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Click here for part one of the “painful placements in astrology” series. Let me know how this resonated and any suggestions you guys have! 🦋

💜 Lilith in signs or houses can actually show what you’re good at repressing. Considering Lilith’s backstory. Now this type of repression comes from trauma, and a fear that expressing the qualities of the house, sign and/or aspects will lead to some sort of threat or imminent danger. For example Lilith in 12th house, you’ve likely had to repress your spirituality due to fear of judgement or danger from expressing your true beliefs etc.

💙 Saturn making harsh aspects to Mercury. This can be quite common due to the length of stays of Saturn and Mercury in a sign. These people may notice that they feel completely unheard in life. Moreover, people can just easily make them feel incompetent, even if they have good knowledge on what they are taking about. Made to feel like their opinions and ideas are irrelevant and useless. A lot of this happens in the earlier portion of their life and they can be easily targeted. However as they get older, they learn to step more and more into their power. This is mainly due to Saturn’s influence on growth, structure, and longevity.

💜 Uranus/Chiron/Saturn aspects to the 1st house. These people likely have been bullied for their appearance quite early on in life. They were made to feel very insecure and this likely also affected their personality growing up. Either these people learn to stand up for themselves really quickly or they start developing this trait a bit later on. Either way they learn to fight for themselves even when no one else will. They learn to be their own safety. These people are also quite commonly late bloomers. Whilst others peak in high school, these people age like fine wine, despite having a more mature appearance at times due to Saturn’s and Uranus’s influence.

💙 Mars in 4th house, how was your family life growing up and dare I say even now? These people have likely encountered a violent, erratic, and unpredictable family environment. Constant shouting and arguing, abuse really shapes a lot of their memories of family life.

💜 This is a very broad observation, but I’ve noticed so many people with Scorpio placements, planets and asteroids experience some form of sexual abuse. Doesn’t have to be physical, it could be verbal, for example they could be prone to being catcalled. It’s like their sexuality is on display for others to do so with as they please. Unsolicited judgements and advice etc. They could be wearing the most basic outfits but get more sexualised than if someone else without Scorpio placements was wearing them. They need to learn how to harness this sexual energy and utilise it for manifestations.

💙 Saturn/Capricorn in 4th house, or even planets in 4th house making aspects to planets in 10th house/Capricorn. These individuals likely experienced a strict, overly disciplined family life, especially growing up. Their family, particularly the father figure was hell-bent on humbling and disciplining them every chance they got. This could’ve really shaped their school life, like being bullied for not having a pair of branded trainers for example. It doesn’t necessarily have to be that the family couldn’t afford more expensive goods, it’s more about the authority figure just not splurging on the child in order to humble them. Moreover, the authority figures ego was likely very high, and anything that even slightly ticked them off would be taken out on restricting the child’s hobbies and interests. Again with the thought that “this will teach them a lesson.” In the long run, this could actually either lead to the native overspending and developing very impulsive spending habits, or not spending on themselves at all once they start to earn money for themselves.

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💜 Earth sun + water moon = masked vulnerability. I’m especially looking at you Capricorn sun and Scorpio moon.

💙 Virgo Venus aesthetic is either soft or the complete opposite.

💜Leo placements really don’t have to try for attention. Especially big 3. They really stick out!

💙Ya’ll think cancer mars have explosive anger, have you met Saturn ruled Mars? Capricorn and Aquarius Mars anger can be extremely explosive.

💜Quincunx aspects (inconjunctions) in astrology need to be talked about more.

💙Lilith in the 12th house in the ascendent sign will always unconsciously embody Lilith energy until they realise and learn to work with it.

💜Mars + Jupiter conjunction = sporty children. These people can also easily become argumentative.

💙Need tips on how to style your outfit? Bag a Taurus/Libra venus.

💜Neptunians are so ethereal like please. Especially when Neptunes makes aspect to the ascendent.

💙Water dominants 🤝 clinical daydreaming + zoning out mid sentence.

💜Having water and earth placements is very good if you want to get involved in the arts. Water provides the imagination and earth the drive to bring it into reality.

💙You can really spot a scorpio from a mile away. The aura and the eyes.

