thoughts on imperial thronesong—mine and everyones new favorite caleb memory
part 2 of this
i think imp. thronesong is so unique in which it takes calebmc’s cherished themes&plugs them into a new AU that then allows us to isolate and better understand their dynamic, born from those themes
i think i’ll first start by sharing my thoughts on the constant mention of BLOOD relationship in imperial thronesong.
first, let’s be clear that this is not a translation error. in chinese it says 血脉相连 which means blood connection—literally bound by blood.
it seems to almost always be used in a familial context, however i have seen some native speakers (i’ll link these below) share that it isn’t EXCLUSIVELY so. what’s important about this phrase is the importance it places on a shared origin. being made of the same thing. being from the same source. all things we are used to with calebmc.
my initial read on this line was sort of a “blood thicker than water” vibe, but reversed. “you’re my blood, regardless if we are related or not. this is how near and dear you are to me. this is how much i love you.”
to me, i still see calebmc as pseudo, but i think imperial thronesong is setting us up to finally learn about their shared origin. whether that means they were truly born from the same source (for example, being born of the remnants of the same collapsed star).
we’ve seen adam and eve tossed around a LOT, and let’s remember that eve was born from adam’s rib. she was born from him, they are made of the same genetic material.
calebmc are likely cosmic siblings/twins of some sort, and they have the same origin. they are made of the same material, whether that’s the same blood, cosmic dust, whatever.
he is her brother by blood. their existences are bound by their creation.
their specific omission of any information of EITHER of their parents i think supports this idea—they don’t have tangible parents that can be spoken of.
of course, this could as easily be a loophole on cn censorship laws about incest. i do also see the “blood-related” siblings angle of this. imperial thronesong takes on a “royal/medieval” AU in which this kind of thing is a common theme, english, chinese, and others. it would fit here, and i won’t deny that ESPECIALLY since…that’s how it was written.
but for me, the former theory makes a bit more sense.
side note, i was once again reminded of the idea that maybe they are related as a result of being born from two stars (or one star) when mc talks about the cryostalis
let’s talk about mc.
caleb’s mc in imperial thronesong is spoiled, greedy, ambitious, detestable even (caleb’s words). she’s unabashedly forward about what she wants and holds nothing back.
this is like our modern caleb’s mc, except seemingly more exaggerated. she gets what she wants at all costs.
as a result, caleb is the same. modern caleb’s actions and desires have always been “limited” by mc, in which caleb will always put her, her comfortability and boundaries, first.
but imperial thronesong mc has virtually…no boundaries. and this allows caleb to in turn ALSO be unabashedly himself.
it’s like, in this reality, we can see caleb and mc be MORE unapologetically themselves.
in this AU, we’re really able to see what mc and caleb’s true desires are—in a world where their relationship isn’t taboo due to their shared blood, but because of their opposing allegiances.
the difference between caleb and mc though is that mc’s greed does not just stop at caleb. she wants EVERYTHING. however, she wants caleb to be a part of these things.
she wants the throne, with caleb standing by her side. she wants victory and peace over caleb, but not to destroy him. she wants to rule a greater cosmos, with him supporting her.
her greed is born from caleb himself, and lowkey we see this in the puppy he gets her in which all her aides see the tayby as misbehaved but mc sees it as adorable, and so doesn’t train him.
of course this is an anology for mc and caleb themselves—we saw how much caleb spoiled her in imperial thronesong, and how caleb encourages it.
mc’s greed and desires are a cycle caused by caleb, and solved only by him.
what caleb wants boils down to mc. if he cannot be with her romantically, he is happy to be by her side. he ONLY wants her. his ambition seems to be driven from mc too.
to me, caleb joined the federation as a result of his ambition, just like how modern caleb became a pilot. but his ambition stems from mc. i feel there are many hints he joined the federation in hopes of creating peace WITH the empire/mc. their conversation in the greenhouse supports this
he wants her to always be his willful little sister, and with him leading the federation, he can make sure they will never pose a TRUE threat to her, as the conflict between the federation and empire started LONG before them. with him leading the federation, she can still be his little sister, and not the empress who belongs to everyone, the entire empire, and not just him.
