#mumsnet

[bolding is my emphasis on the parts I consider interesting]

"Mumsnet sent its initial letter announcing it was considering legal action in July. More recently, it received a response from OpenAI with a list of questions. “They did not deny the fact that they had scraped,” she says. As of now, Mumsnet plans to continue on the litigation track; it has not yet determined whether it will file suit in the UK’s High Court or a specialized intellectual property court. (OpenAI acknowledged to WIRED that it had received and responded to the Mumsnet complaint, but did not offer comment on Mumsnet’s legal claims.)

In the meantime, Mumsnet is actively pursuing licensing arrangements with other AI companies. Roberts says that it is speaking with Google, as well as intermediary startups that have cropped up to facilitate data licensing. (Google did not respond to WIRED’s request to confirm these talks.)

“I’m quite worried about the ecosystem, where these big LLMs are allowed to march all over small publishers to build their models, and then people have less reasons to go and visit the websites,” Roberts says. “We need to come to some sort of satisfactory arrangement where people are compensated for their work.”

As Mumsnet’s content is largely user-generated, WIRED asked whether it was considering any sort of payment system for users when it does strike deals. Roberts says there is no plan at the moment, but that she would consider it if data licensing for AI became incredibly lucrative down the road."

Kiwifarms went down because of a pedophilic trans YouTuber exploited his former connections in tech and got his fans to harass the hosting company of kiwifarms (because kiwifarms had evidence of this person engaging sexually with minors) Then kiwifarms found another hosting service, and another trans woman uses his connections in tech to get the hosting pulled again. (This is a really oversimplified explanation of what happened I know but im just trying to inform people who have zero clue whats going on, id recommend looking into the situation more yourself) Whether or not you think kiwifarms is a "good" site this should concern you at least a bit

They are already on Twitter talking about how ovarit and mumsnet "need to be dealt with" and they want to take lolcow (image board populated mostly with radfems) down

Via Kate Mongomerie on twitter. It’s hard to ignore such an inappropriate-yet-red-hot Mumsnet take as “is Black Lives Matter a Trojan Horse full of trans people?”, and that’s exactly what Thingybob delivers, drawing attention to part of Black Lives Matter’s What we Believe statement.

Part of it, at least. “We make space for transgender brothers and sisters to participate and lead.” is quoted. “We build a space that affirms Black women and is free from sexism, misogyny, and environments in which men are centered.” is omitted.

I’m nowhere near qualified to adequately discuss the racism in this question and in the conversation, but I find it pretty fucking galling to suggest that BLM has some ulterior motive in promoting trans rights, as if their stated goal of eliminating racism and state violence against Black people isn’t enough.

In fairness to Mumsnet, that it’s a Trojan Horse is pretty much rejected, but that doesn’t stop them from opining on BLM in general and their support of trans people (especially Black trans women) in specific, with comments such as

Black Lives Matter is no more a Trojan horse than Feminism is. Like feminism, though, it has become infected with a parasite. A parasite that piggy-backs intersectionality and subverts the whole movement from within.

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I support BLM, but I guess now in much the same way I support Labour. I'd prefer an alternative that was not misogynistic but there does not seem to be one.

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They have fallen into the trap of identity politics and intersectionality like many other groups, organisations and movements, which only seems to lead to a downward spiral. It's up to them to fix it or not.

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Many of the tactics are the same. You MUST support trans rights or you are evil. You MUST support BLM and cannot criticise mass protests.

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Do you mean it is a Trojan horse or that it is Troy, being infiltrated by a horse filled with antifa and TRA types as well as odds and sods of SJWs?

and honestly it just keeps going. A lot of dubious views of BLM from the outside, by people who cannot seem to understand—or simply refuse to understand—that many cis people are capable of supporting trans people of their own free will.

Like I said, I’m not really qualified to discuss the racism in this, but I’ll leave you with this gem of wilful ignorance: