"Other peopleās preferences" and it's actually a mental illnesses. But for you, of course, it's about delusional fantasy. You don't know about poly anything. So let me tell you, it's a SHIT and people who support this is perverts. You're on the same level, so it's not surprising and I'm so glad I pissed you off, because you are a gross. Be mad, babygirl with all your minions tata
Okay @msrinran I know itās you :) So letās talk properly without hiding behind anon okay? This is going to be a long post and this will be the last time Iāll interact with you:
Let's talk about double standards. Since you really want to go there.
Yes, my game includes two poly routes. Yes, it also includes four mono routes. That's called giving players choices which, last I checked, is the entire point of interactive fiction. You pick your path. Someone else picks theirs. Not liking poly is okay and nobody's forcing anyone into anything.
And when I responded that love is love and different players have different preferences here you are now calling me a pervert. Telling me polyamory is a mental illness. Calling me gross. Signed off with "babygirl" to whatā¦demean me?? Then posted about it here in a subreddit dedicated to framing polyamory as a psychological disorder to get some sympathy⦠wow. I think that says everything about you, so I wonāt comment on that.
I agree that asking "will this be mono?" should carry the same weight as "will this be poly?" You have every right to know what you're walking into before investing time in a game. That's not trolling. That's a fair question. But that's not what this was and you know it.
You sent the exact same ask to multiple authors. If you had genuinely worded it in a direction like: Hey quick question how will the routes look like? Are the routes mono or poly? I would have given you a way different answer and you could have decided privately for yourself to play it or not instead of making me aware of your preferences. The I hope gives that sentence an entire different meaning and I know you know that.
I want to be really clear about something before I continue: I am monogamous. In real life. Not poly. I personally have zero interest in sharing a partner or being in a multi-person romantic dynamic. That's my preference and it's valid.
You know what else is valid? The fact that some players are poly in real life and do want that in their games. And as a developer who is comfortable with writing poly, it's not my job to gatekeep which romantic stories deserve to exist in fiction. It's my job to tell a good story and let players shape it the way that feels right for them. Mono players get their routes. Poly players get theirs. Everyone goes home happy. This is not a radical concept.
Now here's where it gets genuinely rich (not even talking about your pinned post which is hilarious tbh)
You, Rin, calling poly "a mental illness" and people "perverts" openly list on your blog that youāre into omegaverse. Male pregnancy etc.
Content that, let's be honest, a significant chunk of people find confusing, weird, or outright off-putting when they first encounter it. Would I ever judge that? Call you disgusting? No. Because that's completely fine. These are niche preferences but niche doesn't mean wrong. It means it's not for everyone, and that's okay.
The mask of "I'm just speaking for myself, no drama" while actively being mean isnāt a good look. And you literally wrote this in your pinned post:
"I don't impose anything, I don't prohibit anything, I hope for a calm reaction without disrespect in my words" but then coming to ME asking: Hello. Are all ROs mono? I hope there are no poly routes in your game? (that is imposing if you didnāt notice), calling me a pervert, calling poly a mental illness (basically forbidding it) and calling my players gross. Thatās hypocrisy 101 so look in the mirror first :)
My game has something for everyone. If that bothers you, that's okay, not every game is for every player, and you're allowed to move on. But you don't get to demand authors reshape their creative work around your comfort while calling my players disgusting in the same breath because you have different opinions on a topic which you can literally avoid the entire game if you donāt feel comfortable lol.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk on why you're the problem. You can go back to your own minions now, tata~ šš»
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hi there! i was thinking about something an ex said to me and wanted to get advice from another poly person.
so a very long time ago (i am old) i started dating my first partner, who we'll call A. after we'd been dating a few years, A and i promised to marry each other if that becomes a possibility for us in the future. so we aren't "officially" engaged, but also as far as we're both concerned we basically are engaged/married already in all the ways that matter.
few years later we both also start dating ex, B. B at one point asks about marriage, and gets extremely upset when i say that A and i agreed to get married YEARS before we even met B. this wasn't meant as a slight against B, just a fact. legally where we all live, you can only get married once. if that changed i would've happily married B also, but that just wasn't realistic for us. i told B that i did want them to be involved in my future wedding with A (if they wanted to) as our partner, and that i would be willing to consider us married even if we couldn't get legally married.
B was very upset by this. they said it felt like i loved A more than them (not the case) and that i should want to marry them instead. but i didn't want to break off my preexisting promise to A or make A feel like i didn't love him by agreeing to marry B instead.
B is now an ex for MANY reasons, but i've still been thinking about this and wondering how to handle it with future partners. in a world where i can have multiple partners but only one spouse, is it unfair to have made a promise to marry my first partner? i do still want to marry A someday, but if either of us ends up with more partners in the future, would it be better to break off that arrangement? is it just a no-win situation? or was it unfair of B to expect me to break an existing promise for them?
Realistically, a large portion of polyamorous people end up marrying one person legally. Them's just the breaks (brakes?). š¤·āāļø
Having a ceremony with everyone, though not a legal marriage, is a common compromise with the law.
I personally don't think it was proper of š ±ļø to say you should marry them instead. I would have more sympathy if their argument was "if you're going to call us married without it being legal, can't you do the same with A?" IE, not legally marrying either but having a ceremony for both. That would have been asking for equality, rather than what you described, which was š ±ļø asking to supercede an existing relationship. I would have considered a request for instead of to be way out of line.
Having said that, there are a ton of legal protections being married affords you in most countries, and I would try my hardest to get these met with other documents for any of my long-term partners. I would have offered that in addition to being in the ceremony in your case. I don't think its wrong to honor your promise to A. These other legal ties that aren't marriage but may help mimic it will vary based on where exactly you are, but could include:
a will šsaying your assets go to both (many places have them go to spouse by default if there is no will)
visitation rights at a hospitalšØ
Naming them as co-beneficiaries on any life insurance/bank accountsš§
Everyone being on any relevant deeds or leasesš
Etc , I don't know I'm sure I'm forgetting some
I personally am choosing to not marry anyone, but I do name long term partners as beneficiaries and get them hospital visitation rights. This covers like 90% of what I'm worried about. The other 10% would require a lawyer and have not, as of yet, been worth the time and expense for me. My mom or whoever they determine is next of kin can have that 10%, its fine.
