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no. 70 is louis
āI havenāt written any crack theories in a while,ā I said to myself.
This is what my brain responded with.
And slowly, somehow, this idea turned from crack into something Iām legitimately starting to think is the case.
The Teacher.
This theory hinges on one thing and one thing aloneā the Teacher. We know heās told Mikhail he can bring the dead back to life, and he seems to have saved Mikhail from the verge of death in the past (itās even possible that Mikhail actually did die, and the Teacher brought him back). If the Teacher can actually bring Luna back after they turned to dust, itās very very likely that he might have been able to do the same with Louis.
It follows to wonder⦠is this something that the Teacher would actually do?
For a while now Iāve considered the Teacherās⦠er⦠disposal of Louis to be the natural conclusion of a finished experiment, but Iām starting to realize that Louisās continued existence actually does hold some value to the Teacher. His experiment on Louis is complete, but whatever heās got planned for NoĆ© (and potentially Domi as well) is absolutely not over, and Louis would be a very high value piece to have on the board when it comes to those two. If the Teacher actually can bring people back from the dead, wouldnāt it be wasteful of him to just toss Louisās ashes away rather than attempting to bring him back?
With that, we have the very first piece of this messy, insane puzzle. The chances that the Teacher just disposed of Louisās corpse when he could potentially use it to manipulate or observe NoĆ© and Dominique in the future seem very very slim.
So now letās try to fit some more puzzle pieces together.
The Timeline
Weāve established that the chances of Louis not being⦠entirely⦠dead are, while maybe not high, definitely existent. But whatās all this talk about him being No.70?
First and foremost! If Louis isnāt dead, but the Teacher wants Domi and NoĆ© to fully believe heās dead, heās gonna need somewhere far away from the two of them to store the kid until he can use him again. If Ruthven has access to those magic Jeanne clone pods the Teacher must too, right? Couldnāt he just shut Louis into one of those for a little while? But that kinda doesnāt feel like the Teacherās styleā why should he stash Louis in a pod when he could be performing yet another experiment?
We know that the Teacher has a great interest in the Blue Moon clan. He sends an Archiviste out to find Vanitas in Paris, he brings Mikhail back from the dead, the cat he potentially ran experiments on has one copper sulfate blue colored eye [link to a discussion on that at the bottom of this post]⦠it feels like almost all of his experiments revolve around either Naenia or Luna. So it follows to assume⦠if a human scientist somehow got access to a vial of Lunaās blood and multiple Books of the Blue Moon, the Teacher would be the first to notice, and heād be absolutely fascinated by what was going on there.
Come to think of it, it might actually be possible that the Teacher was the reason why Moreau acquired those objects in the first place. Out of all the characters we know of in the series so far, the only one who I could logically see somehow acquiring the Books and Lunaās blood (short of Luna themself, and theyād absolutely never give those things to Moreau) is the Teacher. The Teacher sounds genuinely excited about the mere existence of a Book of the Blue Moon back in his letter to NoĆ© in chapter 1, but I think this could absolutely just be him faking excitement as a way of maintaining his persona and staying in line with who he wants NoĆ© to see him as.
With that, letās start building a timeline here.
The Teacher has a few Books of the Blue Moon, and some of Lunaās blood, and heās messed with both items a bit, but his experiments keep coming up short. He canāt open the Books, as he isnāt a Kin of the Blue Moon. He also has a newly reincarnated Louis lying around somewhere, hidden from Domi and NoĆ©. And now he hears about this human scientist whoās running strange experiments on humans, trying to turn them into vampires.
Isnāt that just perfectly serendipitous?
Maybe the Teacher decides to pay Doctor Moreau a visit. He flatters Moreau, tells him heāll give him the Books of Vanitas and Lunaās blood for his experiments. Heāll even throw in a vampire kid for freeā all Moreau has to do is not kill the kid, and he can do whatever he wants with the rest.
No.70
So thereās a lot of parts of this theory that make sense. The Teacher reviving Louis? Makes sense. The Teacher giving Moreau Lunaās books and blood? Absolutely horrifying, disturbing, I hate it so, so much⦠but also makes sense. The only thing that doesnāt quite fit is the idea that No.70 is Louis. Wouldnāt it make so much more sense if No.70 was Astolfoās younger sister Louisette, or some other random kid?
