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Thief (1981)
director: Michael Mann
Refineries in the movies? "Heat" (Michael Mann) is number one.
You want some music with that? Here it is...
Elliot Goldenthal's soundtrack for "Heat" (Michael Mann).
heat 1995; collateral 2004; miami vice 2006 / line from 2003 draft of collateral 2004 script / ‘one of these mornings’ by moby (miami vice ost)

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Thief, by Michael Mann (1981)
He was also recollecting how Dino De Laurentiis strong-armed him into a title he didn't want, and while I'm sure Red Dragon would have been preferable, I actually think Manhunter is great. Because it makes me think of Robert Ardrey and all those other guys who were anthropologically in vogue back in the sixties. These days, probably bunk at worst, gauche at best. But how western scientists/popular writers in the postwar period were constructing a narrative of human origins is its own anthropological artifact, and a richly productive one.
That was a really great Q&A and I'm grateful to the audience member who filmed and uploaded it. I'm telling you, just about every single time a woman panelist/Mann fan is directing the conversation, the questions are better and less formulaic, and the insights are superior. Fat chance, but I would love for it to be the default going forward!
Of course I am dying to see how Manhunter looks given mention of the color technology involved, but more than anything I can't wait to find out what changes were made to the story structure. Which scenes were reportedly extended, what “unfortunate” lines of dialogue were excised (lol). To me the single most profound and impactful scene is the one of Will and his stepson talking to each other at the grocery store, and I'm curious to see if that's been emended at all or left untouched.
Call me a sicko, but I loved hearing him wax in layman's terms about the psychoanalytic fundamentals. And that's really as fundamental as it gets: that children like Dollarhyde who are being abused don't conceive of what's happening to them as a terrible injustice, as a wrong committed by a disturbed parent who is morally at fault. Because human children are quite literally dependent on their parents (or other caregiving adults) for survival, we have evolved psychologically to maintain an emotional connection and to be predisposed to positive regard. So when parents do awful things to their kids, the kids wind up rationalizing that the defect must lie within them, that whatever elicited the mistreatment is internal to their own condition. This cycle of shame reproduces itself, and I quote Mann with a chuckle, “from generation to generation,” occasionally to tragic, even horrific results.
It was the most fleeting aside, but I still went >:))))))) at his mention of Collateral being the first feature length Hollywood HD movie. A flyby remark with absolutely zero latent content to 99.9% of credentialed Mann Enjoyers. But they ain't seen nothin' yet.