I will also say, a lot of people gain a partner after having already been marriedš. Would it be appropriate for a new partner to ask for a divorce because just that and nothing else makes them feel less loved? Well. Everyone can do what they want, but I wouldn't honor that if I were married.
The reality is that being polyamorous is messy. (like, hey, so is life in general). And you have to be okay with navigating that mess as part of being polyamorous. That's something š ±ļø and everyone else can feel however they please about, but its not changing. So do whatever works best for you
Summary: Acknowledging the bond between them creates a challenge Reader wasn't prepared for.
Content Warnings: Jealous!Azriel, Slight NSFW; Mentions of Death and War.
Chapter 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
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I wish we could stay like this forever: The first rays of sunlight peeking through the drawn curtains, the lightweight comforter warm from the large body at my back. The scent of jasmine and citrus lingers on one side of the sheets, night-chilled mist and cedar on the other. The tether in my chest warms with every steady heart beat against my spine. Sleep threatens to pull me back under, contentment a yawning precipice in which I dangle dangerously along the edge.
I want nothing more than to close my eyes as soon as they open. I wish time would still and there would be no demands, no threats over our heads, no Empire to ruin these precious few moments of peace. But the stomping and shouting of guards outside the door brings all thoughts of bliss and peace to a screeching halt. There very much are threats over our head and an Empire out there doing its damndest to ruin everything that is good in this world.
I force myself to sit up, to throw off the warm comforter and the arm still looped over my waist. Force my body to move, to not linger in the early morning light, to not roll over and trace the swirling patterns of my companionās tattoos over the firm planes of his chest.
There will be other mornings.
Rhys is gone. Cassian still snores from his bed, half hidden in the shadows. Azriel sits up with a grunt beside me. The slight tremor of disappointment that runs down the tether that links usĀ
tells me heās not thrilled about the arrangement either.
If I had more time, Iād be a little more mortified about the drool I feel crusted to my cheek, or the way my hair is sprouting out the side of my head like one of Aniseās vines. āShit! Itās late!ā
Azrielās hazel gaze flicks to the door. āWe wanted to give you as much time as possible to rest.ā
My heart constricts painfully tight in my chest. Last night was an ordeal, yes, but I have no physical wounds, not like they do, and no one has offered them the same luxury. I want to kiss him. Want to crawl back into bed and into his lap, tangle my fingers in the thick locks of his hair and kiss him until we can both forget how awful the last couple of days have been. I want to lose myself in him, let him lose himself in me until there is no longer all this shit between us. I want to know what the bond might feel like if we had the time to explore it properly. Instead, I lean forward and give his scarred hand a squeeze.
āThank you.ā And before he can even respond, Iām sprinting for the secret door.Ā
Rhys already has it open. It looks like heās been watching the door to make sure the guards donāt try to come in before Iām gone. Thereās no time to share anything other than a conspiratorial nod before the darkness of the tunnel envelops me and the door locks shut behind me.Ā
I have to sneak past Cook as he gets the stove lit for the day, his back turned as I sprint from the cellar, the noise of the door opening only covered because he keeps banging logs against the old iron doors to make them fit. The Guards have made collecting the right size firewood difficult, as theyāve been stealing his carefully crafted supply to make fires to keep themselves warm during the night shift.
Thank the Mother and every god of luck we have that no one sees me run down the hall and back into my room.
There is still a little bit of the Ravenās blood on the wall. I find myself shuddering as I race past it to get to my closet. The Senate Meeting is in an hour, maybe less. What I would give to have wings!
I throw on the first dress I can find and dip into the bathroom to fix my hair. Shit Iām going to look awful! At least I can blame some of it on the ride over, but Father will never let me hear the end of it. Hell, if Brannagh and Amarathan donāt beat him to it.
I wrangle my hair into a braid that I wrap around the back of my head and pin in place with a gold clip thatās sharp enough to stab someone with, just in case. I shouldnāt be totally unarmed. Scrambling, I remember my Motherās blade in my vanity drawer, and I lose precious seconds finding a way to hide it in the extra fabric tucked into the gold belt around my waist.Ā
Anise meets me at my bedroom door, looking solemn. āI looked into those other gladiators like you asked.ā
I loop my arm through hers. āWalk with me, please.ā Her stiffness tells me sheās still mad, but she obliges me.
āThe Attor is always top of the list, you know this.ā She says with a sigh. At least for now, she has decided to pretend to tolerate whatever nonsense she thinks Iām getting into. I will take this fragile peace while it lasts.
I shiver. āHard pass. What are their other options?ā
āSenator Thessian has three Elven archers who have never been beaten.ā
Archers leave too many variables. Especially since last time theyād flooded the arena and the Elves had won by finding a perch on some driftwood and slowly picking the competitors off one at a time. They need someone who can match their physicality with a sword, regardless of the obstacles in the arena.
āToo many uncontrollable variables.ā
She sighs again as we inch closer to the front doors, and the Guards that stand waiting. āSenator Kallias just acquired an orc from the Western Wastes. He is untested, but his staff says he paid a pretty coin for it.āĀ
Better. I like those odds a little more.
I kiss her cheek as we reach the front door. āYouāre wonderful, Anise! I will find a way to thank you later.ā
She frowns at me as her weathered hand squeezes my arm. āYou shouldnāt go alone.ā
In earshot now, a young Fae guard says, āShe will have a squad after the events of last night.ā
I fight back the urge to roll my eyes. A squad of males loyal to my Father. Iām just as likely to be dragged off the horse and murdered in the road by them than another Raven. A thought that does make me uneasy. I could, probably, hold them off on my own, but truth be told, now that Iāve been forced to stop and take a breath, I do still feel shaky. Training and muscle memory keeps me composed, but last night was a lot.
It will cost me precious time, but the idea forms easily, and I turn to Anise. āGood thing I have a few gladiators to protect me.ā
Her frown deepens. āI am not comforted by that.ā
I pull free of her and turn to the guard. I canāt bring Rhys with me; bringing the figurehead of a known rebellion into a Senate meeting would be grounds enough for Father to take my head here and now. I canāt bring Cassian either, heāll need every precious second he can get for that leg to heal. āBring Azriel to me.ā
The guard hesitates, clearly taken back.Ā
I keep walking towards the stables. āQuickly, or itāll be your head I throw on the chopping block for making me late.ā
That does the trick.
I bite back a grin as I make it to the stables in record time and instruct Grayson, a wiry, half dryad stable boy, to prepare two horses. By the time the Guard brings Azriel, Iām settled in the saddle.Ā
āThe Emperor will not like this,ā the Guard begins.