Letās start with what we know about No.70. They arrived at the lab after Vanitas, but before Mikhail. Their gender isnāt specified, and Vanitas never says if theyāre a human or a vampire. Vanitas speculates that something horrible happened to them in the past. We never see their neck or head. Oh, and they canāt speak.
This definitely all seems like stuff that could point to No.70 being Louisette. However, all of this evidence could also indicate that No.70 is Louis.
We know that while the Teacher seems to be able to bring people back from the dead, he canāt fix whatās already broken about them. He canāt repair Mikhailās missing arm. And if, hypothetically, someoneās vocal chords were damaged when their head got cut off⦠maybe the Teacher couldnāt fix them.
No.70 also seems to be given some level of special treatment at the lab. Unlike Vanitas and Mikhail, theyāre able to wander around freely at night. Theyāre clearly still being torturously experimented on, but they seem to have a modicum of freedom that the other test subjects donāt get.
It would also make a lot of sense for the Teacher to want to place Louis at the lab as an observer. One of my theories on Murr (again, linked at the bottom of this theory) is that the Teacher is somehow able to see what Murr sees out of one of Murrās eyes, using the cat as a sort of living alchemical bug he can observe NoĆ© through.
If the Teacher could do that to Murr, the Teacher could probably do that to Louis as well. If the Teacher was going to give Moreau the Books of Vanitas and Lunaās blood, heād want to be able to observe what was going on there at all times, right? Sure, he could probably shapeshift into a mouse or a fly and sneak into the lab without any trouble, but that would take up a lot of time and effort. It would be so much easier to just have an observer wandering the lab at all times, someone he could check in on at a momentās notice.
The Teacher needs somewhere to put the newly revived Louis. The Teacher wants to give Moreau some little presents for a horrifying and deeply disturbing experiment. The Teacher wants to observe this experiment.
The solution is clear.
Whew! So! I think weāve established some things! I think Iāve made an actually shockingly half decent case for Louis being No.70! It follows to wonder⦠what happened to him after the destruction of the lab? The Teacher wouldnāt have just brought Louis back to the castle, where he could run into NoĆ© or Domi at any time. The Teacher wouldnāt have just left Louis to the Chasseurs, either, as they likely wouldāve killed him for a) being a vampire and b) being proof of Moreauās crimes. No, actually, I think something else happened.
Weāve established that Louis canāt speak. Thereās a character in VnC who only seems to be able to speak when theyāre using a voice box.
Weāve established that Louis is connected to Moreau. Thereās a character in VnC who seems to frequently appear around Moreau.
Weāve seen Louis fight before. Thereās a character in VnC who uses the same melee style slashing attacks.
Hell. Theyāre even introduced in the same chapter.
If I was going to make a guess, I think Louis becomes
Monsieur Spider.
I was expecting this section to be crack. Hell, I was expecting this whole theory to be crack.
But once you start seeing the parallels, you really canāt stop.
They clearly have similar fighting styles. Monsieur Spider seems to speaks with a voice box (all of his dialogue uses a blocky, mechanical lettering rather than normal text). Thereās the purposeful parallels in framing and composition between the two (as seen in the panels above). When NoĆ© hallucinates a man inviting him to Charlatan during the GĆ©vaudan arc, the man (sitting in a very Louislike pose, and saying something quite in line with Louisās philosophy as a child) has hornsā just like Monsieur Spider.
Yāknow who else is associated with horns in VnC? Dominique, who wears them during the Bal MasquĆ©. Dominique, Louisās twin sister.
Of course, thereās a problem with this theory. Monsieur Spider doesnāt seem to like NoĆ© very much. As a matter of fact, he seems very interested in killing NoĆ©. Heās angry when NoĆ© gets in his way at the Bal MasquĆ© and seems genuinely upset when Ruthven fails to murder NoĆ© in the cafe. This doesnāt seem in character for Louis, does it?
But look a little closer, and youāll start to see it.
