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[2025 UPDATED] (Problematic things Super Junior has done)
Problematic things they have done since pre-debut to 2025 (now).
Trigger warning: racism, misogyny, paedophilia, homophobia, Sulli's passing and other sensitive topics.
The whole group:
The main actress in Super Junior's "Devil" MV was only 14 years old. The main actress admitted her age on Instagram during the "Devil" era. She drove a car, kissed Siwon, seduced Kyuhyun, pointed a gun at Kangin, and flirted with Yesung.
Leeteuk:
Told Suzy to lose weight in front of Miss A members. Leeteuk said, "Suzy needs to lose weight first."Ā After this statement, both Jia and Fei told Leeteuk toĀ "knock it off". Kan Mi Yeon also disapproved of what Leeteuk said, and he quickly tried to move on with a smile after saying he was just joking.
Said "I really dislike fat girls. I don't think they take care of their bodies well."
Performed with Boom, who was doing blackface while performing (With Shindong and Eunhyuk).
Being creepy to Yeonwoo by trying to message her on Instagram but ended up messaging a fan account. He said "Yeonwoo-ya".
Being creepy to Yoona, Krystal, and Sooyoung when they were minors. Krystal and Leeteuk were on the same show in 2011. Leeteuk mentioned that he had asked Krystal to marry him back when they first met. Krystal joined SM when she was 11. Leeteuk met Krystal when she was 11 and he was 22/23. Yoona exposed Leeteuk for asking her to marry him when she was 13 and Leeteuk was 20. Leeteuk grabbed and hugged Sooyoung when he was excited because of a World Cup match in 2002. Leeteuk was 19 and Sooyoung was 12. SM's female and male trainees weren't allowed to hang out together anymore because of that incident. Sooyoung was Leeteuk's first love.
Forced Minah to kiss him for the āsakeā of a prank. Minah was shaking her head and trying to send covert signals, but he just pressed on with it and kissed her on the lips, even though she had her mouth tightly shut and said āDo it on the forehead! On the forehead!ā Leeteuk put her in an uncomfortable situation one that she did not consent to. He was asked about it later and gave a really⦠weak excuse to reason his kiss, which did not make him look good.
His top advice for dating women was to make sure they're young and keep serving them drinks.
Leeteuk asked the Korean government to ask Korean citizens to pay taxes so that celebrities could ride taxis using the citizens' money.
He and Shindong defended Kangin who has a history of crimes at Ryeowook's wedding. Leeteuk said people should support Kangin so that he can earn a living despite his crimes. Leeteuk said, "Everyone, youāre now seeing Kangin, whose self-reflection time is longer than promotion time. Please forgive Kangin now. Kangin, whoās reflecting for 15 years & promoted for 5 years". Leeteuk proceeded to say "On a happy & great day like this. Please hug/hold Kangin" and Shindong replied "Yes". Leeteuk also said, "Please give him love, so that Kangin will able to make a living" and Shindong replied, "Please help him a lot". Then, Leeteuk said, "(We) ask for everyoneās help".
Said, "When girls shed tears, it's just water coming out of their body, but when guys shed tears, it's their blood coming out of their hearts."
Had a crush on Sunye (Ex Wonder Girls) when she was 13 and he was 19. Leeteuk said āWhen I first saw the 13-year-old Sunye, I thought I had stopped breathingā.
Said he loves Donald Trump and Elon Musk at SMTOWN LA.
Heechul:
Wore cornrows.
Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in āA Style For Youā episode 4.
Had a crush on Sohee when she was 16 and said she was his ideal type. Sohee was 16 and Heechul was 25 in 2008. Heechul confessed his love for Sohee many times.
Japanese fetish. For instance, he referred to himself as "uncle" and then proceeded to ask Kazuha for her phone number. Kazuha was 19 and Heechul was 39. Heechul is known to love anime and anything Japanese including Japanese women. Heechul reacted creepily when Nako was asked to make an impression of Yazawa Nico. Heechul dated Momo (a Japanese woman). Heechul has a body pillow of a 14-year-old anime girl.
