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takes a drag from my cigarette. do yuo guys ever think about how liliya hasn’t seen the outside world in at least 6 years. she was kept comatose in mount massive for 5 years + was there for at least 6 months before that too + has been in sinyala for probably around another 6 months. I think pretty much half her life has been spent in captivity at this point with her backstory too. looks off into the distance.
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[guy who only thinks about liliya voice] hey in coyle’s primary source document he refers to liliya as “bowling trofy” which is kinda hilarious but it’s also just another case of her not being considered Human to the people around her. she’s always just referred to as something like a trophy or a mannequin or an animal, never a Person. it’s so fascinating innit
I am about this 🤏 close to becoming a vriska homestuck She Did Nothing Wrong person about liliya tbh. it feels like every time someone is like “erm we need to talk about liliya’s hypocrisy/otherwise bad traits, everyone ever treats her like she’s perfect and morally correct”, which is fine, it’s immediately followed by “okay here’s my justification for coyle/easterman/etc’s behavior and why I think people are too mean to them” . cmon man :-/
yeah this isn’t getting finished tonight because I’m tired and wanna go to bed but quick sketch for yuri day 👍 cricket and liliya the worlds most normal lesbians. everything is so fine and normal. smiles. (words are lyrics from do no harm by jamie page ^w^)
I see the theory that liliya is lying about her backstory/none of it actually happened and while I wouldn’t mind it because I love characters who are Lying Liars Who Lie I just don’t think it’s true?
like. we know for sure she was kept captive by her mother as a child as we have a primary non-liliya source about it (the document mentioning it was a snippet of newspaper from around that time) + Wernicke mentions to Silas Knisely that he’d heard about an “Angel Of Leningrad” back when he was still working with the nazi military stuff and I don’t see why he’d lie about something like that. I guess she could theoretically be lying about it/taking credit for someone else who was the real Angel of Leningrad but that seems kinda weird I guess? and a bit lame too?
really the only parts of her life we Don’t have verifiable information about is her “lost years” and beyond (ofc we do know that she was killing rich people considering that’s the whole reason she was brought to the US but we don’t really know what happened before then), but really I don’t think that suggests much about her other than she may have Ulterior Motives for killing rich people and stealing their money but that’s also pretty obvious regardless lol
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okay sorry reupload because I didn’t like the last one and it was making me really anxious. anyways. insert something clever here about the word of god and how liliya has chosen to only really define herself in terms of devotion rather than as a real person etc etc
oh also while im talking about liliya and her comic. I don’t really understand why the idea that she went to Sinyala willingly is so prevalent ? like yeah she agreed to go to America after george nichols gave her his arm and leg and eye but i doubt that she knew she would end up in mount massive. I’d have to double check dates but I don’t think project lathe was even a thing when she was sent to mm, or if it was it was in Really early stages.
I think some people think she can see the future as part of her God Given Powars but there isn’t a lot of evidence for that ? nichols mentions Thinking that she could but he was both very much spiraling into obsession and delusion by that point And it could easily explained with other things (maybe she caught wind of the fact she was being looked for by people he interviewed or interacted with, maybe she didn’t know he was coming but was able to play it cool and make it seem like she did when he did show up, etc etc). I think overall it’s more of a combination of the fact she’s good at planning and scheming + has a lot of skill when it comes to hunting and tracking + just gets really lucky quite frequently lmao.
Anyways. all that aside, even if she Did know about murkoff/mount massive and going there was her intention, she was very much in her coma when the arrangements were made to send her to sinyala as a prime asset. it wasn’t like she walked up to a doctor and was like Hey Send Me To Your Other Location. she didn’t have a choice in it ! none of the primes did ! gooseberry maybe but she was definitely being misled about what it was + would’ve probably been sent there anyways even if she didn’t “agree”.
Idk. It’s just something that bothers me a bit because sometimes I feel like it carries the implication of “oh well liliya Chose to go to mount massive and sinyala so therefore all the heinous shit easterman and co are doing to her is lessened” which. absolutely not no. idk. shrugs!
I love these panels a lot because 1. she’s so freaking cuteeeee ohhh her pose in the second one especially. me when some random american walks into my hunting lodge and I whisper in his ear like im telling him a secret and get him to gruesomely mutilate himself and 2. I think the differences between how her costume looked pre-sinyala and during sinyala are so interesting.
obviously the main thing is her right arm, here it looks a lot less dexterous and almost like it’s permanently clutched in a fist, less like a sheath for a blade and more like just an accessory to give the illusion that she has 2 arms. I imagine maybe she didn’t have her cool arm blade here, probably did more of her killing with her claws that she Does have interestingly.
she also seems to have less jewelry (she’s missing most of the stuff on her arms + only has one, maybe two pearl necklaces) and her outfit seems a lot more. patchwork? like the pieces came from different places. I feel like it’s particularly noticeable with how her corset and stockings look here versus how much more they flow together in game yknow? (and while it’s probably just a choice so that the artist can avoid drawing her complex ass patterns, her mask appears a lot smoother and shinier like it’s made of leather or latex or smth similar. maybe she just straight up took a hood used for kink stuff and modified it to look more Saintly? idk this is just spitballing at this point lol)
there’s also the fact that she appears to be not as skinny as she is in game. shes still skinny obviously but she’s not like. A Twig like she is in game lol. this could just be a stylistic choice or whatever but it could also have some sad implications for how she’s being treated by murkoff. I doubt the expop get fed well in general but it almost seems like murkoff is either purposely giving her less or encouraging/pressuring her to eat less so she looks more mannequin-like.