āI did not ask for your opinion.ā I state, using my best courtly voice. Mother always used to tell me I sounded just like my Father. It had always felt like an insult, but at least it has its uses.
Besides, the way Azriel grins as he swings into his own saddle is enough to ease the discomfort. I think itās a flicker of pride I feel down the bond from him, but Iām not totally certain. Perhaps Iām imagining it, but I sit a little straighter in the saddle regardless. I want to make all of them proud. I want them to know I can do this, that Iām not some fragile little girl. I can handle what theyāve asked of me.
We head out before the Guard are totally ready, giving us a bit of space between us and them. There isnāt exactly room to talk at the pace we set, but I appreciate the breathing room all the same. At least, for now, it doesnāt look like theyāve been instructed to stab me in the back.Ā
The ride to the Capital is a blur all the way up until weāre in the city once more. The crowds are significantly less than yesterday, but there are still crushed roses and streamers in the streets. Worse, the crucifixes still stand, the Illyrian bodies still pinned.Ā
I nearly bite through my tongue with how hard Iām clenching my jaw. Some of those males were still alive yesterday. None are today. There is no obvious intent to remove them either, to offer a proper burial. People walk past like they donāt notice the carrion coming in to pick the bodies apart.
Azriel remains stiff and silent beside me. I try my best not to look at him, to not make it obvious that I am checking on him now that the Guard have finally caught up.
I do not breathe any easier once inside the Palace. The place feels like it should have heads on spikes posted at every entrance. All the glittering gold pillars and sparkling fountains feel out of place in a spot built upon the blood of so many innocent lives. I never liked it here, but more and more this place is starting to give me the same anxiety Iād have walking into a dragonās lair.
The Guards follow close behind, as I once again hold the chain around Azrielās throat. It feels heavier today, the metal hot from the sun.Ā
āYouāre welcome to leave the brute with us, Highness,ā one of them sneers. āWeād watch over him carefully.ā
Iām still debating how much time it would take me to strangle the male with the chain as we reach the Audience Chamber.Ā
āIgnore him,ā Azriel huffs in my ear. As soon as weād gotten off the horses heād taken his position behind me, close enough that my hip brushed his if I turned even a little. Maybe itās a little too close for the story weāve been selling, but it puts him between me and anyone trying to stab me in the back like a giant shield and he knows it. I donāt like that he doesnāt have armor to protect him, should something happen, but we simply havenāt had the time to find any. A situation Iāll need to handle before we leave the city.
The Chamber doors are still open, by some miracle, and bits of conversation float towards me as I enter. All of which suddenly halt as soon as the gathered group of elites realize who Iāve brought with me.Ā
I square my shoulders, even as the heat of Azrielās withering glare skids across my shoulder. Heās very expressive today, and I have a sinking feeling thatās on me. Our proximity makes the bond relax, not so taut between my ribs any more, but it also heightens emotions. My protectiveness mounts the longer weāre together, I catch myself leaning towards violence anytime somebody looks at him wrong and from what the nymphs used to tell me, itās usually worse for males.
Today will be interesting.Ā
We walk down the center of the room, towards the throne where my Father lounges, being fanned by two slaves with palm fronds. Amarantha already sits to his right, drinking from a goblet of wine, her mood sour. Both their eyes narrow in on me, then Azriel, as the crowd dramatically parts, like we have the plague.
I give a brief curtsy to my Father as I take the seat next to him. A seat that has long been empty and was more for show than use. Nothing my Mother ever said in these meetings came to pass. The rest of the senate seats are filled by males, Amarantha and Brannagh the only exceptions.Ā
āBe seated,ā Father calls out, waving a hand in irritation.Ā
A servant comes with a tray of wine and fruits, and despite the rumbling of my stomach, I wave it away. Iād like to not test my luck today; Iām just as likely to be poisoned as I am stabbed and even Azriel canāt do anything if I ingest arsenic.Ā
The Emperor leans over in his seat, gray eyes sharp, jaw clenched tight. Heād never hit me in front of so many people, but that doesnāt mean Iām safe from his wrath either.Ā
I brace myself, hands folded gently in my lap, even as Azriel tenses from his perch behind my seat.Ā
āSo good of you to show up,ā he snarls.
āI had an interesting visitor last night,ā I say and I hate the way my voice shakes.Ā
āSo you brought a known rebel into my council meeting in retaliation?ā He hisses.Ā
Thereās a heavy layer of wine on his breath and it takes every bit of training to keep myself from trying to scoot further out of his reach. If heās been up drinking, thatās a sign weāre moving in the right direction, heās so off his game heās unravelled, but that makes him dangerous. There is no telling what he could do next and my first impulse is to curl into a ball and make myself as small as possible.
āI questioned my safety in the hands of your guards on the empty roads over here,ā I say, digging my nails into my palms to get the words out.Ā
āBut not with this savage?ā He gestures with his chin towards Azriel.
All I can see is red. If I had not used so much energy to kill the Raven last night, my powers might not be slumbering so deep beneath my skin now. For that I am grateful. I do not need one more thing to worry about today.Ā
āTheir interests are in keeping this deal for their people, thatās hard to do if Iām dead,ā I retort through my teeth.
āWeāll discuss this later,ā he snarls.
My hands shake in my lap as Azrielās shadow makes its way around my ear again, murmuring softly in a strange language as it rubs itself against my temple soothingly. It is an effort to breathe evenly and I do my best to turn my attention away from my Father and to study those in attendance today instead.Ā
Thessian, Kallias and Beron sit on my right. Eris stands behind his fatherās seat, serving as a guard today, and the auburn haired male winks at me when my gaze passes to him. I hope that means he did that research I asked him for yesterday.
