my-simension replied to your photo âlordofsunshadowandsailor: The recent freedom of spending his days onâŠâ
Great pic, the room looks real!
It almost felt real when I was taking the pics⊠I could feel the steam coming from the showers, and the smell of their sweaty clothes impregnated with chlorine from the swimming pool, and humidity on old wood and papers, rusty metals and greasy wall tiles⊠Still, none of this gets into the text, for it is more about Tobio and his struggles than the sites where his struggles happenâŠ
my-simension replied to your photo âlordofsunshadowandsailor: Tobio, brought up in the fear of God,âŠâ
I love that towel around his hip OO
the towel is @venusprincess-simblr and it can be found HERE
declarations-of-drama replied to your photo âAnd from the top of the wall â tall like no other building he ever saw...â
Oh!!! Time to make a coffee and kick back with your story :D
Love this image... It feels like you actually have a book of mine in your hands... Maybe someday :)
simblu replied to your photo âIn his dream, recurring dream, one which follows him from the first...â
declarations-of-drama replied to your photo âIn his dream, recurring dream, one which follows him from the first...â
Nevermind - I misunderstood the first sentence.
Interestingly, I have rewritten this sentence a few times, and alternated Tobioâs name in each one of the three available positions... Maybe my choice did not leave it clear from the start who the dream belongs to, and who it is about...
simblu replied to your photoset âLike a sleepwalker, up and down massive dunes he travels across the...â
You know, I realize, only because you've told us, that English is not your native language..but one would NEVER know this from the masterfully poetic way you write this story.
Thank you dear. But I guess Iâll always feel insecure in English. I have no intimacy with the language, and I know it. But I guess I feel insecure about my writing even in my own idiom, and I guess that is a writerâs thing -- and a good thing too, as long it feels challenging and doesnât keep one from writing!
simblu replied to your photoset âLike a sleepwalker, up and down massive dunes he travels across the...â
also, if I may be stoopid..this is post #69 for your story..i think certain of your readers..not me..were expecting something "commemorative" of this number.
This is the second #69 of this story, since I restart from #00 with every new chapter. But I do understand you, since we left Alvar and Tobio making out at #66, and declarations-of-drama raised the expectations about post #69... I wasnât going to make Tobioâs dream last so long, be just a few pictures in the update of their encounter, but you know me... The pictures from the desert sequence looked nice, and I love going into the inner world of my characters more than anything, and weâve seen the result here.Â
Weâll have something sexier now, but an actual 69 was never intended for Tobio and Alvar! But there will be other #69 posts along the story, and who knows what might happen with other characters?
declarations-of-drama replied to your photoset âLike a sleepwalker, up and down massive dunes he travels across the...â
Yeah a great interpretation of a dream. Lovely work x
declarations-of-drama replied to your photo âAnd yet, in his dream, recurring dream, Tobio keeps walking like a...â
This needs somebody to do a dream reading :d
This is Tobio tentatively applying  Dr. Freudâs revolutionary techniques of interpretation of dreams, that he has just read about, to try to understand and reveal his unconscious desires and thoughts... But I know even less than Tobio, so letâs wait for his own conclusions...
declarations-of-drama replied to your photo âScattered in this desert of his lay several ruins, of houses he...â
I agree. And since part of his experience is based on my own feelings, in a certain time of great torment in my own life, I totally empathize with him.
omgdoubleume replied to your photo âWith years of dreaming, the parched landscape of his desert  â and the...â
And to think this part was never planned to happen! I was going to share Tobioâs dream in a paragraph, and the picture would be of Tobio and Alvar making out... But I decided to try photographing his dream, and this was the outcome. Iâm happy that you like it!
declarations-of-drama replied to your photo âWith years of dreaming, the parched landscape of his desert  â and the...â
Sadist Hosts! Wow, amazing writing techniques here x
Tobio is a hostage of his own destructive feelings :(
declarations-of-drama replied to your photo âUntil one day â for it is constantly daytime in his dream â for the...â
Until he could go on no longer. . . The wall represents the edge of his universe - it stops him from escaping the desert?
Truth is... I visualized Tobioâs dream, and then, with TS3 elements, Â just took some screenshots of it, with the poses and CC I had already installed...Â
But I must say I am not sure what these symbolic things mean. Is it too crazy to say I just wrote it down? Almost as words were being dictated? And somethings I canât interpret or clarify since they are not clear for Tobio himself... I donât feel like the almighty creator when I write, but much more like a vehicle to the story... I am Tobio in this scene, and his confusion is, to some extent, mine too.Â
So as a reader you can interpret it as you like, and it will be correct, too!
simblu replied to your photo âIt was then, for a while, that he started going to bed actually...â
Wondering if you have ever engaged in lucid dreaming....where one learns to control dream scenarios while still immersed in them. This sounds like that may be happening with the new start point of the dream.