Monsieur Spider refuses to call NoĆ© by his name when he tells Ruthven about his interruption at the Bal MasquĆ©, despite almost definitely knowing it. In fact, he flinches when Ruthven says NoĆ©ās name. He seems almost unnecessarily emotional whenever NoĆ© is thrown into the equation, especially when compared to the cold and blank way he discusses Moreau. He has to desperately hold himself back from interacting with NoĆ© when he helps Moreau escape from the lab.
Whenever Monsieur Spider shows emotion, itās always because of NoĆ©.
Now that sounds very in line with the Louis we know.
I think itās very likely that Louis, just like our other reincarnated boy wonder Mikhail, has some level of amnesia when it comes to the past (specifically when it comes to how he died). Itās possible that his memories were damaged by his head getting chopped off (along with the whole reincarnation thing), or maybe the Teacher messed with his memories on purpose. Either way, I donāt think Louis remembers any specifics about NoĆ© and Dominique (and if he does, theyāre probably buried very deep under layers of suffering and hatred). All he knows is that he feels something when heās around NoĆ©, and he desperately wants to get rid of that feeling.
Hence the whole killing NoƩ thing.
And with that, I think our timeline is complete! Louis died and was brought back by the Teacher, who took him to Moreauās lab along with Lunaās blood and the Books of Vanitas. Louis then spent some time as Teacherās observer in the lab as No.70, and escaped from the lab with Moreau after the Teacherās experiment reached its conclusion and Vanitas and Mikhail were saved by Luna. Louis then likely stayed with Moreau, and eventually became Monsieur Spider.
The Storytelling Angle
Whoof. I feel like thereās some very stronk proof here. But if you need a lil more evidence to convince you that these three very different seeming characters are actually one and the same, this section is for you.
First and foremostā¦. Mochijun has actually done something somewhat similar to this before (albeit in a way more obvious fashion) in Pandora Hearts.
When Oz comes back from the Abyss in Book 1, he and the readers both believe that only a short amount of time has passed since he was thrown into the Abyss. Mochijun capitalizes on this by introducing the readers to Raven, a character with a striking resemblance to Ozās childhood friend Gilbert, but who is established as a different character both age and personality wise to build up to the big reveal. A few chapters later we get the emotional reveal that Raven is indeed Gilbert, and ten years have gone by.
I canāt help but feel like something similar is happening with NoĆ© and Louis in VnC, just in a very different way. One of the most obvious clues as to Raven being Gilbert in PH (besides his physical appearance) was his strangely intense attachment to Oz, despite seeming to have only met him a few days ago. We see something very similar going on with Monsieur Spider when it comes to NoĆ© (just in a very negative sense of āintense attachmentā rather than a positive one).
In addition to this, and focusing more on VnC as a story⦠I canāt help but feel like Louis being alive would throw an absolutely delightful wrecking ball into the story.
Even though a lot of insane batshit crazy stuff has gone down during the Exposition Universalle arc, I canāt help but feel like after itās all over, our characters will genuinely come out of it as stronger people with stronger relationships with each other (and with themselves @/ Dominique).
NoĆ© and Vanitas have withstood the ultimate test of their friendship, culminating in whatās basically their equivalent of a love confession (and Vanitas sobbing into NoĆ©ās chest, and NoĆ© finally bloodying his hands to protect Vanitas, and them both desperately trying to save each otherās lives but refusing to abandon each other, andā). Dominique and Vanitas, Dominique and Jeanne, Dominique and NoĆ©, and Jeanne and NoĆ© all have some great moments where they rely on each other, learn from each other, and save each other while facing off against Mikhail.
Dominique in particular has absolutely transformed throughout the arc, finally starting to deal with her repressed self hatred and her intense survivorās guilt. Hell, Iām actually able to picture Dominique confessing her love to NoĆ© with a smile on her face, telling him she knows he doesnāt feel that way about her, and accepting that this doesnāt mean sheās inferior to Jeanne (or Vanitas). It feels like like Domi is truly on the road to becoming the best version of herself and sheās absolutely stunning and beautiful and Jeanneās in love with her and so am I.