💜Moon in 5th house can indicate unplanned pregnancy so be careful.

💙Saturn in 2nd house. Money and self worth are such big lessons for you. How often do you feel like your possessions are either limited or being controlled?

💜Pluto in 10th house are always judged by society regardless of what they do, so they just stopped caring. They’re always caught up in some scandal.

💙Another note about Pluto in 10th, usually the way they blow up is through Plutonian things. Such as occult practitioners, even serial killers etc. These roles bring in the most recognition and attention for them.

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💜 Sun square/conjunct/opposite/inconjunct (quincunx) Pluto. Inconjunctions should be maximum 2/3 degrees. If I see this in a natal chart it would indicate to me that the native has had issues with their father or figures with authority in general. Could also be men in their family. I have also noticed the fathers side of the family were absent, early on they could have been separated. The separation could be due to many threats. If not cultivated well, this aspect is common amongst serial killers and people notorious for being bullies.

💙 Moon square/conjunct/opposite/inconjunct (quincunx) Pluto. Inconjunctions should be maximum 2/3 degrees. Now this would indicate a person who has issues with the mother figure in their family. This could also indicate issues with the women figures in their life. These people are also very distant with their mother’s side of the family. Like harsh Pluto and Sun, they were separated early on. Which again potentially could’ve been due to threats to their safety in general. If not cultivated well, this can lead to mental health issues, especially those relating to Pluto. Dark obsessions and desires etc.

💜 Having square placements to personal planets, this alone is very hard to deal with as there is strong friction no matter which side you look at. These people need to work on the aspect and appropriately release the energy, depending on the house, sign, and degree.

💙 Pluto in 12th. These individuals harbour a lot of their trauma in the subconscious. They have probably also seen some crazy things in the spirit world. It’s like they attract that sort of attention without really meaning to aswell. These individuals may also have very disturbing dreams and sleep paralysis.

💜 Saturn/Uranus/Chiron in 11th. This is a constant cycle of feeling alienated from society. These people may feel like they never found their group of friends. They crave for a home they’ve never had. These are also the type of people who have had friends make secret group chats behind their back and never include them. Just because Uranus is at home here, doesn’t make it any easier. This is also true if these placements are in Aquarius.

💙 Harsh Venus and Saturn aspect (square, opposition, inconjunction). Or Venus in Capricorn/aquarius. These people were made to feel unworthy of love and care when they were younger. There’s a constant battle between loving oneself and self destructive behaviours. There is an imbalance with their feminine side, due to masculine/ figures of authority, making them feel like they weren’t good enough.

💜 Harsh Moon and Venus aspects (square, opposition, inconjunction). Again made to feel like they weren’t pretty enough and probably dealt with a lot of toxicity from maternal figures. There is also an imbalance with their feminine side due to issues with women, and maternal figures. These people also a lot of the times refuse to acknowledge their emotions and bottle things up a lot.

💙 Having inconjunctions/quincunx aspects. They need to be at a maximum 2/3 degree orb. This is similar to opposition. But the difference here is that two signs that have no similarity are making a harsh aspect. There’s bound to be heat and constant internal conflict. This one is about learning to balance the scale of energies from both areas.

💜 8th house placements. These people are constantly undergoing transformations in their life. They can easily leave everyone on delivered for months and when they return, they are no longer the same person. Then the cycle repeats. There’s a lot of trauma in these people’s lives, and a lot of it comes from family. But they’re also naturally talented when it comes to things like the occult. This aspect is powerful for astrologers as it gives the native the talent to deeply study and observe people for long periods of time. This also includes psychology.

💙 Saturn opposite/square/inconjunct Pluto. Again inconjunctions should be maximum 2/3 degrees to be truly felt. This is more of a generational aspect (may reflect the society more so). These individuals dad could carry some sort of deep trauma. This is a pretty heavy energy so will require a lot of work for the generation that has this. In addition, the themes of the abuse they dealt with surround feeling restricted from expressing oneself in regards to what Pluto represents. They seem like the sheep or the scape goat of the family. Also if they have siblings that don’t have a similar aspect, if they make a mistake, the punishment they receive can be harsher than if their sibling was to make the same mistake. Their dad/ authority figures in their family can also be/ may have been involved in the dark side of structured systems and have a lot of experience and knowledge regarding the world from that.

