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good morning, well actually i woke up three hours ago, so that means i finally woke up at a good time. so we won today. anyways, i finished reading @llamhigyn-y-dwr's nucian fic, and i loved it! ahhhh it's really well written honestly it shits over my-not-even-yet-published fic π it made me want to rewatch the nucian stream ehehe β‘ everyone needs to read it NOW. π«
today on my agenda is the nick and lucian debate π«‘ lucian has been brought into the forefront of my mind again because of his panel with elijah schaffer & sarah stock which is happening later today. tbh i just find him a very interesting person. need to find out more
his instagram stories r lowk killing me because why is he eating up everyone who doesnβt want them to come to NYU pls heβs actually an evil twink but in an intriguing way ig
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Guys Nick Fuentes has been accused of hooking up with: an analysis
Combined with the accusations Nick has faced for being gay, mostly due to "vibes," there are a handful of guys out there that people say he actually hooked up with. At this point, there is no direct proof that anything happened with any of them, but hey, there is also no proof that nothing happened. Here are my thoughts on each of them, going chronologically: (no, Keith Woods is not on this list)
The guy: macaquefan56 from Twitter (not sure what his current username is, won't be using his real name in this post even though it is public knowledge at this point), a guy who Tweets about drugs, being gay, and rightwing politics.
Why people say they hooked up: This guy has repeatedly told a story claiming that he dated Nick in around 2019, telling a very specific story about how the date ended with the two of them hooking up in Nick's car, specifically with Nick sucking his toes and jizzing in his pants. Some retellings suggest there was more than one date and perhaps a more involved actual relationship. His dox revealed that, at that time, he was walking distance from Nick, so whether they met on an app or in person, it's reasonable for them to have at least met.
Why it might hot have happened: This just comes down to whether or not you believe this guy. Some signs suggest he might be a delusional weirdo and/or chronic liar.
The guy: CatboyKami (fka Lolisocks fka Kamikaze), a Swedish-Australian rightwing shock-streamer
Why people say they hooked up: Nick repeatedly "joked" in the past about having had a thing for catboys. CatboyKami was Nick's Internet friend before he eventually visited the US. He hung out with Nick in Chicago for a few days, including for a ten-hour stream that many feel was a date. There were some jokes made that could be interpreted as flirty. Kami once laughed at a superchatter asking if Nick ever talked about being attracted to girls. He also joked about being Nick's first kiss. He did once post a picture of himself in bed with a hickey, next to a sleeping individual who appeared to have short brown hair.
Why it might hot have happened: A lot of the things that people claimed as proof - saying that Kami is a sex worker and stayed with Nick in a hotel - are simply not true. At the very least, if they did hook up, it would not have been the day of the ten hour stream, in which they mostly played in an arcade and debated about religion. The person next to Kami in the bed in that picture really did not look like Nick aside from having brown hair. The first kiss thing was almost certainly a joke, especially given Nick has talked about his first kiss being in high school. Also, aside from those days in Chicago, Kami was not in the same place as Nick most of the time, even when he was in the US. Kami does not claim to be attracted to men.
The guy: Jaden McNeil, former Kansas State Turning Point USA president, former America First treasurer, Nick's former best friend and housemate
Why people say they hooked up: He is the person that Nick spent the most time with, having lived in the same building as him and travelled with him a lot, so there would have been plenty of opportunities. Nick gave him a free place to live and a job for unspecified reasons. Nick was always incredibly protective of Jaden and took care of him in ways that felt more than friendly. There are multiple tweets and streams in which Nick appears to have made flirtacious comments about him and Jaden still didn't leave. Once the two of them fell out, Nick seemed way more upset than someone would over a falling out with a platonic friend. Nick was found to have multiple pictures of Jaden sleeping, also not platonic behavior. When Jaden shared all kinds of dirt on Nick on the Kino Casino, he suspiciously nondescript when talking about how Nick knew what his underwear looked like. Also, they have both said things implying they are familiar with the quirks of each other's penises in some capacity, which would be important to know if you were hooking up with someone.