But this is Mochijun weāre talking about. Mochijun, queen of suffering and angst.
Wouldnāt it just be perfectly in line with her writing style if, in this moment where it seems like Dominique has truly grown and become stronger, all of it came crashing down with the reveal that Louis isnāt actually dead?
Wouldnāt it be fantastically painful if, in this moment where Vanitas and NoĆ© seem to be connecting more than ever, their bond growing stronger than ever⦠Louis came and threw a wrench in it?
The End (for now)
And with that I think itās high time we wrap it all up!!
Before we get to the very end of this post I do want to mentionā thereās actually a solid bit more I want to talk about when it comes to this theory, but this post is already way longer than I wanted it to be. So!! There may or may not be a part two coming in the future. I will try my absolute best to get part 2 out⦠uhh⦠in the nextā¦. uhh⦠increment of time or so!!
As always, please take this theory with a massive massive grain of salt. There is a compelling case out there for Monsieur Spider being Johann. While I do not consider the anime canon to the manga, itās extremely likely that the anime version of Monsieur Spider is indeed Johann (which bodes quite ill for this theory). I do still have a lot of faith in the evidence Iāve presented but the simple fact that Johann Spider is (90% likely to be) canon in the anime knocks the wind out of my sails a bit. This post has a Lot of speculation and itās very very possible that Iām completely wrong on all accounts here!
Thank you so much for reading this theory/ meta/ analysis/ insane rambling thing!
Fun Fact
murr sus
I noticied that, in the anime, Murr is already here when Domi, Louis and NoƩ are little kid (ex: when NoƩ drink the twins blood for the firs
No. 70 is (maybe possibly) Louisette
Back when chapter 48 was first released, I remember a theory going around the vnc community about No.70 being Astolfoās younger sister. And, just like the whole āDante is Ruthvenās sonā thing, I remember sorta just going ānahhh No.70 is prolly just another chasseur we havenāt met yetā. But the other day I was rereading the chapter, and something just clicked for me. Something started to make sense about it.
Letās start from the beginning.
[but also before we do that, one PSA: throughout this analysis I will be referring to Astolfoās younger sister as Louisette! This is a fanon name Iām using partially for convenience and partially because Iāve referred to her as Louisette so often I frequently convince myself itās canon. With that, on with the theory!]
Way back during the GĆ©vaudan Arc, I wrote a short analysis of Roland and Astolfoās relationship (I would link it but I genuinely cannot find my own posts). I had a lot of faith in it at the time, but then chapter 46.5 came out and my meta got both its kneecaps shattered. I had thought that Astolfo hated Roland for arriving on scene too late to save Louisette, and believed this Roland- hatred was a coping mechanism for Astolfoās own grief and intense guilt. But in Chapter 46.5, it turns out Astolfo once wholeheartedly admired Roland and saw him as a god. Huh?
Suffice to say, I was very confused when 46.5 came out. How could Astolfo go from such passionate admiration for Roland to completely despising the man? How could Astolfo go from the happy looking child we see in Georgesā memories to the crazed, guilt- ridden killer of the GĆ©vaudan Arc? Wellā¦
What if Louisette didnāt die?
When thinking about the vampire incident, Astolfo says āMy sister had stopped crying. Little by little, I felt the warmth leaving her hand.ā This line is definitely written to make it sound like Astolfoās holding the hand of a corpse. But what if Roland had actually arrived just in time? What if the magical technology of the Chasseurs saved Louisette from the brink of death? They have drugs that make them powerful enough to compete with vampires and world formula Geiger counters, maybe they also have things like adrenaline and blood transfusions and CPR.
Louisette living through the near death experience would perfectly explain Astolfoās initial admiration of Roland. During that same flashback from before, kid Astolfo tells Roland that he doesnāt care what happens to himā he just wants Roland to save his sister. If Roland had managed to do so? He wouldāve instantly skyrocketed past god as a deity in the kidās mind. Astolfo wouldnāt just have respected Roland, he wouldāve worshipped him. Louisette living would perfectly explain his huge smile and complete worship of Roland so soon after the vampire incident.