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💙 Scandals are always surrounding air placements for some reason.

💜 Moon making aspect to Venus can prefer to be around women. However if it’s harsh, prominent women in their life made have made them feel like they’re not pretty enough.

💙 Capricorn placements/dominant 🤝 prominent bone structure

💜 Sagittarius individuals, especially sun, love their freedom, it’s true. They cannot be tied down.

💙 Neptune in any house can blur boundaries and cause people to feel misunderstood around the elements of that house.

💜 Neptune rules projections too so depending on the aspect and sign people can often project onto these natives.

💙 Air dominance in one’s chart can really indicate someone who is a sapiosexual. This also includes air venus and air mars.

💜 Cardinal energy (Aries, Cancer, Libra, Capricorn) is very forward moving, regardless of the sign. These people once set on something, will achieve it. Though they may have different methods of achieving their goals.

💙 Gemini and Pisces, especially Mercury. These people are chameleons. They can switch up and become the people they are communicating with.

💜 Saturn aspecting Mercury, in Gemini or in the 3rd house. Many times these people have been made to feel like their way of communicating or expressing themselves is invalid. However the older they get and the more Saturn matures, the easier it gets.

💙 Aries ascendents can have lighter hair than the rest of their family members.

💜 Aries ascendents also can appear to have full bodies even when they may not be athletic.

💙 Virgo sun individuals can really be perfectionists.

💜 Taurus moon people may have been told they have comfy shoulders or they give great hugs.

💙 Cancer women have this home wrecker title because it’s really easy for them to act like a damsel in distress. People will quickly take their side. Men will want to care for them and potentially give up their lifestyle.

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Make sure to also read the note below this post ☺️

💜 Chiron in 1st - wounds relating to personality, appearance and self expression.

💙 Chiron in 2nd - wounds relating to self worth and finance.

💜 Chiron in 3rd - wounds relating to communication, self expression and siblings.

💙 Chiron in 4th - wounds relating to the family, especially the mother’s side. Generational trauma.

💜 Chiron in 5th - wounds relating to your artistic nature, and creativity. Even children and your “situationships.”

💙 Chiron in 6th - wounds relating to personal organization skills and habits. Feeling not good enough. Wounds relating to health issues.

💜 Chiron in 7th - wounds relating to your romantic encounters/ the bond you form with people.

💙 Chiron in 8th - wounds related to your assets, the occult, transformation, and sex. Family secrets.

💜 Chiron in 9th - wounds around religion, religious people and spirituality. Wounds around higher education.

💙 Chiron in 10th - wounds around the perception of the public about you. Wounds around your career. Difficulty with figures of authority. Your father.

💜 Chiron in 11th - wounds around your friends. Feeling alone and alienated. Feeling out of touch from society.

💙 Chiron in 12th - wounds around the spirit world. Seeing and hearing disturbing things. Wounds around expressing your spiritual beliefs. Finding it hard to resonate with people.

NOTE: Chiron, although painful, has tremendous capability to also heal people who have experienced the same trauma through personal experience. Chiron is literally the wounded healer.

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Hey everyone, I’m back until life catches up again, so till then I’m taking astrology requests. I have been into astrology for the past 5+ years now. I wouldn’t call myself an astrologer though, because that takes decades of immersing yourself into astrology. You can ask me questions on planets, signs, placements, and asteroids and I will try my best to answer them. I will not be answering questions like “can you analyse my chart” that takes too much time and dedication. If there are one or two placements you have in mind, you can ask about those. I may not get around to answering all of them, but I will try my best. You’re welcome to ask astrological questions outside of western astrology too, for example Vedic astrology.

Love,

Selene🦋

Hey!🦋

Saturn in Pisces in 8th

This indicates that you may have a hard time dealing with topics related to Pisces and the 8th house in general. This is because in this life you have karmic lessons surrounding the 8th house and Pisces. You may experience challenges surrounding the occult, spirituality, life and rebirth, inheritance, and even sexuality. You tend to question a lot of things you come across, especially things related to the hidden and death. You often have very profound transformations that can crumble this whole idea you had about topics surrounding spirituality, life and rebirth, and the occult.

