. When they saw that they weren't, the four of them began to worry, wondering if something had happened to him, or if he was still inside the building. They asked a paramedic if they had seen Gazerbeam, to which he replied that he had seen him quickly leave the place a couple of minutes ago.

This calmed them down a bit, but they were still worried about where their friend had gone. They didn't hear from him again that night or the next day. The next time they saw each other, it was because Lucio and Bob had come looking for him at his office a couple of days after not hearing from him. To which Simon only excused himself by saying he had been very busy with work.

Hearing the glory days heroes roaming the island, miraculously alive but heavily injured.

Watching the glory days heroes build a community on the island, restoring that sense of 'family'.

The nights where you're patrolling and your adrenaline kicks in the moment you hear footsteps, you're the only one awake right now.

Exploring the different parts of the island to check for intruders, you hear people talking. It's none of your fellow security guards.

The Supers have somehow not lost their humanity, despite their circumstances. But they do still hold Syndrome in very low regards.

Despite there still being humanity within them, they become Vengeful and think of ways to torture Syndrome instead of killing him. Mirage and the guards who helped them are also on that list.

Arriving on the island with Mr incredible, Elastigirl, Dash, Violet, Jack-Jack and Frozone.The kids all meet their new uncle and aunt figures, all of them spoiling and treating the kids in their own ways