Discussed a woman-centred community online that was being sued by an incel YouTuber named Bokyeom. He proceeded to take the side of the incel YouTuber and called the women that were in the named community misogynistic slurs. He further mentions how he donates a lot of money as if that had anything to do with the issue.
Commented on the Japan-Korea-related boycott but since I'm not very educated on the topic aside from knowing the fact that Japan once violently colonized Korea. I will not comment on this issue.
When Sulli passed, there were lots of discussions on the misogynistic hate comments being possible reasons for her passing. Even though I disagree with speculating about the reasons for someone's passing, I do think it's important to highlight the unjust misogynistic hate she received. Heechul, however, felt the need to reduce these discussions to gender wars by saying that the hate Sulli received had nothing to do with gender issues and those discussions were just a way of pitting the genders against each other. He is ignoring the fact that Sulli was very outspoken about gender injustice against women. By writing these posts as her friend, he was dismissing the values she always stood up for.
Caught being subscribed to a channel that blamed the victims of the "Nth Room" incident. A lot of women were trafficked, threatened and trapped in online networking sites to perform sexual acts while people, mostly young men, recorded them and forced them to do things according to their disturbing fantasies.
Being rude to Ningning on Knowing Bros. Karina, Winter and Ningning appeared on Knowing Bros. He asked all three girls, "Do you look at a guy's looks or not?" and Ningning immediately responded, "I don't.". Everyone was doubtful of Ningning's answer and protested against her answer. That is when Heechul decided to speak up. He blurted, "Young Chul has the best personality among us," and implied to ask her if she would date him or not. Ningning responded with, "Oh really? And..." making everyone laugh. Ningning was 20 (born in 2002) and Young Chul was 48 (born in 1974).
Danced to "Tunak Tunak" in a stereotypical/mocking way along with Blackpink on Knowing Bros.
Used an Native American headdress filter on Instagram.
Defended his former teammate Kangin, who had a history of drunk driving and scandals, and used strong language during discussions related to school violence and a specific online community. He appeared on a live broadcast forĀ Afreeca TVĀ withĀ BJ Choi. During the broadcast, he got seemingly very drunk and gained a lot of negative attention for his comments on topics. During the broadcast, while talking about his former bandmate Kangin and him being a fighter, ASTROās Cha Eunwoo was suddenly mentioned. Heechul explained how close he is to the singer, adding, āIām so close with Eunwoo. Heās so handsome, but heās such a manly man (literally translated as alpha male)ā. The term āalpha maleā can be interpreted negatively as some of the traits can be seen as toxic. Although Heechul seemingly meant to praise Eunwoo, his following statements gained attention as he related it to the rising topic of āschool bullyingā. Heechul said, "If you talk to him about school bullying, he would have cussed more than me". Heechul seemed to paint Eunwoo as someone violent and aggressive when Heechul started explaining how he thought Eunwoo would act upon hearing about a bully. Heechul said "I understand why he is popular, of course. He has an image on TV, but if he heard about a school bully, he would be like, āHyungnim, bring that f**ker here,ā and would have slapped him. Heās such a manly man (Alpha male) who likes to exerciseā¦".
Defended "Idol School" after it was accused of sexualizing children (young girls as young as 13 were made to dance with wet white tops) by K-feminists. Heechul was a judge on "Idol School" and then became a mentor for fromis_9 after their debut.
When Red Velvet appeared on Knowings Bros, Irene was asked to wear acupressure slippers. It's hard to wear acupressure slippers while standing, let alone jump with them if you're not used to them. Irene was skipping while wearing acupressure slippers. The jumping rope hitted her head. Heechul asked her if she was in pain because of those slippers. Irene replied it was just the rope hitting her, but Heechul insisted that it was the slippers that hurt her. Irene got angry and said it was the jumping rope again, not the slippers.
Had a crush on Momo when she was barely an adult, she was 18/19 and he was 32. Heechul has been following TWICE since their debut because of their Japanese members.
Was rude to IVE on Knowing Bros. Heechul asked An Yujin, āAre you sure you guys arenāt rude on stage like āWe areĀ DaesangĀ singers, and so we donāt need rehearsals?'āTo which An Yujin pushed back, stating that IVE wouldnāt act like that and stopping Kim Hee Chulās trolling in the process. An Yujin said "Is it mandatory for Daesang winners to act like that? We arenāt like that".