Azrielās hand tightens on the back of my seat with just enough pressure I hear the metal groan. Thankfully, no one seems to notice but me.Ā
On the opposite side of the room sits Dagdan and Brannagh, their seats pushed together instead of giving them the five feet of distance all the other chairs have, just so no one is close enough to throw a punch if things get heated, as it often does. Next to them are senators Helion and Tamlin. Helion studies Azriel intently over the edge of his goblet of wine, but I canāt tell if itās genuine interest or the same disdain everyone else has been throwing his way.Ā
Tamlin broods silently in a stack of parchment in his hand, quiet without Lucien to balance him out.Ā
Directly across from us are some of the few Senators who were not previously Lords of Prythian, as it was our biggest conquered province. Theyāre also the only ones on the Council who arenāt Fae. Giais is the only Elf. Ancient and ethereal, heās been on the council since my Great Grandfather, though he doesnāt look a day older than me. Acacius had once held Amaranthaās title, but the Goblin had lost an arm in one of the last battles of the Giant War, and had been given a seat on the Council in his retirement. Maximus, whoās self-proclaimed title is Great Lord of the Dragon Shifters; he wears no shirt, but his entire top half is drenched in gold--gold rings with giant gems atop his long fingers, golden bracelets from wrist to elbow, a dozen gold chains in varying lengths and a belt, all catching the light and nearly blinding anyone who looks too closely at him. Heās the youngest male here, with the exception of Dagdan. The only seat empty is Senator Romuliusā; the Nephilim away dealing with an uprising in his adjoining provinces.Ā
There are no Humans or Giants on the Council. No Nymphs or Dryads. It used to be more diverse, but as Fatherās paranoia grew, so did his prejudices, and the Council became smaller and more segregated as time passed.Ā
āWho shall start todayās session?ā Helion calls out as the chamber quiets and the doors close.Ā
Itās like being sealed in a tomb. I wish Iād said yes to the wine, I think I might risk being poisoned just to not have to sit with the swirling anxiousness in the pit of my stomach.Ā
Father gestures to Amarantha with a grunt that tells everybody weāve found him in the middle of one of his moods. The quiet shifts to something more uneasy, shared glances passing between the senators. They all know this means they must tread carefully.Ā
āTax season is upon us,ā Amarantha says, her voice carrying through the antechamber. āAre there any concerns we need to discuss?ā
Tamlin waves his stack of parchment in the air. āMy province is still recovering from last yearās tax season. Our prisons are full of debtors. My advisors are organizing things as best they can, but rumors ofā¦ā he pauses, worrying his lower lip between his teeth as his eyes flick to my Father. ā...unrest are spreading. I would like to request a heavier presence of the Praetorian, just to ensure things go smoothly, if they can be spared?ā
āWhy should your inability to lead your people be our problem?ā Acacius snarls. āEvery other province has managed to reign in its citizens but you.ā
āI would hardly call the situation in Illyria reigned in,ā Helion says over the edge of his goblet.Ā
Azriel tenses, wings rustling behind him. It takes everything in me not to turn and take his hand.
āIllyria is an outlier,ā Amarantha snaps. āOne that has been dealt with.ā
Fatherās head swivels to look at Azriel with the same air of an owl getting its sights on a mouse. A shiver runs down my spine as his eyes narrow in on my mate.Ā
āWas it dealt with, Shadowsinger?āĀ
The chamber quiets, every eye landing on Azriel. He keeps his composure near perfect, save for the hand still gripping the back of my chair with enough force to dent it.Ā
āArenāt the crucifixions testament enough?ā He growls through his teeth.Ā
Father grins wickedly. āSince my daughter is so certain she needed you here with her, why donāt you go ahead and tell this council exactly what happens to provinces that do not comply with our laws? Perhaps Tamlin needs a reminder about why he should keep his people in line?ā
Tamlin frowns, hand tightening around the stack of parchment.
āWhat provinces?ā Azriel snaps. āThere is nothing left of Illyria but ash. It is a graveyard of women and children.ā His voice breaks on the last word and down the bond comes the flash of a memory: A small body crumpled on scorched earth, a blood splattered doll clutched in its too small hand.
My stomach shoots into my throat.
Amarantha grins on the other side of my Father, pleased with my mateās discomfort, pleased with her efforts of destruction in the name of the Empire.
āSons must pay for the sins of the father.ā Dagdan wins more than a few accolades for the sentiment. Beron goes as far to salute him with his wine glass.
āYou must have known this would happen?ā Brannagh counters. āSurely you knew the cost of your rebellion would be their heads? This is the price of rejecting the Empire and its protections.ā
I glance around the room, looking for anyone to argue, anyone to challenge them. Helion shoots me a sympathetic look, but he says nothing. Eris shifts his weight behind his father, but he wonāt look my way. They might be uncomfortable, but not enough to challenge them. Not enough to take a stand. We truly have no allies.Ā
āYou have never been hungry,ā Azriel says, his voice low. The white-knuckled grip on my chair tells me heās trying his hardest to keep his voice down. The shadow curled around my ear moves with the agitation the rest of them have to feel, even in their hidden perch behind his wings. āYou have never been without clothes. Without a roof. You have never gone without clean water, without people to tend to your every need. You have never known what it is to crawl for your basic necessities and then have them ripped from you purely because the people over you could. My people were dying. As are yours-ā
āThatās enough,ā Father says dismissively.
I bite the inside of my cheek to keep back the growl that threatens to slip past my teeth. How can he be so flippant about it? So careless? I have always known him to be cruel but I hadnāt realized how truly heartless he is. How heartless they all are as they laugh off the dismissal like Azriel is beneath them. As if his story is nothing more than a piece of fiction and he a worthless storyteller.
My hands ball into fists in my lap, power awakening in my chest, bubbling up like a wave, ready to wash over everything in this godsdamned room--
Azrielās hand settles on my shoulder, squeezing gently in warning.
The Council goes back to arguing uselessly, forgetting immediately that Azriel is even here. It is for our benefit in the long run, I suppose, but I canāt get past it. How can they all be so blind?
Azrielās hand slides down my shoulder slowly, rubbing a soothing line down my spine until he feels my breathing even out, until I unclench my fists in my lap and heās sure I wonāt explode. I tamper down on my power like I always do; always trapping it down beneath my skin so that no one notices itās there. My shoulders slump. Why didnāt I say anything when I had the chance? Why do I always sit here uselessly?
Maybe I am no better than they are.
The topic shifts to clearing clogged trade routes. Thesian offers his daughter in a political marriage to Kalliasās son as if bartering items of clothing. The marriage is arranged in a matter of minutes, without either of their consent. Itāll be for the good of the Empire, thatās all they care about.
Helion turns the conversation to imports on wine for a while after that.
I feel myself slipping back into my hollow shell. My voice escapes me, buried with my powers until I feel nothing. Until the words fade in and out of my ears, eyes vacantly held on a spot on the wall. They talk around me like Iām not here, like it doesnāt matter that Iād ever left. Unaware that all of their problems are so petty and stupid when there are bodies of desperate men rotting in the street as we speak.Ā
I want to see this whole damned Empire burn.
