#proship discourse

There was a callout post on a person i used to be friends with, and most points of the callout post were valid as this person got outed to be weird around Minors despite having mdni in their bio and being overall kinda creepy and manipulative and just trying to get fanart of their character from anyone possible (including me).

They deactivated and i also came forward with what this person has done to me (mostly just using our friendship for my art and fics at any time possible and asking for that stuff in the worst ways possible and always making normal posts about someone i like sexual), but what still kinda annoys me with how much some people focused on this persons art.

That person also made art and fics, and after that person got called out almost everyone was just talking about how bad their art and fics were and another person included that they were writing rape fics in their callout.

when someone gets outed as an actual bad person, then you should also focus on the actual bad things they've done to others, and not what they draw and write in their free time. Actual people have been hurt and you (gen you) focus on what this person likes to draw and write? This leads to people just missing the point entirely and are just there to shit on their creations. And it also just causes online bullying and normalizes this behavior in other callout posts.

And wether or not a person is good or bad, i think being mean about their art and fics is always wrong and doesn't make you a better person because it just leads to bullying 99% of the time.

Bullying is not the way to get someone off the Internet. When making a callout post focus on actual important things and how they have hurt other people, then block the person and hopefully they take a step back from social media on their own.

(sorry if anything is worded badly here I'm tired as fuck and getting this into words was kinda difficult at times, i did not intend to make this ask so long 🥲)

I'm very sorry you had to deal with such a person 🫂

And you're absolutely right in pointing out that it's actually really important to focus on the actual wrongdoings and not on the fictional stuff they're creating.

It reminds me of finding out that Hans Zimmer is actually quite the transphobe, and all of a sudden, everyone went: "Yeah, his compositions were never that good to begin with."

Look me in the eyes and tell me that not everyone and their mama was going bonkers over the Pirates Of The Caribbean soundtrack, Interstellar or Dune. I know I sure had a mighty hayday with the Dune soundtrack!

And who else do we know who also actively denies facts and evidence for the sake of their own agenda?

Very much this‼

last night, I received an anon message that said, "you guys want to be oppressed so bad" on my proship-selfship blog and I can't stop thinking about it because it's so stupid, like, who said we "want" to be oppressed, let alone feel like we are oppressed??? I've never seen a proshipper say anything of that nature, lol

the reason we make "safe" spaces for ourselves is because everything is overrun by antis harassing us nowadays, so we are more or less forced to make our own spaces just so we can exist in peace, but that doesn't equal oppression or whatever, it's just annoying (<- I suspect they may refer to us making our own spaces constantly, that's why I'm saying this)

I know most of these anons just send the same message to several blogs in the hopes of getting some sort of reaction, but I'm just so bewildered by the statement itself, lmfao (I immediately blocked the sender, like always, I'm not giving them that satisfaction, but yeah)

Oooof, yeah. I came across posts saying exactly that as well.

"You wanna be oppressed SO BAD!!" I've never seen someone around here saying that.

It's also very telling how antis have the habit of sending the very same ask to multiple people, hoping for a reaction. I had many of those in my inbox as well.