This is the most stupidest and most mentally ill anon you will get in your life i get it, if you have no words to say, cause (you will be flabbergrasted how stupid this is) you can ignore and do not respond in any way..., no pressure.
i am going dive right and here's the embrassing problem i have been suffering for a while
My brain can't accept halfdan as a pure blooded kheanri'ahn
The story basically started like this when i first saw halfdan, i instantly thought he had some other connections other than khaenri'ah and hc'ed him as half liyuean mind you this was 2.6 and i found the hc just very fittable for him like it made him more human to me.. and to there was some proof
Okay fast forward to 5.7 //spoiler alert///
The convo between haden and dain, i mean haden himself y'know he turned into a abyss baptist made me realize halfdan is pure blooded (unforturnatly) cause haden had turned Into a "monster" which is the same thing halfdan has gone through as for dainsleif-he just wears a ring...to not turn to what halfdan or haden turned into
Now i feel so conficted, and sad, cause whenever i think of halfdan.. whenever i try to tell my brain, that halfdan is pure blooded it refuses. i can't view him like that
Sorry, this is more embrassing than thought i am acually ashamed with myself right now how i am this stupid-
i know you are not the right person but there is noone to talk about halfdan in general... .
Anyways ty for reading, your mind's probs boggled how nonsense this anon is.
.ty for all you and have a great day, â¤ď¸
NO DUDE I'VE LITERALLY BEEN SO CONFUSED ABOUT THIS
(and don't be self-deprecating! <3 this is something that's been on my mind too.)
i apologize bc this starts out as halfdan posting/theorizing and then becomes me rambling about khaenri'ahn genetics for 10 paragraphs so. full post under cut
In Which I Try To Figure Out What The Fuck Is Up With Khaenri'ahn Genetics
so. look.
dainsleif: pureblood. chlothar: pureblood.
caribert: halfblood. and yet, his eyes are just as star-ry as chlothar and dain. (although caribert did have to imagine himself grown up, so we have to take his appearance with a grain of salt.)
direidyth: some amount of kh blood (unclear how much, but likely a few generations, considering her eyes have shifted from stars to diamonds.)
so what the hell is w/ halfdan? because now, from caribert, we can guess that the star pupils last at least one generation.
and i agree, halfdan really does look liyuean! tbh, i'm a fan of it (or at least having some liyuean ancestry) bc kh was supposed to be a (diverse) nation of humans, y'know? unfortunately, genshin models are a very unreliable thing to use to speculate from, but let's just assume he is because just like caribert and direidyth, halfdan ended up monsterized as well.
-and yet, we can no longer rely on who is humanoid and who is monsterized to tell us who is pureblood or not, because. (gestures to capitano and haden).
it's implied the curse of the wild includes hilichurls and all abyss folk (mages, heralds, lectors, etc) and maybe(???) the black serpent knights/shadowy husks. but then what the fuck denotes someone from being a sentient monster vs a hilichurl? i'd say it's the dilution of khaenri'ahn bloodlines, considering direidyth, but caribert had a fullblood parent and was also turned into a hilichurl.
and let's say the black serpent knights were all fullblooded KHs, and yet, they all turned into some armored monster-knights that all suffered from erosion til they were barely sentient. but personally, i assume the knights' monster forms fall under the 'curse of the wild' category, which would imply they would all be partblooded?
and yet, look at haden (also, not my screenshot): he has the curse of immortality, meaning he's fullblooded, and yet he bears the form of an abyss lector. then there's also people like pierro (assumedly fullblood) and capitano; pierro probably has smth similar to dain to keep the curse at bay, and capitano is still humanoid and suffering from the "rot" from erosion.
i actually theorized this a while ago, but i think that all khaenri'ahns were subjected to abyssal corrosion/rot and whether they embraced it or not resulted in their abyss monster forms and coherency (esp for possible wilderness-cursed ones? after all, caribert's situation showed that the power of the abyss could return wilderness-cursed monsters to sentiency.)
haden literally tells us he uses the abyss to keep his body intact, and look at jakob ingold (iniquitous baptist) and klingsor (abyss herald) from the narkissenkreuz and khvarena quests respectively. their transformations from humans to abyss creatures implies that this happens if someone embraces or is contaminated by the abyss regardless of race, implying that the curse of the wilderness and the curse of immortality for khaenri'ahns are separate from any abyssal forms.
this also checks out for the fact dain could murder the rest of the apparently sentient abyss order army (not immortal), but not haden, and also the fact the pari zurvan describes dain's body as "half of his body had become that of a monster, but i did not sense an aura of monstrosity in him." presumably, zurvan is talking about dain's "rot", but unless dain is secretly partblooded, this makes the description of appearing 'monstrous' checks out.