My thoughts remain on this one point for so long I donāt notice time slipping away until Father announces the meeting over and waves us all out.Ā
My movements feel stiff as I finally stand. How long have I been clenching my shoulders? My teeth?
Azriel follows, chest against my back, as I move robotically towards the exit, and dart into a quiet adjoining hall. Father will be around shortly, it is not like him to let me escape without further incident, but I just need a moment to take a breath.Ā
āHow do you do this?ā I whisper as the door shuts behind us. āHow do you not explode every time they fucking speak?ā
Azriel puts his hands on my shoulders and turns me around to face him. āUsually I imagine how it will feel to drive my blade through Hybernās throat.ā
This close to him Iām eyelevel with his collarbone. I have to look directly at the collar around his neck; the skin beneath pink from being rubbed raw over and over again by the iron. My hands reach for it instinctively, as if I have any power to take the pain away.
āBut latelyā¦ā he shakes his head as one hand leaves my shoulders to catch my wrist as I fiddle uselessly with the collar. Itās not coming off without a key and I have nothing in my arsenal to make it easier to carry.
Useless once again.
āLately I just worry that heād take it out on you, if I stepped out of line, and I canāt risk that.ā
The raised edges of his scars are a stark contrast to the soft, smooth skin of my wrists. I have no battle scars, no obvious signs of my Fatherās abuse; my skin is unblemished and soft in a way that reminds me exactly why Cassian said I was a pampered princess. Iāve never had to do anything this hard. Never had to fight for what I wanted.
āItās not like I donāt deserve it,ā I blurt and he reels back a step like Iād hit him.
āDonāt talk like that,ā he snarls.
āCassian was right about me,ā I return. āIāve never had to work for anything in my life. Iāve never stood up for anything. I always shut up and shut down and look the other way. I should have done something before. I should have done something now!ā
āYou are doing something,ā he says carefully, hazel eyes darting to the door, conscious of where we are and who might be lurking just outside.
āNot enough.ā
He steps back into my space so he can cup my cheek. Damn me and my fragile resolve but I lean into that gentle touch like itās my lifeline. Heās so warm and comforting and that broken, touch starved thing in me leans in like a moth to flame, so desperate for even a hint of affection. I hate myself for it. Hate that this is all it takes for me to take a breath.Ā
āWe have to take it slow,ā he bites out. āWe have to move carefully. We are under so much scrutiny. I know that it is hard, but you did exactly what we need you to do today. You have played your part. The time for action will come later.ā
āI feel useless,ā I confess.Ā
āHate to drag up bad memories, but you killed a guy last night,ā he counters. āThatās far from useless.ā
āThat needed to be done.ā
āSo does this,ā he assures.Ā
I sigh and lean my head down against his chest. His heartbeat is steady and even against my skin. Breath warm against the back of my neck. I wish I could melt into him, let him consume every bit of my being until there was nothing left of me.
Azriel wraps an arm around my waist and pulls me flush against his chest. My body short circuits, frozen for a moment as I try to comprehend what heās doing. I donāt remember the last time somebody hugged me. Yes, last night heād slept with an arm around me, but that is different somehow. I donāt immediately know what to do with this. Last night had a purpose, Iād needed the security to sleep. This was in comfort. And no one had comforted me like this in years. Not even Anise when my Mother had died.Ā
His embrace is all encompassing, strong arms tight around my middle. Something in me cracks open and tears pool in my eyes as I slowly work up the courage to wrap my arms around his middle, conscious of where his wings sit in the middle of his spine.Ā
The bond hums in approval, or maybe thatās his shadows, more of them than the one curled around my ear move to caress my arms and back.
A breath stutters out of me, trapped by the lump in my throat.
āWe will beat him,ā he promises into my hair, lips brushing the top of my head. āI can take a few punches on the way to that victory, Princess.ā
I tighten my grip around his waist. āNot if I turn them to mist, you donāt.ā The words are comically muted by his shirt, but they draw a chuckle from him all the same. The sound is rich, like melted chocolate and Iād do anything to hear it again.
āVicious, little thing,ā he tuts.
I work up the resolve to pull my head out of his chest so I can look up at him. āIāll be whatever you need me to be.ā Whatever it takes, no matter the cost, I will see this collar off him, all of them; I will see his people free.Ā
He practically has to duck to look me in the eyes at this angle, but that intense hazel gaze goes straight to my mouth. Heat flashes down the bond, a glimmer of desire so intense Iād think I might have imagined it were it not for the way his tongue darts out to run over his own full lips. It feels as if we share a breath, a heartbeat. I meant the words in a very literal sense, for the sake of this mission, but I think I might mean them in other ways too.Ā
He leans in and I feel his heartbeat stutter in his chest. Or maybe thatās mine. I cannot tell us apart anymore. What is him and what is me is suddenly very intertwined.
In contrast to the firm planes of his body, his lips are sinfully soft as they brush tentatively over my own. I lose all sense of time and reason as I lean up on my toes to close the distance between him, to finish the kiss.
And then the door to the hallway opens.
Time comes in a blazing rush and I suddenly remember where the hell we are as we jerk away from each other like weād been thrown.Ā
Eris saunters in with his thumbs looped in the golden belt around his trim waist, grinning like a cat. Thereās no way he didnāt see us.
āThere you are,ā he purrs. The shadows of this hidden servantās hall suit him, bathe his sun kissed complexion in dark hues that make his amber eyes glow like coals. Thereās a shade of gold dust in his unbound auburn hair. Everything about the Autumn heir seems to glow, even in the shadows of the world. āI had a feeling youād be hiding in one of these secret places. You always did like them better.ā
I donāt know how to explain myself. I just start smoothing my hands over my skirts, trying to find some semblance of control as my head spins. He canāt tell anyone what he saw! Azrielās dead if does.
āJust needed to collect my thoughts,ā I say, voice uneven.
Amber eyes flick to Azriel and roam over him slowly. I canāt tell if itās admiration or that look Eris sometimes gets as he decides how much of a challenge a fight would be. Honestly, both those looks are pretty much the same. Eris has always toed the line between flirting and fighting.
āAnd his?ā Itās teasing, not judgment, that much I can tell, but by the way Azrielās wings open and shut behind him with a snap says he doesnāt share the understanding.Ā
āEris,ā I warn.