Hangeng:
Wore a Native American headband.
Yesung:
Did blackface to cosplay as Nick Fury and reposted his blackface photos 3 times after being called out.
Said "I think obese people are lazy".
Said that fat girls cannot wear mini-skirts. When asked, "What's the most unattractive image when a woman wears a mini-skirt?", Yesung chose "women who have fat legs." The other answers were, "women who have hairy legs" and "women who open their legs when sitting.".
Choreographed and participated in a racist dance to mock Indians and portray them as "snake charmers" (With Shindong, Sungmin, Eunhyuk, Ryeowook, and Kyuhyun). Yesung put a snake prop/fake snake around his neck and it looked like he used his hands to charm the snake.
Kangin:
DUI hit-and-run. On October 16, 2009, around 3 AM, Kangin collided with two parked taxis and left the scene of the hit-and-run incident. The occupants of the two vehicles, including the drivers and two passengers, were reportedly uninjured.Ā Five hours later, Kangin turned himself into the police. He was recorded to have aĀ blood alcohol content of 0.082% when he arrived at the station.Ā He then failed to show up at the Seoul Gangnam Police Station at 2 PM on the same day for further investigation and had to be called in the following day.
Reportedly assaulted his ex-girlfriend. On November 17, 2017, police responded after receiving a call that Kangin was drunk and assaulting a woman at an escort bar in the Nonhyeon neighbourhood of Seoul. Upon investigation, police described it as āa minor dispute, and the parties reconciled at the scene and took measures to return home.ā with no injuries, and no parties wished for charges to be pressed, Kangin was sent off with a warning and not formally booked on any charges.
Called VIXX's N "fucking trash".
Made fun of f(x) Amber for being masculine by calling her a "man". Kangin said, āThis is unfair we have 3 guys,āĀ when everyone else said Amberās a woman andĀ scolded him.
Told Lovelyz to lose weight. He said āWe canāt play this game because these girls are making a come back and they need to stick to their diets. They need to lose weight.ā
Shindong:
Wore a Native American headdress.
Did blackface to imitate Oprah.
Made fun of Shuhua's Korean language skills.
Accused BTS of copying EXO.
Said "If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. Lose some weight, why can't you take care of yourself? When I say this, the person might think, 'Look who's talking,' but I would reply, 'I'm a boy and you're a girl.'".
To this, both Kim Shin Young and announcer Gu Eun Young retorted, "Why does gender matter in this situation? So girls have to be skinny and boys can be..." Taken aback by their remarks, Shindong quickly explained, "I'm just saying. Honestly, I would want the person that I love to be more pretty or more handsome."
Performed with Boom, who was doing blackface while performing (With Leeteuk and Eunhyuk).
Choreographed and participated in a racist dance to mock Indians and portray them as "snake charmers" (With Yesung, Sungmin, Eunhyuk, Ryeowook, and Kyuhyun). Shindong dressed up as an Indian girl and used a Sari.
Took photos of TVXQ's Yunho without his permission when he (Shindong) was a trainee and Yunho already debuted as an idol.
Shindong decided to react to Taemin's music video for 'Advice' which brought about a backlash from Taemin's fans. Like any other reaction video, Shindong sat down and gave his opinionated remarks while watching the video. As soon as the video started, Shindong gave a reaction of being impressed by Taemin's dancing. He said, "Every time I see Taemin's dance, it's just very...it feels like it's fast-forwarded. Oh this MV is amazing." Throughout the video, Shindong didn't hold back his praise. However, some fans took issue with one remark by Shindong. In the middle of the reaction video, Shindong said, "He's got this pretty visual so even when he is with female dancers, he goes nicely with them" and praised Taemin's advantages of having an androgynous look. He continued to say, "It's hard to tell if he's a guy or a girl..." which is the sentence that backfired on Shindong despite him saying it as praise and compliment. Quickly, many Taemin fans took to social media to criticize Shindong as they said his remarks were unnecessary. There were some even taking out their anger against Shindong and saying profanities against him.