And Louisette living would also explain Astolfoās downward spiral after this brief period of happiness.
What if, after a few months or even years of relative peace with the Chasseurs, something strange happened? What if, one day, Louisette disappeared?
Iāve always found this one panel from Chapter 47 a bit strange. During a flashback, Roland warns a young Mikhail about the āscary mazeā under the chasseur compound. Heās smiling, but thereās something strained, maybe even upset, behind it.
Maybe Louisette disappeared in this same areaā the area Moreau coincidentally describes as the āperfect spotāā and the Chasseurs assumed sheād wandered into the maze and been unable to find her way out. This could explain Rolandās slightly strange expression; along with why Roland ended up in this section of the compound in the first place and how Olivier was able to find Roland despite his typical inability to figure out where the guyās gone.
This disappearance might explain Astolfoās complete 180 when it comes to Roland. Maybe the things Astolfo constantly criticizes Roland for (heās childish, heās a a fool, he doesnāt have a work ethic) somehow led to Louisette disappearing on Rolandās watch. Astolfoās god failed to protect his sisterā his god failed him.
So, at this point in our strange game of connect the dots, Louisetteās been nabbed by Moreau. What makes me think sheās No.70 specifically?
Back during the flashback in the GĆ©vaudan arc, Astolfo remembers that his sister had stopped crying. In context, this serves as an implication that sheās dying, too weak to even cry. But what if Louisette stopped crying because sheād literally lost the ability to speak? What if, like No.70, she was mute?
While speaking to Mikhail during the chapter 48 flashback, a young Vanitas wonders if something so horrible had happened to No.70 in the past that theyād lost the ability to speak (implying No.70 has been mute the whole time theyāve been at the lab). The ordeal that the Granatum family went through sounds like exactly the type of thing that might provoke this kind of reaction. Vanitas notably avoids using pronouns when referring to No.70, purposefully not telling the audience their gender. We even see this similar sort of black mist screen tone during Astolfoās flashback and Vanitasās musings on No.70 (although I will admit that last one is barely even evidence ;;._.).
So! I think itās possible Louisette survived her ordeal at the hands of the vampires, was kidnapped by Moreau while in the Chasseur compound, and became the mute No.70 we see in Mikhailās memories.
Iām not really sure where Louisetteās story might have gone from there. Had the Chasseurs found her wandering the lab, they likely wouldāve killed her to cover up Moreauās experiments. This could be a fascinating way to potentially change Astolfoās feelings towards the faction and/ or turn Roland completely against the Chasseurs in the future.
I also think Monsieur Spider Louisette would be cool as hell but this just seems insanely unlikely and since there are already like fifteen different characters I think Monsieur Spider could be im gonna leave that theory on the floor where it belongs
In Conclusion,
Thank you so much for reading this rather messy vnc analysis!!
This whole post is basically āIāve connected the two dots/ you havenāt connected shitā taken to its breaking point, and despite liking this theory Iām still pretty sure Iām wrong here. Every single point Iāve brought up in this post has a very logical (and much more Occamās Razor- friendly) alternate explanationā Astolfo could just be grinning in Georgesā memories because heās training to kill vampires with the dude who killed the vampire responsible for his familyās death, Astolfo could despise Roland because he learned Roland didnāt believe all vampires should be eradicated, Roland could be haunting Moreauās āperfect spotā because he remembers other unnamed orphans disappearing from the area.
(not to mention about a month after I initially wrote this theory I came up with a new theory on No.70ās identity that I like way better; link at the bottom of this post)
So!! As always, please take everything here with a massive grain of salt. Hope you enjoyed and see you in the next one!
Fun Fact
Throughout VnC, Astolfo has acted as a foil to Vanitas. Just like NoĆ© says in chapter 45, they couldāve easily been in reverse positions in life if not for the tiny butterfly-effect style changes that made Moreau choose Vanitas and not Astolfo to be his 69th test subject.
