Liella! RELAY INTERVIEW Vol. 4: Ookuma Wakana (Wakana Shiki) - Real Sound JP [2026.07.20]
[Original Interview here]
"I'm Savoring My Youth." How Her Outlook Changed After Joining, and Her Own Take on "Wakana Shiki"
Liella!, the group born from Love Live! Superstar!!, marked the 5th anniversary of their debut this April. Starting out in 2021 with five first-generation members, Liella! welcomed four second-generation members in 2022 and two third-generation members in 2023, growing into the eleven-member group they are today. The cast side of their activities is thriving too: their numbered concert series has reached its 7th installment this year, they have appeared at festivals and plenty of other music events, and their own variety show, Liella! no Chu-toriera!! / TUTOLiella!! (Nippon TV), has now run for two seasons. So how do they see this thing called Liella! today? Through this relay interview series, Real Sound unpacks what all eleven of them are feeling.
For the fourth installment, we welcome Ookuma Wakana (voice of Wakana Shiki), second generation member who joined in 2022. At the end of the interview, the relay segment continues, with a question she wants to ask the next member and something she respects about them. Don't miss it.
"My Desire to See Things From All Kinds of Angles Has Grown Stronger"
──This year marks four years since you joined Liella!.
Ookuma Wakana (below: Ookuma): While I'm in the middle of Liella! activities, I think "it's only been a year" or "only two years, huh," but looking back like this, it really flew by. It hits me like, "Wait, it's been four years already!?", and I've been given the chance to experience so many things in these four years. I'm incredibly grateful for that, but at the same time, it's true that a little anxiety follows me around. I've started thinking more often, "Was I able to give my absolute all to each and every thing?" or "Couldn't I have gotten better results?"
──Maybe that's because you've built up experience and can do more now? You were giving it everything back then, but looking back, you can't help thinking, "I could have done more."
Ookuma: I think that's exactly it.
──So in what ways do you think you've actually grown over these four years?
Ookuma: My perspective has widened, and I've calmed down inside. In the beginning, all of us 2nd generation members were really nervous. Adding a 2nd generation to an existing group was a first for the Love Live! Series, so we were desperate to leave our mark. We were always throwing everything we had at it. But now, my feeling has shifted to "I want to support the group."
Ookuma: When you've been active this long, each of the eleven of us naturally finds our own position and our own strengths. We've entered the stage where each member is honing what she's best at. And for me, what I'm trying to hone is stepping back to look at the bigger picture. I think that with my wider perspective, my desire to see things from all kinds of angles has grown stronger.
──That sounds like a vice president's way of thinking, somehow. It overlaps with the member you play.
Ookuma: Ahaha (laughs)! True. Shiki-chan is the school idol club's next vice president, after all.
──Has anything happened during your activities so far that you never could have imagined?
Ookuma: Hmm... (thinking it over for a while) Getting to meet famous people, maybe? For example, when I get to work with YouTube creators I watched growing up, like HIKAKIN-san, I feel like I'm in a dream, thinking, "I was supposed to be in a whole different world...!" I'm calm while we're actually working together, but afterwards it's like, "Something amazing just happened!" (laughs).
Ookuma: Even now, I can't believe I'm in this world. When friends from home tell me, "You were on TV, I saw you," or, "I've been keeping an eye on your activities," it feels so strange. Because at the end of the day, the one who became famous is Shiki-chan.
Her Own Interpretation of "Wakana Shiki"
──What do you keep in mind when performing live?
Ookuma: Not letting myself show, I'd say. I stand on stage with the mindset "I am Wakana Shiki." Of course, the one physically standing there is me, and I know there are lots of people watching who support Ookuma Wakana. That genuinely makes me really happy, but for my own part, my mindset is "I am Wakana Shiki" and "I want to be seen as Wakana Shiki." During the MC segments, a bit of the real me does slip out, but even then I make sure not to forget Shiki-chan.
──Do you also trace Shiki-chan's movements?
Ookuma: I do. But it's not just directly tracing her dance scenes as they are. I try to build it up through imagination, like "this movement isn't shown in the anime, but Shiki-chan would probably do it this way." It can only ever stay within my imagination, but I stand on stage with my own interpretation of "Wakana Shiki."
──Amazing. It's like you've reached a state of enlightenment with this.
Ookuma: When I do that, things happen that could only happen live. Even with ad-libs that come out in the moment, there are instants where I can express them as Shiki-chan. Things that never came out in rehearsal suddenly well up. In those moments, it feels like I'm having a conversation with Shiki-chan inside my head.
──You're already quite in sync with Shiki, then.
Ookuma: I'd like to think so!
──Next, tell us which of your concerts so far is especially memorable.
Ookuma: I've mentioned this in all sorts of places, but it's when I rode the trolley during the encore of the Aichi show on our 4th live tour (Love Live! Superstar!! Liella! 4th LoveLive! Tour ~brand new Sparkle~). Someone who had probably come from overseas caught my eye, fully decked out with all kinds of merch and blades (penlights).