He and Leeteuk defended Kangin who has a history of crimes at Ryeowook's wedding and agreed with Leeteuk's comments to support Kangin so that he can earn a living despite his crimes.
Made inappropriate comments towards Choi Yena (Ex IZ*ONE/Soloist). Shindong said "I went to a sperm bank yesterday". Yena said "Huh? What? What did you say?". Yena then said, āWait, can you even say that? I donāt think youāre an idol.ā
Sungmin:
Asking Leeteuk for marriage acceptance even though he was going through a very big family loss.
Scheduled the wedding to take place during Super Junior's scheduled performances.
Choreographed and participated in a racist dance to mock Indians and portray them as "snake charmers" (With Yesung, Shindong, Eunhyuk, Ryeowook, and Kyuhyun). Sungmin and Eunhyuk used flutes to look like they hypnotize a snake.
Wore a Native American headband.
Wore side braids.
Eunhyuk:
Made a girl cry on "We Got Married". On "We Got Married", the āFighting Juniors,ā which consists of Sungmin, Eunhyuk, Donghae and Kyuhyun haveĀ been helping Leeteuk and Kang Sora in their āWe Got Marriedā episodes, and they recently finished their first dates with the actresses Lee Sena, Shin Soo Yol, Son Eun Seo and Jung Yeon Ju. However, in the short duration of time that has passed, there have seemed to be changes in their opinions and thoughts. Before, Eunhyuk had chosen Lee Sena as his favourite, but later on changed his mind to Son Eun Seo, causing Lee Sena to cry in the final choices.
(Allegedly) dated IU when she was 19 and he was 26.
Misogynistic title track controversy (GGB scandal with Donghae). Korean fans have brought up the misogynistic connotations behind the word, accusing Super Junior D&E of not being mindful. The title of the song (GGB) is a phrase used when calling a woman, but it is a derogatory one. It is not completely a curse word, and there are instances where it is used amongst girls themselves or mother-daughters in a joking way, but it is similar to when some words can be used jokingly amongst the same race, but are considered racist for others to use. [Jijibae (GGB)] is a word that modern women are averse to, and it is especially unpleasant when it is used by a man. 10 to 15 years ago, it was more commonly used with the meaning of ābad woman,ā. The word ājijibaeā in Korean originates from the word āgyejibae,ā which loosely translates to āwench.ā While it can be used to refer to a woman or girl, it holds derogatory meaning and disrespect. This mistake can easily be avoided. They could've chosen another title for the song. It's not that hard to choose another title for the song.
Performed with Boom, who was doing blackface while performing (With Leeteuk and Shindong).
Choreographed and participated in a racist dance to mock Indians and portray them as "snake charmers" (With Yesung, Shindong, Sungmin, Ryeowook, and Kyuhyun).
Wore dreadlocks.
Wore a Native American headband.
Siwon:
Wore a dreadlocks wig in a performance (With Donghae).
Did too many homophobic things (Ć100).
Retweeted a homophobic tweet.
Posted a transphobic meme on Bubble.
Said "I do not wish to acknowledge homosexuals".
Dog biting incident. His French bulldog had a history of biting people. For instance, Leeteuk said Siwon's dog tried to bite him. Siwon and his family had a habit of not putting their dog on a leash despite the dog being aggressive. His dog bit an old lady and the lady died.
Openly supports Israel. In an interview, a reporter asked which city he would like to go and he answered "Jerusalem, Israel". Siwon said he wanted to go to Israel with one of his friends. He took photos with Israeli diplomats and had political summits/meetings with them. He said "Israel Elf", interacted with an Israeli fan, and acknowledged Israel as a country, etc.
Posted a photo of him drinking Starbucks during the boycott.
Fan of Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump. Both of these presidents were/are horrible people.
Wore a Native American headband.
Mourned Charlie Kirk. Kirk was a Zionist, misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic, Islamophobic, supported slavery, supported gun violence and a Trump supporter.