i mentioned this in another post (https://x.com/xyzfy26/status/2006549308599054608?s=20), but what’s interesting in imperial thronesong is that the taboo nature of their relationship seems to be born from their opposing allegiances, him to the Federation and her to the Empire
their shared blood/siblingship seems to not really have EVER held them back. when she kissed him for the first time in the greenhouse, it wasn’t hesitant. it wasn’t shameful or guilty
and yet, they find themselves in the same scenario where theyre kept from what they want and must alter their fate, similarly to decoherence where they reject their fate of being opposing forces—not meant to ever be together, by choosing each other even if it means destruction.
we see a lot of similarities between imperial thronesong and the main story (same as we saw it with tainted cuts).
i think imperial thronesong does a REALLY good job at expanding on caleb’s line in indulgent scheme “i can’t say it’s always about you.”
spoke about that line here: twitter | tumblr
mc comes to the realization that she cannot and will never be able to control or own caleb. of course, we see that during the velytio warp betrayal. it’s not until the very end of the memory do we find out that the reason he did that was to protect both the federation, the empire, and her.
it’s a really good example of what he meant in that line. he does things selfishly. where she will never know what’s happening until after. and because of that, he is doing it for himself—he didn’t ask the empress’s opinion, permission, or allyship in it.
he just did it and yet again he did it FOR her. ALL his actions stem back to her, even if he does it for “himself”
another similarity i made another tweet about was between imperial thronesong and farspace bloomfall (here)
the similarity here is that famous line: “you can’t convince yourself to hate me with every fiber of your being. wouldn’t you agree?”
in all versions of calebmc that we’ve seen, they are adversaries of some sort (opposing goals like in lucid dreams, weapons to destroy each other in decoherence, or literal political enemies). but they will never be able to stay confined to that fate
she will never be able to hate him, even when fate, the empire, everyone around them DEMANDS it. they’d rather “kill” this fate, bend the rules of the universe so they can define their own path.
their attraction might not necessarily be for mutual destruction.
they’re on opposing sides but they want the same thing. they want each other. they want to be the only one who owns the other.
it’s a level of greed we’re only able to physically see in this specific au, yet it applies to every version of calebmc.
this level of greed is specific to this au where they seemingly belong to not JUST themselves. caleb belongs to the federation and mc belongs to the empire—their respective faction rely on and need them. versus in decoherence, X-02 and A-01 really belonged ONLY to each other.
but in imp. thronesong, they DO belong to other people (they both admit and….accept? that), and yet still will go to great lengths to make sure they can also belong to one another.
i could talk about so much with imperial thronesong because it literally reads like a myth. it has enough worldbuilding and conflict to constitute one. they isolate and touch on calebmc tropes in a way that a myth would, in a different au that allows us to then see those tropes in a different angle.
the constant theme of fate as the cosmos, in which the cosmos can never be controlled. how they’re not meant to be together, yet always find a way to be—even if they can’t stand beside each other that way (similar to the main story in which he found a way to be by her side, but as a result wasn’t “allowed” to be be WITH her).
the violent attraction and conflict that serve as a cycle that fuels their undying passion for one another. their twisted version of love.
these are all common themes we’ve seen from calebmc in the main story, decoherence, tainted cuts, really any version of them.
i will likely add onto this thread in the future. i need to read it a few more times—it’s a HEFTY piece of content. really, it should’ve been its own myth (or multi chaptered story some how)
there’s SO many different facets to dive into.
here are the sources to the above i mentioned for the blood brother line translations from native speakers:
https://x.com/itshaxsha/status/2006274759571693972?s=46 | https://x.com/applecrowned/status/2006524031449837771