Ookuma: He had this sharp, businessman-like air about him, so I assumed he'd be the type to watch quietly, but he was cheering with everything he had, so much that his energy spread to the people around him. It really took me by surprise. It only lasted a moment, but it left such an impression that I ended up talking about it in the MC that same day. I don't know if he came from overseas for the concert or is someone from abroad living in Japan, but it was a moment where I could feel how far Liella! has spread, like "so this is how we connect with the world."
Liella! Is Like "School" to Her: "I'm Savoring My Youth"
──Tell us which Liella! song is special to you.
Ookuma: UNIVERSE!!. I love that song. Also, it has solo versions by each of the nine 1st and 2nd generation members, and when my family listened to Shiki-chan's solo, they complimented me, saying, "Your voice comes through really nicely. It's good." And my family hardly ever compliments me to my face.
──Did you feel something different yourself when you recorded it?
Ookuma: No, if anything, it was the song that frustrated me the most. It's a wonderful song, but I felt like my voice came out a little different from when I was practicing. Even when I listened to the rough mix with my voice in it, I kept thinking, "Is this really okay?" But once it was actually released, the response from my family and everyone around me was really positive. That whole experience, including realizing "huh, so that can happen," is why it stays with me.
[1st Anniversary] "UNIVERSE!! / #Liella!" (from the Liella! 4th Live BD BOX, released May 15)
──Your latest mini album was released on July 8. Tell us what to listen for in the new song Hyper Glowing!.
Ookuma: It's a bit of an unusual song. Rather than flowing smoothly from one line into the next (TL Note: legato-ish delivery), it's more like you sing it phrase by phrase, with a clean break each time (TL Note: staccato-ish delivery). That's what makes it interesting to me, and I really like it. Also, it was made for a project to liven up Harajuku, a place with deep ties to Liella!, and the areas around it (the "Liella! to Musubu Project"), so if you visit the Harajuku area before a concert and soak in the feeling of this song first, I think you'll be able to immerse yourself in the show even more. [TL note: In case anyone forgot, musubu (結ぶ) means "to tie together, connect", and its kanji is the same 結 that opens 結ヶ丘 (Yuigaoka), the girls' school]
──Next, tell us what the Love Live! Series, Liella!, and Shiki mean to you now.
Ookuma: School, I'd say. In high school, I was in the drama club, and I loved the time I spent with everyone there. I kept thinking, "I wish this time could go on forever," and "I wish the drama club could just become my job as it is." So joining Liella! after graduating was like that dream coming true. And since there are senpai and kouhai, it feels all the more like school. I really get to savor my youth here.
──And within that, what has Shiki become to you?
Ookuma: Shiki-chan is my other self at this point. Over these four years with Liella!, I've been pulled closer and closer to her, and I feel like the parts of me that resemble her have grown. Honestly, I wanted to be the one pulling Shiki-chan along, though (laughs). Before I knew it, I had become a supporting presence like her, seeing things with a wide perspective and offering suggestions when everyone is stuck.
──So the vice president quality we mentioned at the start came about through all this. Then, to finish, let me ask the relay interview question. The question for you from Emori-san is: "How do you switch between on and off?"
Ookuma: Switching, huh...!
──According to Emori-san, you're the type who fully channels your character, and the moment you step on stage, it looks like a switch flips on. She says that's what amazes her.
Ookuma: Ahh, honestly, there's nothing you could really call a switch. It's just that I change when there are eyes on me. At home I'm a shapeless lazy lump, like some kind of youkai, but the moment I take even one step outside, my back straightens right up. If I so much as walk into a cafe, I'll be sitting there sipping tea with perfect posture.
──I see. So it's not that there's a switch, you just shift over without realizing it.
Ookuma: Probably, yes. I think it's that wish of mine, "I want even one more person to see me in a good light," that switches me over naturally. But I'm glad she'd say something as nice as "amazing" about it.
──Then next, please tell us what you respect about Yabushima Akane-san (voice of Yoneme Mei), who appears after you, along with your question for her.
Ookuma: Yabushima-san is truly kind. Out front, she'll say things like "Oi!" or "Omae!" [TL note: rough, boyish ways of calling someone out, very in character for Mei], but behind the scenes she's looking out for everyone, and if anyone seems even a little worn out, she'll check in like a mom: "Are you okay?", "Don't push yourself, alright?" And at the same time, when it's better to leave someone be, she leaves them be.
──She has a good sense of balance, then.
Ookuma: She does. I respect how she can be that attentive to the little things. As for my question... what should I go with?
──It doesn't have to be related to what you respect about her.
Ookuma: Let's see... Ah, I've got one. Yabushima-san loves food, and she eats around so much you'd think she's covered every cafe in Tokyo. So I'll go with, "Tell me what food you're really into lately?"
──Nice, that sounds like something she can answer casually.
Ookuma: But please tell her, "No pumpkin allowed!" If you don't, she'll answer pumpkin for sure (laughs)!
Interview and text: Matsumoto Mayuge Photos: Horiuchi Ayaka