Why it might hot have happened: Jaden has never claimed to be attracted to men and in fact denies allegations to the contrary on Nick's end of things - that he tried to kiss him and would get handsy with him when he was drunk (he does appear to believe that Nick was attracted to him, though). Nick's flirty comments could have been jokes or he simply read them as such at the time. Even if Jaden did eventually read Nick's behavior towards him as flirty or heard the gay rumors about him, he may have stuck around for financial reasons. The pictures could have been taken in any context and certainly could have without implying interest on Jaden's part. It is possible that Nick saw his underwear or found out about his penis skin issues in some nonsexual context, given they were good friends and roomed together while travelling - same with him knowing about Nick's issues there. It admittedly doesn't make much sense that they would acknowledge knowing that much about each other's penises if they found out in a sexual context and are trying hide that. It is important to note that there are no claimed witnesses of any of the incidents in which either of them reported that the other came onto them.
The guy: Lucian Wintrich, New York socialite, photographer, former White House correspondant with the Gateway Pundit, rightwing influencer
Why people say they hooked up: The two apparently hung out in person multiple times, so there were opportunities, and Lucian is actually, openly attracted to men. The time Lucian appeared on Nick's show was over stream, but it was read by some as flirty and Nick seemed to appreciate Lucian calling him cute and wasn't overly offended when Lucian joked that he was turned by the confrontation when they debated. Nick has said in the past that his ideal relationship would involve a lot of conflict, so someone who is largely ideologically aligned with him and likes hanging out with him, but will also debate with him sounds ideal. Beyond speculation and talking long distance over a stream, the most damning claim is from Jaden, post split from Nick's organization, that Nick stayed the night at Lucian's apartment when they were in New York and became familiar with the bathtub that Lucian infamously has in his kitchen. This came out along with claims that Lucian hooked up with fellow AFers Jon Miller and Ali Alexander.
Why it might hot have happened: Lucian may be attracted to men, but Nick doesn't really appear to be his type. Between boyfriends he has referenced having, at least one boyfriend seen on his Instagram, and if the rumors about him hooking up with Jon Miller and Ali Alexander are to be believed, he appears to be predominantly attracted to men of color - for all the jokes about Nick being brown, he does not appear that way aesthetically and Lucian even called him an angry white boy during their stream, so he seems to view him as white. After calling him cute, Lucian specifically commented on Nick's outfit rather than anything else. Even if Lucian's taste is a bit more broad, Nick sleeping at his apartment doesn't mean that they had sex - as Nick has stayed at plenty of people's homes while travelling. Lastly, having seen many pictures of Lucian's kitchen tub, it is barely big enough for one person to fit in, let alone for two people to have sex in. If they hooked up, it would not have been together in that bath tub. If Jaden is being honest about being Nick's platonic friend, it also does not make much sense that Nick would tell him about some situation with a guy that led to sex.
The guy: Steven "Destiny" Bonnell II, gaming-turned-politics streamer with a more centrist-liberal leaning (some say he is just a contrarian because he seems to disagree with literally everyone)
Why people say they hooked up: Destiny is another person that we have verifiable proof that Nick spent time with in person and who is openly attracted to men. Some read their interactions as flirtacious. While they were cordial, Nick called Destiny his best friend as well as his soul mate. Most damningly, a series of texts, photos, and videos involving Destiny's sexual encounters were recently leaked. In a text where he tells a woman he his flirting with that he "finally" found a guy to give oral sex to, the dates coincide with when he and Nick were streaming together. A video of Destiny performing oral sex on a man whose face is not visible was part of the leak and many believe Nick to be the man in the video. When denying that he was the man in the video, Nick talks about having watched and analyzed it, which some interpreted as, whether or not it is him in the video, he at the very least feared it could have been for analysis to have been necessary, meaning something must have happened between them.
Why it might hot have happened: Formally, neither has confirmed it and Nick has straight-up denied it. In the leaked messages, Destiny stated that the guy he went down on in a car mentioned having a difficult time finishing in cars, so if one believes the Twitter guy's claim that Nick came in his pants simply sucking his toes, clearly finishing in a car is not a problem for him. He makes explicit reference to streaming with Nick in the same messages where he talks about going down on some guy who goes unnamed, so the woman he was messaging clearly knew who Nick was, so why would he suddenly make him anonymous? The story told in the texts and in the video are obviously not the same incident, as the video does not take place in a car. Though the man's face is not visible in the video, he does not appear to be Nick, as his stomach is much more hairless than it has appeared to be in shots of Nick lifting his arms (though he could have shaved) and his thumb does not appear to match, while Destiny's hair is already blue in the video and it was still brown during the time that he hung out with Nick, unless we are to believe that it happened after they were on Fresh n Fit.
