Hi, puwede rin po ba ako magrant about the recent development sa PH about jan sa Pax Silica na yan?
Naghahanap lang po ako ng karamay, pero bat yung reddit ng pilipinas halos lahat ay pro?
More concerning is karamihan ng anti ay immediately tinatawag na pro-China at DDS even if yung argument is about environment and yung displacement ng mga original na may ari nung lupa?
Even more concerning is karamihan sa pro Pax Silica ay sinasabi na lahat ng progress sa sariling bansa ay kailangan ng exploitation ng natural resources. I'm so sorry pero... Sa current state ng mundo ngayon, na hindi na gumagana yung La Niña para islowdown yung rise ng temperature... Sa tingin nila ok lang mag tayo pa ng data center? Sa pilipinas pa, kung san tayo yung unang nakakaramdam ng effects ng global warming? (on a sidenote i see more and more redditors saying na dapat daw itayo para sumunod na itayo yung mga required infrastructure para mapunan yung water tas electricity needs ng data center. And thus, nabanggit nanaman yung dam na gusto nila itayo sa Sierra Madre and yung Bataan nuclear power plant both of which are really bad ideas. From an environmental standpoint.)
If i said any of these on reddit i will get roasted alive a la chat gpt.
Jokes aside, I'm sure that there are many ways na mag progress tayo sustainably. Not like this na kailangan apakan ang mga residente at mga naghahanap buhay doon. Not like this na kailangan mag deal ng permanent damage sa environment. Nakakabahala na yung makataong rason is tinatawag na DDS at pro-China propaganda (i didnt even vote marcos or duterte nung 2022 they're obviously trouble even way back then!!!). Im so sorry, like. Apparently the argument that it will disrupt the ecosystem and everyone around it is a pro-DDS pro-China argument? I can't help but remember yung fiasco nung pandemic dito -> (https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/).
Reuters identified at least 300 accounts on X, formerly Twitter, that matched descriptions shared by former U.S. military officials familiar with the Philippines operation. Almost all were created in the summer of 2020 and centered on the slogan #Chinaangvirus – Tagalog for China is the virus.
“We weren’t looking at this from a public health perspective,” said a senior military officer involved in the program. “We were looking at how we could drag China through the mud.”
I'm not sure if that is what is happening again this time, but instead of twitter, reddit naman.
Im sorry I know i sound like a conspiracist right now. I just have nowhere to say this. Everyone I know IRL is too focused sa politics to see that the effects of this data center will impact everyone no matter which side they're on. Maliban lang siguro kung mayaman ka at puwede ka umalis ng PH anytime to escape whatever fresh hell this brings
i hope you don't think im 'bobo' or 'wuhan spy' or dds for this because i got those insults before for saying these things...
Hanla ang haba na thank you for your time po 😭✌🏼
I have not used reddit for years outside of video game and tech issues pero once upon a time, especially some seven or eight years ago, frequent ako sa r/Philippines at honestly and suspicious ng behavior about that kasi from my past experience usually mga anti-Duterte AND anti-Marcos yung mga nakikisalamuha ko way back when but it is also reddit and it's been almost a decade kaya hindi din ako sure ngayon. Sounds like hell either way, psyop o hindi, and especially being called a "wuhan spy" for just daring to be critical of the United States-backed project on Philippine territory which is absurd!!! Unfortunately, I definitely wouldn't be surprised din kung isang weird na operation din yung nangyayari dun considering what we've seen so far.
Sa FB timeline ko it's at least not as bad tapos mas madami akong nakikita dun na anti-Pax or at least critical sa Pax without any major pushback na "pro-Duterte/pro-China" if you are even sa mga news articles at mga posts that have anything to do with the Philippines at AI pero of course, that's my algorithm at hindi siya reflective sa reality for most people probably. I also lost access to twitter long ago kaya hindi din ako sure sa state of things dun and I just got my insta recently so I can't confirm that one either.
I think yung problema din ng mga ibang tao [na sincere and definitely not a psyop by the US or Chinese government] is definitely yung black and white thinking which has been frustrating to me since maybe I was a kid. If hindi ka pro-this, you're definitely pro-that when hindi naman dapat ganun ang dapat na pag-iisip when it comes to politics. It's anti-intellectual and disingenuous talaga like I said before. As people from a country that's been colonized and dominated for our entire state's existence and now is stuck between two imperial powers, kailangan nating maging matalino and careful in handling these topics kasi the reality is we need to be critical of these richer countries regardless of who you think is more evil kasi kahit sino yung nasa taas, tayo pa rin yung talo. We need to look out for each other more than we look out for these people and especially we need to look out for the indigenous groups of our country which often gets left behind sa mga discussion regarding politics, and especially with Pax Silica threatening the livelihoods ng mga indigenous Aeta people sa area.
Ang "progress" na pinopromote ng Pax Silica also feels hollow and empty when the poorest members of our society had not at benefited from this "progress" for literal years and has in fact caused the Filipino workers who trained AI to lose their own jobs and now threatens the livelihood of people working in different sectors and specifically women in the workforce besides all the environmental impact na well documented now that's definitely not helping yung worsening climate sa bansa that's caused so much property damage and has taken so many lives. It's also appalling na ngayon lang nag-dedemand at nag-aayos yung mga supporters ng "progress" na to ng infrastructure natin for water and electricity just because of an AI data center? What about the actual human people na nangangailangan ng water at electricity? You didn't care about them until you could build an AI data center in their land???
There should be and there are ways to progress our industries and technology without literally destroying the lives of so many people, pero walang pasensya mga kompanya to do it properly and would rather rush on ahead bago pa gumawa ng mga batas para iregulate yung new tech ng AI and it's so obvious that it's all about money. That's why for years walang progress in green energy dahil walang pakialam yung mga oil companies and now we're seeing it here with tech companies at AI. People want to hop on the trend so fast para mas yumaman sila all the while AI is an economic bubble and has already caused a stock market crash that destroyed the lives of many people in the past month in South Korea after nagcrash yung confidence for AI chips that makes up most of the sales from Samsung and SK Hynix na ngayon lang nag-rerecover and even then it's still unstable. I don't even mean na gen AI would just fade forever once the bubble bursts, realistically speaking, pero people are putting too much in one basket and it's going make everything fall apart and especially since walang proper regulations at walang pakialam yung mga investors sa realistic outcomes ng AI, puro postives lang yung focus nila. I doubt most of these people even understand how LLMs or other machine learning models work or how they acquire yung training data at yung true environmental cost ng usage ng generative models.
Anyway, don't worry about sa length ng rant and I hope you find solidarity sa mga Pax Silica critics/haters dito sa tumblr if wala kang mahanap sa reddit or in other places. Let's all hate Pax Silica together!