Reading Euripides' Helen after finding out how Nolan did Menelaus and Helen dirty is a serious and urgent act of healing:
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Reading Euripides' Helen after finding out how Nolan did Menelaus and Helen dirty is a serious and urgent act of healing:

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Decided to redraw this old Menehelen art
just a little something something for valentine's day :))
Insp by @when-the-pawnn ' s post
aspect of menehelen no one sees the vision of is its "man who has lived in constant chaos and terror for his entire youth, only recently got into a position of any sort of peace and stability either shortly before or after getting engaged, possibly sees his wife as his sole source of said stability, and who desperately wants to be loving and noble and break the cycle but has no fucking idea what that looks like because his best example is a man who also grew up terrified and is dealing with it by squeezing everything he can get his hands on until it goes limp in his grasp x woman who was looked at as an object of desire since she was very young, had her innocence stolen from her, (depending on how far you think the theseus thing got) was a victim of csa, and has come to feel entirely separate from other people, she is not like humans she was born from an egg and spoken of like a rare bird and there is an impenetrable wall between her and mortals, she cannot put into words what is happening inside her and she doesn't know how to get people to understand". like i need their neuroses to have pvp turned on despite them desperately not wanting this to be so
T shirt that says “I liked menelen before ilium”

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thoughts on pre-war menelen?
they make me scream my head off and I love them
There’s the atreides taking refuge in Sparta so they could’ve met as kids or teens. (Childhood crushes!! Older siblings teasing them about it)
there’s the fact that she chooses him as her husband. Not arranged. She picks (I know it’s probably so that no one blames Tyndareus for picking the ‘wrong’ suitor but let me imagine that Helen begged her dad to let her call Menealus’ name)
I don’t think it was perfect. No marriage is perfect and I’m sure they fought and had rough patches etc etc. One child for what nine years? In a time of no birth control that could mean either struggles with infertility or child loss. There’s Menelaus having illegitimate children (but they could be after she leaves I don’t know much about them).
Despite any struggles or tensions, they do so clearly love each other. They mean everything to each other, which is why the abduction/disappearance/scandal whatever you want to call it hurts so much.
Post-Troy Menelen (stained by blood and shame)
I'm kinda proud of this one ugh : ( I should write about how I see their relation after Troy but in sumarry , it's kinda messed up. They both have some ressentement for each other. They're willing to do their best and live peacefully with each other for the rest of their life- but they both have their issues, some kind of survivor guilt for Menelaus, wich is going to get worse after he learn about Agamemnon's death, while Helen is dealing with guilt and some trauma too. They manage to overcome some of it and regain a good relation during their journey home.
Things I'm Excited/Scared For In ILIUM: The Musical:
MeneHelen. I am truly so excited to see how Jorge chooses to handle their marriage, because in a lot of versions of the story Helen chooses him out of like a hundred or so suitors. Especially since it heavily involves Odysseus and is part of why he marries Penelope.
Eris being the original Maleficent and throwing the golden apple into the crowd of gods, in which Aphrodite, Hera and Athena (Athene) all claim they're the most beautiful goddess.
Menelaos and Agamemnon rounding up all of the kings/ex suitors who vowed to protect Helen's marriage. I love a good roundup character introduction song.
Odysseus' attempt to avoid fulfilling the contract he came up with be faking insanity and Agamemnon's general jackassary by almost having Telemakhos killed.
Love In Paradise the Prequel where Paris is harassing Helen and she just wants to get back to her beloved husband. Until she's forced to marry Paris that is. Yeah, she gets the bad ending temporarily.
I have to imagine there's going to be a song where Thetis is being a mother in mourning and Achilles (Akhilleus) just doesn't know what's going on. And I will cry.
Diomedes being Athena's (Athene's) pathetic little guy that she needs to constantly help while Odysseus is left to figure things out without godly assistance. I just think it'd be an interesting addition to the dynamic if Athena (Athene) helps Odysseus way less because she believes in him more but Odysseus just thinks she favours Diomedes.
Any song that includes my favourite prophet girl Kassandra. I love her.
Iphigenia. Just ... just everything about that situation. Odysseus and Diomedes faking a marriage proposal, Agamemnon sacrificing her to Artemis, the whole shebang.
The sheer amount of polyamory Achilles (Akhilleus) is doing. Deidamia, Patroklos and Briseis? My man has game.
All of the god songs. Any time the gods intervene. The sheer amount of singing we will get from all of the gods excites me.
Teucer (Teukros) and Ajax the Greater being the brothers of all time.
Hektromakhe and their lovely son Astyanax. I'm sure they'll be a loving family that nothing bad happens to.
Patroklos' death, Hector's (Hektros') death, and the whole ordeal surrounding dragging his corpse around on a chariot to taunt his family. Like damn Achilles (Akhilleus), he had a wife and son.
The Greeks pissing Athena (Athene) the fuck off by not murdering Little Ajax after he raped Kassandra in her temple. Also, the fact that Odysseus is the one trying to convince them to follow Athena's (Athene's) orders and he fails will add some delicious angst to their whole dynamic in EPIC.
The prophecy claims that the Greeks can't win the war without Achilles (Akhilleus) or his son by Deidamia, Pyrrhos/Neoptolemos, and yes, "Neo, avenge your father kill the brother's of Hector" is a reference to him. Also Hector (Hektros) had like twenty brothers or so, so like, that's basically a genocide. So I have to assume Paris has killed Achilles (Akhilleus) before the final battle.
The sheer amount of Trojan women Agamemnon completely disrespects and the poor wife at home who deserves way better.
Andromakhe losing her entire family only to be kidnapped by Neoptolemos. Like, my girls husbands corpse was dragged all around Troy and then her son was thrown off of the city walls. She has been through enough.
MeneHelen reunion in the middle of an active battlefield. Would You Fall In Love With Me Again the prequel where Helen is hoping Menelaos will want to remarry her even after being with Paris for ten years.