#pro dany

So apparently some Jonsas are using this to say that Sansa hears a wolf when Jon dies. Stealing something that actually happens to Daenerys. Are we surprised? Of course not. There is literally nothing in canon to support their ship, as Sansa and Jon barely think of each other at all except when thinking of the rest of their family, so they steal from Arya and Daenerys for their own headcanon. Like I also saw a Stansa say "Ned neglected Sansa because she reminded him too much of Lyanna." 😂🤦‍♀️ Like where? When? He didn't neglect her and nowhere by anyone is she mentioned as being anything like Lyanna. That is Arya. But I digress.

Back to the topic at hand. They cut off the quote. She doesn't hear a wolf, it's the wind. There is definitely Others and Wolf imagery and symbolism throughout Sansa's chapters, like there is with all the Starks. Just like there is with Daenerys and Jon, adding dragons as well. But I can prove even more this is completely debunked, because the timeline doesn't add up at all. This quote was taken from Alayne II AFFC. AFFC and ADWD do run concurrently, BUT ADWD catches up and then surpasses AFFC. This is proven because characters in AFFC then show up or are mentioned in the later chapters of ADWD.

Alayne has FIVE chapters in AFFC, so the second Alayne chapter happens MUCH earlier than Jon's death, which happens at the END of ADWD, the same time DANY hears an actual wolf. Of course Stansas say she just dismisses it because she is hungry, or that she is thinking about her betrayals so Jon will betray her or she will betray him. Um, Bitch she is STARVING TO DEATH and FEVERISH and probably having a miscarriage.

The actual order of the Dany quote is, she is trying to go to sleep, has been bleeding, cramping, it's coming out both ends if you know what I mean, and she hasn't had food or clean water in days. She is trying to sleep and her mind is racing from the prophecies and strange fever dreams she had. Interrupting her thoughts she hears a wolf howl, it makes her feel sad and lonely, but she is still starving to death. Finally, she finds sleep. She doesn't just dismiss it. She doesn't know what it means and it doesn't do her any good to dwell on it when she has real life threatening problems to deal with.

The Dany haters are so tiresome. They really twist any and everything to fit their headcanon.

And I'm not even saying that Jon and Dany will fall in love in the books. Jon is her LAST LIVING FAMILY MEMBER! In case they forgot. I know they like to pretend he is all Stark until it suits them. But just like she is unaware as to why a wolf howling would make her feel sad and lonely, she is unaware she has a family member alive. So no, she isn't going to think, "oh em geez! It means Jon my soulmate!" Or anything else about it. Not when she is trying to sleep and then tomorrow figure out how the hell she can eat and not die there.

It was never about her as a character - it was more so about the critique of certain writing decisions (the cultural context of those writing decisions). I think asoiaf suffers from a lot of subtextual racism / fetishization. But in my opinion - I think I used to conflate those issues with issues regarding her actual character and I don’t think that’s fair.

Already gone through how Dany did work to replace the economy, how she turned down multiple chances to sail away and how she had literally everything stacked against her etc. and is above all not responsible for the actions of slavers who choose to unleash violence of their own accord etc.

But I am tickled by the logical paradox here. Dany, as a 14-year-old child, both does not understand the qualifications necessary to overthrow slavery, yet should also understand that she lacks those qualifications. She is a 14-year-old who doesn't know any better and yet should know better enough to know that she doesn't know any better enough.

For her lack of education, at least Dany is very good at math. 8600 Unsullied = 8600 dead babies. 2/3 of Unsullied do not survive training = 17,200 more dead children. 8600 + 17,200 = 25,800 dead children to make 8600 mutilated slave soldiers.

Add in the other children who have not completed their training yet. Kraznys tells her if she comes back in a year then they'll have another 2000 ready to sell to her. So they produce 2000 Unsullied a year. That's 2000 mutilations, plus 2000 dead babies plus 4000 children who don't survive training. 6000 dead children a year. So within the 14 years of Dany's life, that's 84,000 dead children to make 28,000 mutilated slave soldiers.

"Ask her if she wishes to view our fighting pits," Kraznys added. "Douquor's Pit has a fine folly scheduled for the evening. A bear and three small boys. One boy will be rolled in honey, one in blood, and one in rotting fish, and she may wager on which the bear will eat first."

Factor this shit then into your calculations. How frequently does Douquor's Pit schedule this particular folly? How many nights in a year are three children eaten alive for mass entertainment? Let's say once a week. 156 children a year. Let's say every night. 1095 children a year (1098 on a leap year). Let's throw in a matinee. 2190 children a year. Since Dany was born, 30,660.

All the maths adds up to burn that shit down. Tell me again that the situation before Dany was bearable. Tell me again that it's Dany's fault if the already wastefully viciously sadistically violent institution of zionism slavery continues to be wastefully viciously sadistically violent. Tell me again that you shouldn't fight back against a violent institution because then it's your fault when they retaliate with continued violence.

And with that said:

No more doubt who the Prince or Princess that was Promised is. It is Daenerys Stormborn of House Targaryen. Born admit salt and smoke. Reborn in the fire to awaken dragons from stone eggs.

When I saw this vision I literally screamed with joy!!! Seeing my favorite female character ever again was a huge joy! And showing her with that red comet… no question now that she IS the one who was promised! Just as Maester Aemon told Sam. Now I know… this doesn’t erase the putrid ending from the hacks shit season. But… I believe this is an Easter egg for the books. For the real story. The Long Night is given so much attention and so much importance that I refuse to believe this isn’t a middle finger to how the hacks completely ruined it and made it a secondary anticlimactic freakshow. GRRM has always been clear that the fight with the Others is the ultimate threat. He’s not gonna make it what the hacks made it. So I believe this scene was a reminder that in the real story, the Others are the greatest threat. And the one who was promised is Daenerys Targaryen. She is a hero. She was never meant to have that putrid turn from the shit season. I don’t care what anyone tells me.

Even if HotD S3 and S4 suck or Knight of the Seven Kingdoms or Aegon’s Conquest… if they have more stuff like this… it’ll be worth it. I mean what I want more than anything are the books. The real ending. But if they continue throwing subtle jabs at the awful writing and ending from the two hacks… I am all for it!