As children, Vanitas and Astolfo both watched at least one of their parents get killed by vampires, leading to an intense hatred towards the whole species. They were both trainee chasseurs, they were both highly protective older brothers, and they were both genuinely good people who fell prey to a truly horrifying situation due in large part to their own kindness and desire to help and protect others. They both trust Roland a surprising amount despite hating him, carry around a lot of guilt and hatred, and believe that theyāre directly responsible for their parentsā deaths.
And, well. If Louisette survived the vampire incident, then disappeared in the catacombs⦠this would just add yet another branch to the comparison treeā Astolfo and Vanitas both fully believed that their younger sibling was dead, when in fact said siblings were kept alive by some dubious third party.
Fun Fact #2
i ramble on a lot, but my only true criteria for whether a character is no.70 or not is them having the letters L O U I and S in their name. in my next post i will talk about how Jeanneās adoptive mom louise is actually no.70ā
āI havenāt written any crack theories in a while,ā I said to myself. This is what my brain responded with. And slowly, somehow, this idea t
Your theory about Louis being n70 and monsieur Spider is awesome. But can you tell us more about the theory of n70 being Astolfo's sister? And about all it could imply?
Howdy; thanks for the ask! I actually have a post in the works about Louisette possibly being No.70! Itās pretty much complete,itās just been rotting in drafts for a while. Iāll try to complete it sometime and will link it here in an edit once itās up.
Hereās the TLDR versionā¦
Louisette may not have actually died the day Roland saved Astolfoā itās possible the Chasseurs had the medical technology necessary to save her
When Roland first approached Mikhail in the catacombs he had a very odd smile on his face, and for some reason he was patrolling the area Moreau later described as the āperfect spotā despite being injured. Itās almost as if some other children had gone missing in this area and Roland had noticed.
Louisette disappearing one day would perfectly explain Astolfoās feelings towards Roland taking a complete 180ā his god failed to protect his sister.
Astolfo states that Louisette had stopped crying after being fed on by the vampires. This could just mean she was too weak to cry, but it could also mean that Louisette had gone muteā just like No.70
Vanitas purposefully never gives an indication of what No.70ās gender is
Thatās the basic gist of the theory! Please take it with a grain of salt as there are a lot of holes in it ;;;._.
The main reason I havenāt posted this theory yet is because I canāt really think of a way Louisetteās story would wrap up beyond āshe gets found and killed by the Chasseurs, and Roland and Astolfo keep thinking she died in the catacombsā. However, the idea that she could be Monsieur Spider is actually starting to grow on meā¦.. (this is, rather concerningly, only like two thirds a joke)
important side note: im completely blanking on whether Louisette is the canon or fanon name for Astolfoās sister. i actually cannot remember which means itās probably fanon, so please take the name with a grain of salt too!
Edit: hereās the full theory!
Back when chapter 48 was first released, I remember a theory going around the vnc community about No.70 being Astolfoās younger sister. And,
If Moreau had kinapped Louisette, that also explains why Roland doesn't do anything against Astolfo's atttude toward him, why he accepts the hate toward him (he feels guilty)and why he seems so destroyed in the comic page where he realized Mikhail's disparition. Because it isn't the first kid who vanished while Roland was not watching. That's also explain why he wanted to kill Moreau too. Maybe he understood what happened to Louisette (and not only her). But if Louisette is 70, where is she now?
Hiya, thanks for the ask! I agree with yaā if Louisette was no.70, I do think Roland could still be carrying some sort of guilt over what happened to her around. I donāt think his lack of reaction to Astolfoās hatred has anything to do with that, though. Roland doesnāt seem like the type who doubts himself or tends towards self blameā his absolute faith in his god gives him absolute faith in himself. If he made a mistake, he would likely accept that the mistake was somehow in Godās plan and resolve to do better next time (which could lead to him patrolling the area where Louisette disappeared, even while injured). He doesnāt really seem like the type for self flagellation.
If I had to make a guess, it seems like Roland has decided that the best way to approach Astolfoās hatred is by not rising to the bait and allowing it to continue (for the time being, at least). In my initial post on Astolfo and Roland (still sadly lost to the chaos of my tumblr timeline lmao) I wrote that Roland likely understands that Astolfoās intense hatred for him is (at least partially) a way for Astolfo to cope with his own self- hatred and guilt.