Zhoumi:
Zhoumi laughed about the earthquake of 6.8 magnitude that hit Taiwan saying āWhen the earthquake struck just then, it was just like playing.ā Moreover, Zhou Mi even used last yearās Si Chuan earthquake as a comparison, saying: āLast year, when we were promoting in China, we also met an earthquake, and it was pretty happy.ā And Han Geng who was beside him immediately rushed forward to clarify: āHe (Zhou Mi) doesnāt mean happy.ā However, it was too late, as everything was already recorded by the media.
Supported China's movement of claiming territories in the South China Sea. He took to his Sina Weibo account to repost a nationalistic poster from the Chinese newspaper "People's Daily". It shows a map of China and the "nine-dash line" that covers most of the South China Sea. Accompanied by the caption: "This is China, not one bit less".
Donghae:
Wore a dreadlocks wig in a performance (with Siwon).
Eunhyuk said every time they have a comeback, Donghae suggests hair for him and tries to get him to do dreadlocks for a D&E comeback.
Wore braids in the House Party MV. He chose to do the hairstyle himself.
Wore an Elsa dress and a keffiyeh to be "Rich Elsa" and threw fake money to portray Arabs as "oil money rich people".
Was aggressive and tried to raise his hand against Irene after he lost a game. Irene got scared. Yesung got mad at him by saying "Why are you acting like a gangster?". In the episode, he was so mad every time he lost a point to Irene and said the game was a lie.
Donghae participated in the same performance as Xuan Yi who did the Bharatanatyam dance mockingly while wearing a Charlie Chaplin moustache and approved her of doing the Bharatanatyam dance. On a Super TV episode, Super Junior invited girl groups to their show. In that episode, each Super Junior member had to team up with a girl group to make a performance. Donghae teamed up with WJSN. Donghae chose Tunak Tunak as their song for their performance because he thought it was an exciting song. Both WJSN and Donghae choreographed, practised and participated in the performance. Each team had to get a prop/instrument to perform with, Donghae and WJSN got the Sogo. At the beginning of the performance, Xuan Yi did the Bharatanatyam dance mockingly while wearing a Charlie Chaplin moustache and did head bobbling movements. Then, the other girls and Donghae came behind her. After that, the other girls did head bobbling movements and then Donghae started dancing with them. It was WJSN's idea to make Xuan Yi do the Bharatanatyam dance. However, Donghae was the team captain and WJSN's senior. He fully had control of their performance. Plus, it was Super Junior's show. Even if he didn't do the Bharatanatyam dance or come up with the idea of Xuan Yi doing it, he was also guilty of approving Xuan Yi of doing the Bharatanatyam dance mockingly with a Charlie Chaplin moustache, didn't hold her and the other girls accountable and participating in the same performance as Xuan Yi.
Misogynistic title track controversy (GGB scandal with Eunhyuk). Korean fans have brought up the misogynistic connotations behind the word, accusing Super Junior D&E of not being mindful. The title of the song (GGB) is a phrase used when calling a woman, but it is a derogatory one. It is not completely a curse word, and there are instances where it is used amongst girls themselves or mother-daughters in a joking way, but it is similar to when some words can be used jokingly amongst the same race, but are considered racist for others to use. [Jijibae (GGB)] is a word that modern women are averse to, and it is especially unpleasant when it is used by a man. 10 to 15 years ago, it was more commonly used with the meaning of ābad woman,ā. The word ājijibaeā in Korean originates from the word āgyejibae,ā which loosely translates to āwench.ā While it can be used to refer to a woman or girl, it holds derogatory meaning and disrespect.
Ryeowook:
Made fun of VIXX's N skin colour.
Put Yesung's blackface photo as his Twitter profile picture and laughed at Yesung's blackface
Choreographed and participated in a racist dance to mock Indians and portray them as "snake charmers" (With Yesung, Shindong, Sungmin, Eunhyuk, and Kyuhyun). Ryeowook did a dance move to look like a snake being hypnotized by Sungmin and Eunhyuk's flutes.
Wore a Native American headband.
Kyuhyun:
Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes to which Kyuhyun retorted āThat scenario must have looked like a drug deal.ā.
