What if we ban Mumsnet? That would be far better for the wellbeing of British children than constantly banning kids from both physical and digital spaces and robbing all of us of our privacy.

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What if we ban Mumsnet? That would be far better for the wellbeing of British children than constantly banning kids from both physical and digital spaces and robbing all of us of our privacy.

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Mumsnet are taking legal action against OpenAI
[bolding is my emphasis on the parts I consider interesting]
"Mumsnet sent its initial letter announcing it was considering legal action in July. More recently, it received a response from OpenAI with a list of questions. “They did not deny the fact that they had scraped,” she says. As of now, Mumsnet plans to continue on the litigation track; it has not yet determined whether it will file suit in the UK’s High Court or a specialized intellectual property court. (OpenAI acknowledged to WIRED that it had received and responded to the Mumsnet complaint, but did not offer comment on Mumsnet’s legal claims.)
In the meantime, Mumsnet is actively pursuing licensing arrangements with other AI companies. Roberts says that it is speaking with Google, as well as intermediary startups that have cropped up to facilitate data licensing. (Google did not respond to WIRED’s request to confirm these talks.)
“I’m quite worried about the ecosystem, where these big LLMs are allowed to march all over small publishers to build their models, and then people have less reasons to go and visit the websites,” Roberts says. “We need to come to some sort of satisfactory arrangement where people are compensated for their work.”
As Mumsnet’s content is largely user-generated, WIRED asked whether it was considering any sort of payment system for users when it does strike deals. Roberts says there is no plan at the moment, but that she would consider it if data licensing for AI became incredibly lucrative down the road."
At first I thought, 'good for them, taking on AI', but the article indicates they're trying to sell their user data to other AI companies anyway so it's legit all about OpenAI going back on their business deal, which is a bit gross. Still, it could set a useful precedent, if successful.
I love how mumsnet is almost always automatically dismissed for virtually no other reasons I can deduce than because 1. They’re mothers 2. They’re predominantly middle aged afiak 3. They’re women 4. Combination of all of those factors
“Objectivity,” trans coverage, and one bit of media gossip I have been unable to get into any other piece.
“… Ian Katz — formerly the deputy editor of the Guardian, then the editor of BBC’s Newsnight, now head of programming for Channel 4 — was married to Justine Roberts, the founder of Mumsnet. It’s like finding out that the CEO of McDonald’s is married to heart disease; like finding out that Joe Camel goes home every night to a talking tumor. It makes sense of everything in the worst possible way.”
So idk how many of you are aware of this but like not a lot of people are talking about it (to my knowledge) and I think its significant:
Kiwifarms went down because of a pedophilic trans YouTuber exploited his former connections in tech and got his fans to harass the hosting company of kiwifarms (because kiwifarms had evidence of this person engaging sexually with minors) Then kiwifarms found another hosting service, and another trans woman uses his connections in tech to get the hosting pulled again. (This is a really oversimplified explanation of what happened I know but im just trying to inform people who have zero clue whats going on, id recommend looking into the situation more yourself) Whether or not you think kiwifarms is a "good" site this should concern you at least a bit
They are already on Twitter talking about how ovarit and mumsnet "need to be dealt with" and they want to take lolcow (image board populated mostly with radfems) down
How serious those threats are remains to be seen, to be honest I don't keep up with this THAT much but like it's concerning how they are banding together to deplatform anyone they disagree with and perhaps more importantly has evidence of them being depraved predators

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