Have you? I did some Dream Yoga -- and Goggle tells me âTibetan Dream Yoga is the original form of lucid dreaming documented for at least 1,000 years.â So I guess I did... But Tibetan is not the form of Buddhism which I used to practice -- Zen was --, and it did not last longer than a retreat I took with a Tibetan master...Â
Itâs interesting that you have mentioned it, for I intend to get Alvar involved with Tibetan Buddhism -- I have already mentioned it en passant, the period of time he spent in Sikkim --, but not Tobio, so maybe Iâm mixing things in this dream?
declarations-of-drama replied to your photo âIt was then, for a while, that he started going to bed actually...â
Love that  :D  But as you have already seen, there was a much easier way up reserved for Tobio...
simblu replied to your photo âImpassable it appears to be, as he stands paralyzed at its bottom. ...â
Reminiscent of a de Chirico..those colors, the lone figure..
Youâre very right and thatâs a lovely association, though I didnât think of his paintings while creating this scene... For LoSSS, Iâm taking many references from cinema, and I was thinking a bit of Bertolucciâs The Sheltering Sky, and the wonderful plateau scene with Kitty and Port... Have you watched it? Iâm even listening to Sakamotoâs soundtrack in my mind right now!
declarations-of-drama replied to your photo âUntil the day â several instances of his recurring dream further on â...â
This actually gave me Goosebumps when I realised the picture! Wow! x
So much wonderful CC enabling us to create these scenes, isnât it?!
simblu replied to your photo âA dam. <  previous     next  >â
Sorry, the first thing i thought was "oh Damn!"
And I always have to think which is which before I write any of those words down :)
declarations-of-drama replied to your photo âA dam. <  previous     next  >â
Oh!! How symbolically perfect for Tobi!!! I love where this is going x
This scene is vaguely based on a dream I have actually dreamed, but that I still havenât used in my fiction, so I wonât share it yet... Iâm so glad you like it!
danjaley replied to your photo âLooking back from the top of the thick wall on which he stands, Tobio...â
I love this picture - I can almost feel the wind and the sunshine and the rustling of feathers.
I love this picture too -- in fact, for once I am satisfied -- with most of this whole sequence! Those are lovely sensations you describe, thanks for sharing it!
declarations-of-drama replied to your photo âLooking back from the top of the thick wall on which he stands, Tobio...â
How does this dream equate to his personal life? I am guessing that his recent activity with Alvar has shown him a keyhole peep to his passions behind his shame? A huge ocean of desires he has to constantly hold back?
I have brought this dream of Tobioâs into the text in the moment of his making out with Alvar -- but he has been dreaming it since adolescence, and his âactivityâ with Alvar is just too recent -- in fictional terms, it is currently going on, still -- to bear any influence of that yet... In the next sequence Iâll try to link both things and tenses, though.
An interpretation to it has been provided by @willky12, and I could have not said it any better:Â âRecurring dreams on deserts and walking through endless desert represents torment and struggle in ones self. Finding the ocean or a body of water represents a relief, a change for the better, or an awakening within. All this is very true of Tobio and fit perfectly with the story.â
Like I said above, I have just written this passage, and probably many readers are better skilled to interpret and understand it, a whole lot more than myself!
simblu replied to your photo âWater with no end. Above it hovers restlessly the quaintest legion of...â
When you referenced the Duino Elegies (#1) a few days back, I wondered how that would work into your story..
In the end, I did not include any mention on Rilke in the text, for I thought it did not suit Tobio, who is not into Literature at all. I think of him as a techinical and yet practical person, and that reflects on his choice of readings.Â
But that first sentence from the first Elegy has stayed with me from the first time I read it -- for it was so meaningful to me, translating into lyrical words my own moments of desperation -- and it was the inspiration for the visual rendition of this part of Tobioâs dream.
omgdoubleume replied to your photo âWater with no end. Above it hovers restlessly the quaintest legion of...â
Soo.. it's an angle.. of desire :3 umm~ I was wrong everyone
There is no absolute right or wrong, dear! Tobio sees them as Angels of Desire, but also as warriors... So you might see them as you like, and bring a new interpretation to my text.Â
I donât pretend to consciously know everything about my characters, and have the final word on any of them!
declarations-of-drama replied to your photo âWater with no end. Above it hovers restlessly the quaintest legion of...â
OMG! Perfection! DEADLY PERFECTION! But I would have to take the risk and go up to that main Angel in the front and ask about those AWESOME PANTS HE HAS ON and where I can download such a BULGE!!! :D
Deadly perfection is a term Tobio could use, too!Â
The angels are using Lady FrontBumâs Metallic Swimsuit, and though it is bulgy enough, it can always be improved with Photoshop, I guess (actually, the intention in editing is to give them a little variation, and not necessarily increase their size)
simblu replied to your photosetâWithout being noticed by them, who are absent-mindedly engaged in...â
Marvelous is getting so many and enriching comments from you! Thank you so much!
declarations-of-drama replied to your photoset âWithout being noticed by them, who are absent-mindedly engaged in...â
Wow, how his brain has been shaped by his circumstances. I totally think I get what you are doing here - his subconscious dreams resonate from deep suppression, too fearful to even face them almost? Too perfect to comprehend? The hidden desert is almost comfortable for him? The force of these Angels and what they represent must be gargantuan to him!
That is pretty much my understanding, too. In everyday life, these angels of deadly perfection are his colleagues, the athletes he works with, and any man really, capable of arousing Tobioâs desire... Though as an oneiric representation the men might be a lot bigger and more intense than in life -- Gargantuan, as you put it! And the desert, which is his own life lived under repression, though uncomfortable to the point of torture, is still better than incurring in sin, or going with the angels, or diving into the dam...
I almost mentioned that the God Tobio fears, the God of Catholicism, Protestantism and Judaism, is a God that emanates from the deserts and arid, impoverished regions where these peoples lived in the very beginning of their religions -- and their God and religion bear many of the most harsh characteristics of the desert where they sprung up...
There is so much to bring into each passage, but the main purpose is to be entertaining, and pertaining to the story and the characters, and not some treaty on religion, or so I have tried...
my-simension replied to your photoset âWithout being noticed by them, who are absent-mindedly engaged in...â
Thank you so much dear for your enthusiasm!
declarations-of-drama replied to your photoset âTorn between unsatisfactory possibilities of escape â diving into the...â
. . . . . no words. I feel bad for him, truly!
And Tobio appreciates it... In dreams, and in his life, he says the same prayer, to the same wrathful God, with the same fear of Hell and damnation... That Freud has seen parallels in conscious and unconscious behaviors is really insightful, and Tobio is beginning to profit from this knowledge that has been recently shared with mankind (this is the 1910s, letâs not forget it)
willky12 replied to your photo âThatâs when Tobio falls â from the top of the wall to return to...â
Such torment. I wonder if you researched recurring dreams for this update? There is a lot of evidence in this type of recurring dream that relates to Tobio very well.
 Like I said in our exchange of messages, I did not research anything -- of what I first named ârecurrent dreamingâ, and that thanks to you has been corrected to recurring... I wrote this intuitively, or simply trying to see it from Tobioâs perspective... I believe to have read that water is a symbol for sexuality, probably in Jungâs Man and his Symbols, that I have leafed through two decades or more ago... Truth is I did not prepare myself properly to write this passage, and I could never have interpreted the symbols in Tobioâs dream like you did.Â
hyperkaos replied to your photo âThatâs when Tobio falls â from the top of the wall to return to...â
I've sat here for 10 minutes and I can't think of anything. That alone should speak volume darling. â„
To be honest, I did not understand what you said -- which is always a good reminder that English is an endless source of mysteries and misunderstandings for me! But I did get the âdarlingâ part, so thank you :)
simblu replied to your photo âThatâs when Tobio falls â from the top of the wall to return to...â
BRAVO! So well done. I've commented along the way... perfect symbolism, poetically rendered.
Thank You so much for all the comments, they are very precious to me, and bring a lot of fresh points of view into my writing. I hope to have responded satisfactorily to them! Â Thank You so much!
declarations-of-drama replied to your photo âThatâs when Tobio falls â from the top of the wall to return to...â
What a fantastic update that was! I enjoyed it immensely. Now I need to do what my lazy brain stopped me from doing when I first started following and taking interest in your work - go back to post #1.
Thank You so much! Your comments are wonderfully nuanced and rich, and they help me rethink my own story and characters. So precious, thank you!
I do believe you have already seen and read post #1 of LoSSS, which actually is #00, for you have already commented on it!
my-simension replied to your photo âThatâs when Tobio falls â from the top of the wall to return to...â
Agree, this is incredible!
Thank you so much, dear. This post, in chronological order of comments and of scenes, opens and closes with you :)