He shrugs as he comes to stand in the space Azriel had just held. I donāt miss the snarl that flashes across my mateās features, or the way his hands clench and un-clench at his sides. He canāt do anything to Eris, not without risking his head. He knows it just as much as Eris does, which is why the male keeps stepping into my space, testing what he can get away with.Ā
āRelax,ā Eris tuts. āWho am I going to tell?ā
āYou want me to make a list?ā I retort.Ā
Eris shakes his head, long locks of hair kissing his high cheekbones. āNow now, what fun would that be?āĀ
Fun. Eris might be a bastard, but he is not cruel like his father. Beron would sell out his own mother for a chance at power, but Eris? Eris likes to play cat and mouse. He likes to collect secrets and trade with them. His influence in the court is strong not because heās paid for it, but because he knows enough to get people to move in the ways he wants without having to lift a finger. Crafty and cunning as a fox; heās dangerous, but heās not an enemy, not yet.
āWhat do you want?ā I sigh.
He grins, teeth perfect in his face. āI heard youāre looking for a husband?ā
Azriel actually growls at that, stalking towards, shadows slipping out from behind his wings.
Eris rolls his eyes at him before turning back to me. āHave you decided on one yet?ā
The obvious dismissal, or perhaps the blatant disregard to the danger heās in, makes me pause. Why is he playing with fire like this? Is he really that confident Azriel wonāt rip his head off his shoulders?
āIām not on the decision committee,ā I say, but I keep my eyes on my mate, a hand raised in his direction, silently begging him not to do something stupid.Ā
The gaze that was so focused on my mouth just seconds ago drops to my hand and he stills, teeth clenched so hard I can see a tick in his jaw. A shadow snaps angrily behind him, like theyāre fighting the grip he has on them.Ā
āI should think your word would have some sway,ā Eris muses.
He canāt be serious? āYou want to marry me?āĀ
āMost females swoon under such an implication,ā he starts.
āI thought you preferred males?ā I counter.
He grins at that and I am not so blind that I donāt understand why people swoon when he gives them a few seconds of his undivided attention. āI donāt discriminate.ā
Weāre getting off subject.
Azriel may have allowed me to call him off the attack, but that doesnāt stop him from taking up his position at my back again. The rise and fall of his chest as he tries to steady his breathing is hot and heavy against me, Iām suddenly very well aware of his size compared to mine. The thin line of his restraint is fraying, worse than it was in the Council Chambers.Ā
āFine, I will pose the suggestion to my Father.ā
The bond flares with an anger so hot it seers my insides. I can practically taste Azrielās rage as it floods down the tether between us.Ā
āGood, then this will be our little secret, wonāt it?ā Eris purrs, smug expression shot in Azrielās direction.Ā
Gods theyād kill each other if I wasnāt physically standing between them.
āYes,ā I concede. How has this day gotten so far away from me?
He slides his thumbs back in his belt and strides towards the exit on the other side of the hall. āOh,ā he throws over his shoulder, āby the way, youāll want to ask for Kalliasās Orc in the arena. Itād be the best match-up for your little pets.ā
Azriel is shaking at my back, shadows unfurling from behind his wings like snakes, bathing the room in darkness as Eris opens the door.Ā
āI look forward to our future, Highness.ā
Azriel explodes as the door shuts behind Eris, shadows lashing against the walls so hard the lights flicker. His wings snap open, apex talon striking the wall and leaving an angry slash in the paint. His chest rises and falls rapidly, breath rasping out of him like he canāt get air in fast enough.Ā
I spin to face him, taking his face in my hands. He has to get this under control or someone else is going to come running down the hallway. āAzriel-ā
āNo,ā he chokes out, scarred hands gripping my wrists like a vice. āYou canāt!ā
Panic floods down the bond so fast it sweeps away all that rage like a tidal wave, ice filling my veins. Iām losing him and fast.
āYou canāt!ā He repeats and the ground shutters beneath his feet.Ā
I panic, worried about who else might be close enough in the hallway to hear, and do the only thing I can think of to get his focus back: I surge up on my toes for leverage and press my lips against his. Itās messy, and not at all how I wanted this to go, but it does the trick. His shadows still, their hissing cut off like theyāre trying to wrap their ethereal heads around what just happened. The ground stops shaking.Ā
Azrielās eyes widen, hands un-clenching. For a moment he freezes, just as I had when heād hugged me a minute ago. And then heās on me, hands tangling in my hair, pushing me back against the wall as his lips slide over mine. His tongue lashes behind my teeth, desperate and hungry. He kisses like a male starved, like heās trying to get the very air from my lungs. He loops an arm beneath me and lifts, a shadow helping guide my legs around his waist as he kisses me again and again and again.Ā
Now weāre going in the wrong direction again. This is not the place for this!
Mother help me, Iām not sure I have the control to tell him that though. Especially not as he pulls away for the briefest of moments, eyes so dark theyāre almost all pupil, nostrils flaring.Ā
āMine,ā he growls, dipping his head to press hot, open mouth kisses along my jaw and neck.Ā
Shit! I knew going into it that our growing proximity, and maybe the fact that weād both acknowledged the bond last night was going to start causing some problems, but I didnāt think it would be this bad this fast. I didnāt think Iād have such a hard time trying to think rationally about it either.Ā
We have to stop. We have to get back out there before this situation gets worse than it already is. But my body doesnāt seem to know that. Hell, the bond doesnāt seem to know that. It purrs and glows between us, warm and bright in the contact of our bodies.Ā
My fingers tangle in the thick locks of his hair as he nips at the juncture of my neck and shoulder. If Iām lucky, the neckline of my gown might just cover any mark heās leaving. Maybe.
āAzriel,ā my body arches into every kiss. My skin is on fire. I need more. I need him everywhere. I donāt know if his name on my lips is an admonition or plea.Ā
His hips rock unconsciously against mine, searching for friction, and holy gods is he hard! My mouth falls open at the contact, even with the layers between us, heās bigger than I imagined he would be.Ā
Azrielās lips trace back up my neck. āMy mate,ā he murmurs into my skin. Iām losing him to the bond, to his instincts, the primal aspect the nymphs warned me about taking over. I want it to. I want to know what would happen if the immaculate control heās held since I met him were to slip, but I canāt. Not here. The door feels like itās suddenly made of paper, as if anyone could walk by and see us through it.