Mercury in Pisces in 8th

You love to analyse, psychologically and spiritually. You may have a hard time dealing with 8th house topics but that doesn’t stop your curiosity. Your conversations can get pretty deep quite quickly. You can’t help it, you’re drawn to those topics. You could be great at communicating things surrounding the 8th house. Talking about death, occult, transformations, dreams and spirituality could be something you really want to achieve during conversations. You may have fluid handwriting and you could be naturally good at analysing literature and reading people. You can also be good at investigating topics, things interesting you, you love to broaden your knowledge.

You could make a great astrologer as the Saturn and Mercury in Pisces in your 8th gives you the ability to discipline yourself on studying charts and aspects, and then communicating that in a very analytical manner. Beware, the Pisces influence may blur boundaries of these planets and the 8th house in general. You need to make sure you stay grounded and not get lost too easily in the trenches of these planets, and the house.

Sun in Aries in 8th

The 8th house is naturally very reserved and the sun being here, shining bright in Aries, becomes too hot to handle. Lol. Sounds cliché but the sun brings the qualities of the 8th house to the surface, it creeps up into your ego and embeds itself in the way you portray yourself. The sun in Aries is exalted, it’s very happy to be in Aries so it brings many positive qualities into the 8th house such as strength, determination, and vitality. You are strong when it comes to dealing with 8th house situations, as I mentioned earlier things like life and death, sexuality, occult, shared resources, inheritance and transformations. You’ve likely experienced many transformations in life (which isn’t surprising due to your Saturn being situated here too) and now you’re just a pro at dealing with them. Moreover, there’s always this innocence surrounding Aries placements and yours can be quite obvious in situations involving the 8th house, you’re always curious. However, as Aries is a cardinal sign and is powered by the sun, you can take charge when you need to. You can make for a great leader in 8th house topics.

You may need to watch out for when your ego gets in the way however. Although sun being in Aries is exalted, it is still fire and fire. You can have a big ego, and it’s important you appreciate that people need to understand and truly listen to one another for relationships to work out, whether it’s romantic, family, friendship or simply transactional.

All these 8th house placements, are you like really introverted/private, and like really psychically sensitive by any chance? 🤭

This is the information I can give for now just based off these aspects alone, and I got a bit busy. Remember your whole chart does also need to be considered for a true accurate analysis. I would appreciate feedback, let me know how it resonated!

Love,

Selene🦋

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My moon is in cancer. Thanks if you answer 🤧

Hello!🦋

Moon (Cancer) opposite Pluto (Capricorn)

So right off the bat this is a very intense aspect. You may have an intense relationship with your mum, or motherly figures in your life. There could’ve been an early separation, physical or emotional, or the mothers emotions are extremely volatile and may have been abusive. This heavily reflects your emotions, you have a lot of emotional trauma from your experiences. It’s worse because the moon is at home here in cancer so it’s heavy on the emotional aspect. Your experiences may have lead you to store your emotions and it’s very hard for you to trust people. You tend to be suspicious of people’s motives, but no one can blame you because you’re very good at reading people. So your suspicions are justified. Now just be careful to not let it get out of hand to the point where you’re suspicious of everyone and start falsely accusing people. This is because this aspect can get dark very quickly, if not utilised well. Moon opposite Pluto can bring about very dark thoughts and fantasies including but not limited to intrusive thoughts about death and danger to yourself and/or others. It can also lead to dark obsessions that you find are hard to come out of. You’re extremely sensitive to the environment around you. You tend to soak up the energy of the environment like a sponge and can get tired very quickly in social settings. You’re very intuitive, likely have had life altering psychic/paranormal experiences. You feel a strong pull and attraction towards the unknown, you’re curious and you always want to know more. It’s good to be curious, just don’t let it consume you.

This is all I would like to share just based off this single aspect. Remember the whole chart needs to be looked into for a true analysis. Let me know how it resonated!

Love,

Selene🦋

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