(as for why capitano doesn't have abyssal corrosion, or chlothar: perhaps they did, or weren't hit by the abyss when the cataclysm happened. dain's situation with the ring regenerating his body implies that at least for dain, the abyssal corrosion/rot would continue to grow. look at atea from the natlan aq: her inner organs were abyss corrupted and continued to deteriorate, and the corrosion was amplified when she was exposed to abyssal power.)
ofc, i'm still unclear on whether the black serpent knights fall under the wilderness curse or the abyss, and whether the immortal "rot"/erosion is the same as the abyssal contamination, so halfdan could be whatever the fuck nationality honestly.
and (sorry for the kaeya jumpscare), then there's kaeya, whose eyes are slightly star-like but don't fit either versions of currently known khaenri'ahn eyes. so who knows whatever the fuck his problem is genetically.
(not to mention, direidyth, being partblooded, and halfdan possibly being so, seems to suggest that khaenri'ahn-other-nationality descendants aren't actually as uncommon or taboo as caribert's situation might make you think. otherwise, unless you just magically gained star eyes upon entering khaenri'ah, why are direidyth and her apparent grandmother around?)
SO. TLDR;
i'm actually no closer to answers than i was in the beginning of this (at least regarding halfdan's ethnicity), considering i would need to be sure of the distinction between abyss folk khaenri'ahns, hilichurl khaenri'ahns, black serpent knight khaenri'ahns, and even then it makes no goddamn sense
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Different anon from before, but piggybacking off the âwhatâs up with Halfdan and friends and why was Caribertâs situation weirdâ ask and answer: I thought the whole reason Caribertâs existence was considered a taboo was because he was illegitimate/the product of Clothar (who was specifically stated to be a nobleman) having had an affair with a foreigner who was probably also a commoner. Less to do with his being half-Khaenriâahn and more just. Being a literal bastard child.
hmm, y'know what? fair point. i was kind of thinking it's equally both. or maybe not 'equally' but you get my drift- mostly bc of these two statements in genshin
"Hleobrant is the descendant of those who forsook their god and came to the Kingdom. This is why the Kingdom's obstinately pure-blooded aristocracy persists. This is the price of betraying your own god." (Perinheri)
Eide: "Because although Khaenri'ah began with a single bloodline, it was a home to others, too... Any who forsook their gods and came to Khaenri'ah were welcomed as our fellow citizens."
so i was going off the assumption here that it was a pretty clean divide between the only pureblood khaenri'ahns being the upper class (maybe descended from the 'first line'?) and then automatically-middle-to-lower class teyvatian immigrants, and then i realized that still makes little sense because like. in the beginning, who did the aristocrats 'rule' over if not other khaenri'ahns? so, there likely was a pureblood khaenri'ahn lower-to-middle class as well. it's honestly the only way direidyth exists unless her grandmother was either a bastard child or descended from one.
personally, if i had to imagine the kh class/ethnicity system, it'd probably be
pureblood khs (royalty and noble classes)
middle and lower classes: mix of immigrant teyvatians and khaenri'ahn-teyvat descendants
but i'm still concerned about the fact pureblood khaenri'ahns began with a "single bloodline", bc if intermarrying w/ teyvatians (although it surely happened, maybe moreso in the beginning) wasn't 'pure', then what was? my current 2 theories:
we don't know what outsiders like perinheri counted as, but maybe they counted as keeping the bloodlines "pure" because they weren't from teyvat? it's at least better than my other theory, which is, unfortunately,
incest.
they did. a lot of that in american/european cultures where they focused on keeping the bloodline "pure". so um.
let's cross our fingers and hope all our khaenri'ahn pureblood characters aren't descended from that â¤ď¸
