Looking at Asteroids in Vedic ?
Even though I use Vedic and not Tropical, as I find sidereal placements to be more accurate in my experience, both with my own chart and others, I recently got curious about asteroids ☄️
Vedic doesn’t use them, just like it doesn’t use planets beyond Saturn, but I realised that checking asteroid placements with Sidereal (whole sign) while using the classic Tropical interpretation of them is actually quite accurate.
There are different kinds of asteroids, related to love, sex, money, career, health, body, fame, mind, luck, etc., and I only looked at those I could verify through my own chart, people I know, or well-documented public figures. I was quite surprised to see how well they held up !
For my own chart, most asteroids changed signs in Sidereal but kept the same house, though for some people it’s the opposite.
Even slight changes in sign or house make a meaningful difference in interpretation, and that difference often points toward the more accurate reading.
❀ Let’s look at one of my asteroid placements. I have my Mnemosyne in Gemini in Sidereal whereas it is in Cancer in Tropical, though they are both in the same house. This asteroid is about memory, creativity and harmony. In Gemini it is about verb, words and intellect and about the ability to weave logical and complex links between disparate fragments and informations. Whereas in Cancer, it is about guarding a deep emotional sanctuary, tied to childhood and family roots which permeate every reactions to the present. My mind and memory functions with logical and complex associations and pattern connections between pieces or different fields of informations which I think people can see even in my blog. Whereas I do not have a strong emotional tie to my family roots, I acknowledge it but it doesn’t strongly influence me as I’m more about creating my own tradition and keep only what serves me. So the Gemini placement, and therefore the Sidereal chart, is more accurate for me.
I thought this gif of Shannen was very fitting with her Juno rage.. 👀
❀ In a less personal example, actress Shannen Doherty has asteroid Juno conjunct her Midheaven. In both Tropical and Sidereal it falls in Gemini, which makes her communicative, curious, drawn to stimulating partners, but the house shifts from the 9th House in Tropical to the 10th House in Sidereal.
Juno is named after the Roman goddess, queen of the gods and protector of marriage. As Jupiter’s wife, she endured his repeated infidelities and is often depicted pursuing his lovers and illegitimate children. In the 10th house, Juno pushes the native to seek a partner connected to their career or public life, especially going for a partner who is ambitious and visible. Whereas in 9th house, it is more about seeking intellectual explorations, learning, travels in the relations. Shannen often went for men she met through her career and in this example she went for Rick Salomon, an ambitious American film producer whom she married. So the Juno in 10th house in Sidereal is more accurate in her case.
Shannen Doherty left her husband Rick Salomon after he released a sex tape with heiress Paris Hilton, twelve years her junior. The humiliation played out entirely in a career-adjacent environment, again 10th house territory. She later crossed paths with Paris Hilton at a party, she assaulted her physically and wrote insults on her car. That Juno-like rage, the wronged wife enacting revenge on the other woman, manifesting in a public, career-related context rather than through intellectual or philosophical channels as a 9th house Juno would suggest.
❀ On the other hand, Rick Salomon himself has a Sagittarius Ascendant in Tropical ruled by Jupiter, and a dominant Jupiter in both systems, recreating the Jupiter/Juno dynamic with Shannen almost literally. His Juno is in Sagittarius in both systems: adventurous, free-spirited and non-committal in love. In Tropical it sits in the 1st house, which would suggest personal devotion and loyalty, qualities he clearly didn’t embody. In Sidereal, it moves to the 2nd house, shifting the focus toward material values and financial security, which better explains his trajectory toward the heiress Paris Hilton, especially since this infidelity was also part of his ambition, as this sex tape made him internationally famous and successful in his later films as a producer which is a reflection of his Jupiter like ambition and his Juno placement in Sagittarius 2nd House in Sidereal.
Paris Hilton, for her part, described the release of the famous sex tape filmed by Rick Salomon as a rape: it came out without her consent, and she experienced it very badly just like most Zeus/Jupiter’s lover experienced their relationship with him. Indeed Jupiter was known to often rape or trick his lover and this sex tape is a symbolic rape by a Jupiter dominant man.
I never looked before at asteroids as I found their interpretation with Tropical placements quite off, now I realise that the interpretation of how they work weren’t wrong but that I had to look at them differently, through the Sidereal lens. Either way, I find it fascinating to see how these small bodies can add another layer of precision to a chart and how the sidereal lens often sharpens what tropical leaves slightly blurred or even quite off. I’ll definitely keep an eye on them !
For those using Vedic, do you check asteroids too ? ✨