No one will be as forgiving as Eris.
The thought is sobering, like a bucket of ice water in my veins. We canāt do this here.
āAzriel,ā I start and he groans into my neck, hips rocking into me once more as if Iād said something dirty and not simply his name. The sound makes heat shoot right down to my core and I clench my eyes tight to try and ground myself. One of us has to be in control here. I donāt know for the life of me how that ended up being me.
āWe have to stop.ā
His lips find mine again, desperate and needy and he moans into my mouth like this is the best thing heās ever had. āDonāt,ā he begs. āDonāt offer to marry him.ā
I glide my fingers through his hair.Ā
āIām sorry,ā he whispers, kissing my chin, the corners of my mouth, everywhere he can reach like he just canāt stop himself. āIām sorry, I wasnāt paying attention. I should have been listening for the door. I shouldnāt have gotten us caught.āĀ
The words fall like he canāt stop them. āIāll find a way to get around it. Iāll deal with him. Let me deal with him. Donātā¦ā he shakes his head, goes in for another desperate kiss. āPlease. You canāt do this.ā
I cup his cheek in my hand and he tilts his head to kiss my palm. āEris is a snake-ā his gaze darkens when I say his name, shadows hissing angrily. āBut for now, letās not make an enemy of him.ā
His teeth flash angrily, a growl rumbling up his chest. Heat flares between my legs at his outright possessiveness. Still, I force myself to unwind my legs from around his waist and he, begrudgingly, sets my feet back on the floor. The ache between my legs is uncomfortable. The bond feels like it whines at the loss of contact.
āNo decisions have been made,ā I promise. āBesides, hearing me suggest it might turn my Father away from the idea entirely. At least, to that end, I canāt say I didnāt try.ā
Azrielās hands leave my hips to fix my rumbled skirts in an attempt to collect himself. He looks a mess! Hair disheveled, lips kiss swollen, eyes dark. I doubt I look any better. āNothing is happening today.ā
āI wonāt let anybody take you from me,ā he vows.
My heart clenches in my chest and I canāt stop myself from placing one last, gentle kiss on his lips. He chases after me once more like we werenāt just aggressively making out. Weāll have time for more later, when itās safe. When nobody can take him from me.
I grip his scarred hand tight and place it on my chest, over my heart, in promise. āThere isnāt anything I wouldnāt do to make sure no one takes you from me either.ā
I mean it. No matter what it costs, no matter what deals I have to make, this male is mine. No one in this damn Empire is going to take that away from me.
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Watched a TikTok about a court case in Canada where the non-bio parent member of a poly triad got custody of the child they were all raising together and the judge was like "there's nothing in the law about this" but the state attorney general objected, "we can't just let them do that, what if we open the floodgates and suddenly everyone starts declaring parentage left and right!" and the judge was like "...when ppl come to court it's usually because they want to get out of parental responsibilities not take on new ones" and they won the case. The judge literally went "ugh finally someone who's not a fucking deadbeat, more of that please, poly rights now"
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In the middle of practice, the doors to the gym slide open, and you, along with everyone else, look to the doors to see who entered. You see your guardian walk into the gym. "Here you are, Y/n!"
"Danny...!"
"I've been waiting for you. You couldn't even tell me that you were coming here after school," Danny says as he walks over to you. Once he reaches you, he grabs your arm, and your bag, and pulls you toward the door.
"I'm sorry, I should have at least texted you to let you know. I just got excited and forgot," you tell him as the two of you exit through the door while everyone watches. Sugawara, Ennoshita, and Nishinoya look at each other before looking back in your direction.
After you and Danny left the gym, you two walked to the car while Danny continued scolding you. "You can't be this reckless, you need to have more common sense. I grew worried when you didn't show up to the car... I thought you were found, I was about to call the big boss."
Your eyes widened after hearing that, "No, please don't call him. He'll make us move again and I want to stay here."
You guys reach the car and he unlocks the doors before opening the back door for you. "As long as there's no danger I won't call him. Just don't go and disappear like that again."
"I won't," you say as you get into the car. He closes the door before walking over to the driver's side and gets in. He starts up the car and drives off.
"What were you doing in that gym anyway?"
"I had lunch with them and when I found out they were all part of the volleyball club I asked if I could watch them practice and they said yes."
"I see." He lets out a sigh before continuing, "Just don't do it again."
"Actually, they asked me to be another manager for the team..."
"No, out of the question!"
"Danny, please. I really want to join them. With everything that's been happening, this is the first time in a while I have a chance of being a regular teenager again. I can do something fun and exciting."
The car grows silent as Danny thinks it over. He really does want to see you happy and enjoying life, especially after everything you've been through. He lets out another sigh, "Alright, you can do it. Just so long as you don't do anything to expose yourself."
"I won't! Thank you! Can I also go to the training camp with them?"
Danny is hesitant, he wants to say no, but looking at you in the rearview mirror and seeing the excitement in your eyes, he can't bring himself to say no. "Yes, you can go. But at the first sign of trouble call me and I'll come get you."
"Danny, relax. I don't think he's gonna find me all the way over here in Japan. Anyway, I have the papers that need to be signed in my bag, we can sign them when we get to the house."
Danny just nods and the car becomes silent once more as you two make your way to the house.
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"Y/n!"
You hear a few people calling your name as you walk toward the entrance of the school. When you look to see who was calling you, you see the volleyball team running toward you. "Hey, guys. Good morning."
"Just fine. Sorry about yesterday, my butler takes his job of keeping me safe way too seriously."
"It's fine, just hope you didn't get into trouble," Ennoshita said with a smile.
"He just gave me a little lecture about doing stuff without telling him first."
"Can you join the club!? Please say you can join the club!" Nishinoya asks enthusiastically. He has high hopes that you can join the club so he can spend more time with you.
"He was against me joining at first but he eventually came around and said that I can join," you respond as you pull the papers out of the bag. You hand them to Kiyoko, "They're both signed so I can join the club and go to the training camp."
"Yay! That's awesome!" Yachi exclaimed excitedly.
"YAY!!" Nishinoya exclaims before jumping on you to hug you. You get knocked down to the ground from the force of him slamming into you, but you laugh because you can't help but find him really cute with how excited he gets. Nishinoya was surprised that you didn't move out of the way like girls usually do, or didn't slap him like Kiyoko did that one time. His heart pounded rapidly as you hugged him back and laughed.
But it was all short-lived since Daichi and Sugawara pulled him off of you so you could get up off the ground. "You gotta be more careful, Nishinoya. You don't want to hurt her," Daichi says as he pulls the boy off you.
Nishinoya was disappointed he was pulled off of you but before he could say anything all of you heard the chime. "We need to get to class," Ennoshita says as he walks over to you. "If you don't mind, we can walk you to class."
"Sure," you said with a smile and everyone went their separate ways to go to class. You walked with the second years to class.
"I like your little choker, that's pretty," Ennoshita says as he points at the choker around your neck. You wear this choker constantly because it's the most precious thing to you. It's a (f/c) silk ribbon with a small metal heart hanging down from the ribbon.
You put a hand on the choker and rub on the metal heart, "Thank you."
"You're welcome."
"Here we are," Kinoshita said as you guys arrived at the classroom, you guys quickly got seated so the class could start.
You noticed how the boys would spend so much time practicing different techniques, each one working on a specific technique that they wanted to get better at. You help out all of them however you can. With all the practicing they've been doing and having so much determination to improve on their skills, you believe that they're gonna make it this year.
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It soon came time for you all to leave for the week-long training camp. Danny drives you to the school in the middle of the night so you can meet up with the rest of the team. You watch Yachi as she tries to get Kageyama and Hinata to talk to each other. You see Yamaguchi trying to comfort her as she fails and you can't help but feel bad for her.
A few hours later, you guys finally make it to your destination. You get off the bus and look around in amazement, the place looks beautiful. You look over at Yachi who is being comforted by Yamaguchi and Tsukishima, who is failing to show too much affection. You noticed that Yamaguchi shows way more affection than Tsukishima does, it looks like he does care, he just has trouble showing it.
You laugh when you hear Hinata getting excited about seeing the Tokyo Tower which is actually a radio tower. "What's the deal?" The tall boy with dark spikey hair asks Daichi. "You guys don't have steel towers in Miyagi? Is like, this a real thing I don't know about?"
"Oh well excuse us if we country folk don't know what the Tokyo Tower looks like!"
Judging by that guy's reaction, I'm guessing they've made that mistake before.Ā "I have to ask. Who made the mistake last time?"
"Nishinoya and Tanaka," Sugawara responded with his eyes still closed. He looks so disappointed. You couldn't help but start laughing.
"You can't blame us! We've never been to Tokyo or seen the Tokyo Tower before!"
You were surprised to suddenly see Nishinoya right next to you. "Dude, I swear you move like a cat. By the way, even I can tell that's a radio tower." Right after those words left your mouth you felt yourself hitting something hard. "S-sorry," you say as you back up. You look up to see the tall boy with dark spikey hair standing in front of you.Ā Speaking of moving like a cat. He very swiftly moved from walking next to Daichi to suddenly being in front of me.
"How rude of me to not introduce myself to someone so lovely as yourself. I am Kuroo Tetsuro, captain of the Nekoma team. And you are?"
"Y/n L/n, nice to meet you."
"Baby!!"
You look over to see a guy with a mohawk run toward Kiyoko, you guess he's her boyfriend from the other school you were told about. He runs up to her and hugs her while Tanaka and Asahi stand by and watch. You couldn't help but wonder what it must be like to be in a poly relationship like that. You remove the thought out of your mind, there's no way you will ever be in one.
"Let's head on over to the gym, the rest of the teams are already there," Kuroo says as he turns to walk away.
You follow the boys to the gym where the practice matches will be held. You stood with your team as you listened to Coach Ukai talking. "Alright, we're gonna be swapping players constantly so be prepared for that. Kay?"
"Right!"
As you watched the six guys run out onto the court to start playing you could hear some of the boys talking amongst themselves.
"Who's she? She wasn't with them the last time they were here. Right?"
"No, I would remember someone that beautiful being with them."
You figured they were probably talking about Kiyoko, but she was here with them the last time. You just shrugged it off as you watched the match start.
As the Fukurodani players got into position, their libero, Komi, looked over at you and his eyes widened. "Konoha," he quietly called to his friend who was standing next to him.
Konoha looks over at him, "What?"
"Look over there, Karasuno has a new manager."
Konoha tilts his head slightly to look over to where Komi is looking and he sees you. His eyes widen as a small blush appears on his cheeks, "She's beautiful."
Before Komi could respond the match started and they both had to focus on the game.
You watched your team as they all tried out the different things they had been practicing and working on, and all of them were failing. You felt bad for them but you know that they will get it eventually, just not this match. They lost the match and went outside to run up the hill, which was apparently the punishment for losing at this place.
well i mean i love i love my partners i love how much i can love and seeing my partners love people it makes me so giddy :)
but dating can be hard because i cannot date monogamously!! like not only cus i already have two partners but the same way some very mono people would feel uncomfortable poly relationship i feel uncomfortable in a mono one!! i have so much love to give i cannot imagine limiting that!! and i dont feel romantic jealousy! i know its a spectrum for different poly ppl but i feel none and get so giddy seeing my partners with others and wouldn't want my partner to be confined to just me itd feel so odd!
but because of this and how easily i fall for people and how hard i fall, it sucks!!! because majority people are mono and i totally respect and ive been in relationships with mono ppl who can't do polyamory and should've never tried, and those suck!!! so i dont wanna try to date someone who doesn't feel polyarmous at all!! but ugghh i may be bisexual but my dating pool is so so small
Headcanons/thoughts/literally anything lol (I'm desperate for feedback) of an Alpha and Omega who are both in the relationship for a Beta, despite people assuming the Beta is a background piece for their love story, the opposite is actually true. Like they are head over heels for him- and he is only like ambivalent/perfectly fine w/ them. Cool or no, eh?
Definitely cool.
If I were reading this story I'd ask -
Is this a throuple relationship? Are the alpha and omega also interested in one another or are they just both vying for the beta's attention?
If not a true throuple, will the beta be poly and be in two separate relationships; one with the alpha, one with the omega? How will they feel about this, how will jealousy be handled?
Does the beta know that they are both into him?
If the beta is ambivalent with them, does that mean he doesn't feel the same way?
Is there one that the beta likes more than the other? How will he go about choosing? What does he think of the idea of choosing both?
What cultural obstacles are in the beta's way when it comes to the prospect of a relationship with either one? How about obstacles when it comes to being with both?