#pride discourse

Without more substantial measures, foundational rights, and the means to protect ourselves, it's not going to last

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I ate up every opportunity to be decked out in stickers and rained on with confetti and yes I think people who refused to ever take moments where things were joyful is a problem, but I also think many people "missing" rainbow capitalism stopped doing anything else besides going to the party, or worse, actively hindered anything outside of it

My city's pride's main sponsor was an oil and fracking company that was giving our residents cancer and there was a big fight to get them removed and we WON actually, but lots of queers who only wanted to party got in our way because they worried we'd "lose a good thing"

When trans people started getting excluded from planning for pride, trans leaders were framed as trying to take up too much space, trans folks started to make our own non-corporate pride and the main pride actively tried to get in the way of their organizing because they didn't want to split attendance, as if people couldn't flow from one to the other.

Like I cannot state enough that I am one of the people who sees the value in a company thinking I am a safe enough investment to pander to me, and can also see that in the wave of fascist backlash that doesn't mean that the public is on board with the fascist narrative, and that despite companies abandoning us, guess who are still kicking it and getting bigger and bigger every year? Independent pride events.

Because the actual biggest issues with corporate pride are

the desperation to take anyone's money, regardless of where it came from,

the lack of hesitation in dumping people who do not conform enough with the goal of presenting pride as a chaste and corporate-friendly space

People who think you have to use the pronouns that come with the gender you identify as are so weird to me.

Like no the pronouns you use do not dictate the gender you identify as.

Who gives a shit if a girl uses he/him pronouns? Its what's most comfortable for him so why do you care? Hes still a woman he just doesn't use the pronouns YOU think he should so in your eyes hes invalid.

The same people who say woman cant use he/him pronouns will turn around and use she/her for drag queens like what's the difference? Why can you use the correct pronouns for someone when they are in drag but not when they tell you those are the ones the use solely? It makes no sense.

A great thread from mastodon by vx. princess size_t queen grace (@[email protected]) which I got permission to share here, since I thought some of y'all would like it:

"is the bi woman's cishet boyfriend allowed at pride" feels like one of those logic puzzles. like i have to get him across the river but i can't leave him alone with the cabbage

if the bi woman's cishet boyfriend crashes at pride, where do they bury the survivors

The Bisexual Woman's Cishet Boyfriend is a fallen london character

the polyamorous bisexual woman has three cishet boyfriends. one always lies, one always tells the truth, and one alternates between the two.

if a bisexual woman brings her cishet boyfriend to pride, whose job is it to install debian

anyways, my actual take is that, like, how would you even know. is he wearing a shirt that says "don't get any ideas, homos". i have to assume he's an ally

sorry, lady. your boyfriend's gonna have to suck a dick if he wants in

if a bisexual horse woman brings her cishet boot to pride, does love still win

I'm a straight trans woman. I'm a straight demisexual person. Straight people are sometimes part of the LGBTQIA+ community. This question is like asking if cis people should be at Pride.

Cishets who are not part of the community in any way is a whole different topic. For me, I say if they are invited or want to be there to support someone they know, then yes.

coz