While my perspective on their relationship has changed a lot since then, I do think this is still somewhat true. When asked about his attachment to Vanitas in chapter 44, Roland states that āā¦it feels as though, the moment I take my eyes of him, heāll shatter to pieces.ā I canāt help but think Rolandās feelings towards Astolfo are similar (even if he approaches the two in very different ways).
Moving on to Louisette!
If Louisette was No.70, where is she nowā¦. that is indeed the question!! I think Louisetteās current status relies pretty much entirely on what happened to her when Luna attacked the lab. There are four main options I can think of hereā 1) Louisette died in the lab prior to Lunaās arrival; 2) Louisette escaped from the lab on her own; 3) Louisette was found in the lab after Lunaās attack; or 4) Moreau took Louisette with him when he escaped from the lab.
Letās look into each option in greater detail and see if we can come up with some potential routes to where a No.70 Louisette might be in the present.
Option 1: Louisette died in the lab.
I think this is the least likely option at the moment. While itās definitely possible, and would make sense considering the sheer number of kids Moreau has killed in his twisted experiments, I donāt think it makes sense from a storytelling perspective when thereās a much more impactful way of killing Louisette in the same time frame, which weāll get into with Option 3.
Option 2: Louisette escaped from the lab on her own.
Option 2 slides in at a close second for least likely option. Luna states that Vanitas would have been able to escape from the lab quite easily, meaning if Louisette received some level of Chasseur training at some point she may have been able to as well, but yeah, this one doesnāt seem likely.
Option 3: Louisette was found by the Chasseurs after Lunaās attack.
Following this discovery, the Chasseurs likely killed Louisette to bury all evidence of Moreauās wrongdoing. This seems like the most likely outcome to me. Louisette dies, freeing up the role of Monsieur Spider for Johann (or even Louis); and the potential fallout this could have for Roland and Astolfo once they realize what happened is absolutely delightful. Roland is already losing his faith in the Chasseurs as an organization, and learning that they covered up Louisetteās death could be enough to push him over the edge.
However, thereās an alternate route this option could take: what if the Chasseurs, realizing Louisette was mute and unable to spill any secrets, allowed the kid to live? I find this potential outcome absolutely twisted (and therefore like it a lot)ā Louisette lives, but is mentally broken and forever unable to tell anyone what happened to her.
Option 4: Moreau took Louisette with him when he escaped from the lab.
This one, this one⦠this one is a wild card. Itās possible Moreau just speedily retreated from the lab after Luna caused their commotion. But from what we know about the guy, this doesnāt seem like his styleā he just lost his two precious test subjects and Lunaās books in a single night; losing a third valuable test subject would be absolutely cataclysmic. If there was any chance of taking No.70 with him during his escape, Moreau would have absolutely snatched the opportunity. So I think thereās a definite possibility that [if Louisette was indeed No.70] Moreau took her with him during his escape.
So where would this leave Louisette?
Itās possible she died in a future experiment, or grew up into one of those hooded Moreau Monsters we see in the Hunters of the Dark arc. Or maybe⦠well⦠Monsieur Spider Louisette anyoneā
the end (for now)
Those are all of my thoughts on where a potential No.70 Louisette could be in the present era of VnC. Thanks for reading this rambling analysis- of- a- theory type thing and please take everything here with a grain of salt. At this point, I donāt think this even counts as analysis of the source material, this is just me thinking about the potential repercussions of a potential theory that I donāt even have much faith in anymore. And! Itās a lot of fun. So thanks again for the ask!

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FARMASİ'NİN 70. YILINA ĆZELYEPYENİ BİR PARFĆM
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70 yıllık mirasın unutulmaz kokusunu teninizde taÅıyın. Limon notalarının uzun süre kalıcılıÄı, hafızanıza yer edecek erkeksi bir iz bırakır. Odunsu & Aromatik Ćst Notalar: Limon, Greyfurt, YeÅil Elma Orta Notalar: Hindistan Cevizi, Süsen Kƶkü, Sedir AÄacı Dip Notalar: Tonka Fasülyesi, Kehribar, Misk For Men Parfum