#lost eden

Subject: Why are the Diabolik Lovers brothers not destroying the world (part 2 from yesterday)

I was re-reading Laito's route to see if I can get somewhat of an answer of why the diabolik Lovers brothers are able to keep their human feelings without the destruction of the demon world (+Eden) and one way to do that is to simply return the powers to the world tree. This was in Laito's Lost Eden ending and honestly who needs those powers anyways. Only Karl Heinz can control them anyways and it was stated in the ending that "the only individual who can wield those powers is Karl" so I think it's better for the diaboys to return those powers.

I have now finished re-reading Kanato's route and honestly it cleared up a lot of confusion. In Kanato's Lost Eden ending it says this in the monologue: "The World Tree which had passed down its powers to revive us, withered once more, making it impossible, to enter the Demon World. Therefore, we are currently living all living together, here in the human world" that means the Demon World doesn't have to collapse if Adam and Eve live in the human world (dialovers-translations, Diabolik Lovers Lost Eden Kanato Vampire Ending). It also doesn't have to collapse if Adam is able to control his emotions when he enters the Demon World but with the help of the Sakamaki brothers, Mukami brothers, and Tsukinami brothers this can make managing both worlds easier. This helped me better understand the other endings too because some of them left on a cliffhanger like Ayato's ending where he says along the line of "I am not sure but I will find a way to restore Eden+The Demon World" and it didn't give much information on how to get that solution. After exploring other routes and endings suddenly Lost Eden makes sense. Here is a helpful outline of main plot points in Lost Eden (of course there are still writing inconsistencies but we can just pretend that different worlds have different rules like Kanato controlling fire in some worlds but not others):

-Karl Heinz was able to numb his emotions and feelings because Cordelia wasn't able to give him human feelings (Karl Heinz mentioned in Ayato's More,Blood route that Cordelia's feelings sadly couldn't hold him and that's probably because she herself is a demon and so he wanted her heart to be placed in a human).

-This allowed him to control his powers and live in the Demon World just fine. Reiji said that he was the only being that could transcend to being a god and that he just can't numb his feelings.

-Karl Heinz has created 184 worlds and will continue to make many more even after he dies. He has been shown to travel in pocket dimensions and even the afterlife (shown in Laitos' More,Blood manga). No other character has been able to transcend to being a god (more like a devil) and Reiji even said that it wasn't possible for anybody else to do that.

-He created the Adam and Eve plan to have a dialover awaken their feelings for a human and Eve essentially chooses who inherits the power. They awaken their feelings by sucking Eve's blood and eventually Eve can't live without them either. He wants them to lose control of their powers to end the demon world because he doesn't like the twisted nature of demons. He wants them to have offspring because he wants demons that are not immortal and don't have demon nature. They also would be immune to endzeit which is currently a disease that's trying to wipe out demons (already wiped out the founders to near extinction) and Eve's blood actually has the cure for it! Shin also has an immunity to endzeit which I thought was a pretty cool lore drop

-If the person who has the power of the world tree loses control of their emotions in the demon world all citizens of the demon world will perish and the whole world will collapse which is what Karl Heinz wanted. He just wanted Adam and Eve to be left.

-All of the Diabolik Lovers brothers can prevent the demon world from ending and still get a good ending where everybody lives if Adam and Eve live in the human world (Kanato's ending Lost Eden). That's why we see them survive in the other endings and Yui doesn't have to end up alone with one of the Diabolik Lovers brothers.

-They can still visit the Demon World but this might cause it to crumble because they can't get ride of their human feelings. They have to be calm and try to not show a lot of emotion. Also, another important note is that even though the diabrothers learn human feelings that doesn't mean they aren't capable of still having demonic thinking. They can still be sadistic and cruel! If pushed far enough I would even say they can be just as sadistic as before but they can never let go of Yui.

-On another note that means if we still want to fantasize about Yui going into harem ending we can but the person who inherits the power either has to return it to the tree or live in the human world.

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Translated by @dialovers-translations

Source: Lost Eden Gentei Tokuten Drama CD "Searching for Socks in the Sakamaki Manor ~Pandora's box must remain closed~"

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Omg, Subaru is so innocent sometimes (it's his magazine).

Please no reposting onto other sites, ask me before translating this into another language too! Scans provided by: @yuikomorii​

For those who don’t know, basically Karheinz dies and gives his ‘Demon King’ powers to whoever you pick to romance. The bad thing about this is that Laito wants NOTHING to do with Karlheinz or his powers; he’d rather not remember that he was related to that man. 

Something I like to think of is that when Laito doesn’t want to acknowledge something uncomfortable, he just stuffs it in a glass jar in his mind and closes the lid as tight as possible. What this results in is something that would normally be just the tiniest slip of those emotions becomes a giant explosion of everything that was pushed down. When this man breaks, he breaks HARD.

This is shown well in Dark Fate when he learns what Karlheinz did (the fact that everything — his and his family’s trauma — was an experiment and carefully planned). But I’ve already made a post about Laito’s crashout and this is about Lost Eden.

ANYWAYS, (I’m summarizing and skipping things just to get my point across, so I’d suggest reading the translations if you want the full story) Laito ends up making a deal with Kino to kill his brothers. The thought process is that ‘oh, my brothers don’t care for me so this should be fine’ or something similar.

This thought process is QUICKLY proven incorrect by Ayato when the two are facing off. It’s Laito vs Ayato, Laito trying to kill Ayato. Ayato doesn’t fight back besides defending himself, and he basically yells at Laito about how MUCH he and the rest of the brothers actually do care for and worry about him. Ever since Laito got Karlheinz’s powers, he was more irritable and worse mentally than before, and the others RECOGNIZED that. And they were worried for their brother.

This realization kinda shell-shocks Laito, enough to not kill his brothers. This part makes me so sick (in the best way) because it’s basically just Ayato shaking Laito, being like “Yes, dumbass, we’re worried sick about you because we fucking care!” And Laito’s just “…you guys… care…?”

Another example of the familial relationship shown in this game is when Yui gets kidnapped by Kino and taken away to wherever he lives. Laito is about ready to CRASH OUT at that point, and the others recognize that. So what do they do?

THEY LOOK FOR YUI.

They try to figure out where Yui is FOR LAITO’S SAKE. And Laito himself is, once again, stunned. That they’re being nice, that they care.

And the answer his brain comes up with is that “Oh, you’re just scared that I can kill you with the powers I have.”

This part is quite funny, as Ayato is like “oh, motherfucker AGAIN?!! How many times do we have to TEACH YOU THIS LESSON???? THAT WE CARE????”

But it gets better when fucking SHU chimes in with something akin to “Is that REALLY the only reason you think we’d be helping you…?” And when Laito says “duh?” Shu just… gives the biggest sigh and replies like “Y’know what, believe what you want. I’m not fighting this.”

(All dialogue is paraphrased to get the point across, seriously go read translations cause they do a way better job-)

But THIS is why I can’t hate Lost Eden. This, right here, the fact that, okay YES it’s the bare minimum when it comes to familial relationships, but it shows that they actually CARE. That they CAN be a true family, that they CAN worry for each other, that they CAN help each other. And something so tragic is that Laito almost basically refuses to see it, despite them literally yelling at him and waving big signs in front of his face.