Harassed Goo Hara and Jessica for dating on Radio Star. He called Goo Hara a "slut", and said that if she gets pregnant her career will be over and if he opens his mouth again her career will be over. He asked Jessica many inappropriate questions and made her and other SNSD members uncomfortable, especially Tiffany. Every time Kyuhyun said something bad about Jessica, Tiffany defended Jessica and scolded him.
Thought India was uncivilized. So, he brought a spoon to Indian because he thought there were no spoons in India.
Liked tweets that criticized Changmin and Chen's marriages.
Choreographed and participated in a racist dance to mock Indians and portray them as "snake charmers" (With Yesung, Shindong, Sungmin, Eunhyuk, and Ryeowook).
Wore a Native American headband.
When Joohoney stereotypically imitated how black people talk on Radio Star, Kyuhyun laughed.
After news went out that Hangeng had filed for provisional disposition of the contract with SM Entertainment, Kyuhyun wrote on his CyWorld account on 21st December after the news about Hangeng came out, āEven a beast donāt bite the hand that feeds oneā¦I can not understandā expressing his disappointment about it.
Kyuhyun and other Radio Star hosts bullied Jiyoung (KARA) because they forced her to do aegyo but she couldn't.
Henry:
Kissed Yewon's thigh while carrying her on his shoulders on "We Got Married". This caused people to call him a pervert.
Revealed that when he first met his members, he thought all of them were gay and thought Heechul was trans and said those things worried him.
Persuaded Jackson (GOT7) to accompany him in going into the girl's room without permission and rifling through their stuff on episode 45 of SBS Roomate.
Used a stereotypical Indian accent to mock Indians, pretended to be Saruman, and thought Indian and Arab cultures were the same. A genie lamp was edited into the video.
Defended Yesung's blackface by commenting on Yesung's blackface post on Instagram. He commented, "If this is racist. then thor wearing the blonde wig is also racist. c o s p l a y .".
Henry and his crew culturally appropriated black hairstyles in his "I'm Good" MV.
Supported China's movement of claiming territories in the South China Sea (same with Zhoumi).
Super Junior (ģķ¼ģ£¼ėģ“), also known asĀ SJĀ orĀ SuJu, is a South KoreanĀ 14 member band debuted in 2005 by SM Entertainment.Ā
This is Nara relationship headcanons with other members.
LEETEUK ā Ā
hardly spoke to him at first
answered yes or no to questions and kept her opinion to herself
didn't want to worry him or be a burden to the team
she knew how hard it was to be a leader, she didn't want to make his job harderĀ
and he always asked her what she thought, what she wanted and if she needed anythingĀ
he felt he was doing something wrong and was a bad leaderĀ
to this day asks if she's home, just in caseĀ
(this has been going on since she lived with SNSD)
sometimes he just calls her randomly to see how things are
and he doesn't get angry that she doesn't answer him in the group because he knows that itās not even possible to download the application on the phone she has
they got closer when Super Junior stopped being temporary
she started giving him headaches because she'd run away from the manager to go clubbing with him and Heechul
speaking of him and Heechul...
one day at JULIANAās, she suggested to the three of them to have a triple kissĀ
Heechul laughing like he never did before
Leeteuk almost had a heart attack
she had seen it in a western series and wanted to try itĀ
and they did š
she hated the triple kiss but they laugh about it to this dayĀ
in fact, she was the first to know that Leeteuk was also attracted to menĀ
she didn't know what to say and joked āyou deserve the attention of both genders anywayā, showing that she supported him no matter whatĀ
but that was the starting point for her to study LGBT rights and the struggle of the movement, always saying broadly that she supports them, even if she has to face hate afterwards
she knows itās important
back to her and LeeteukĀ
they've fought a few times
not like Incheon
but we know that their personalities are quite conflicting
especially when she decided to go on hiatusĀ
they fought a lotĀ
the whole group foughtĀ
Leeteuk has always been afraid of the group disbanding, even today
and he's still a bit resentful of that time, but they eventually got back on trackĀ
in fact, everything from 2014-2016 is complicated (for both of them)
but they know they love each other
whenever she's mentioned in a variety show or interview, he gets a puppy dog look on his faceĀ
talks about being proud of the woman she became
mom vibes
now that he has learned to cook, he's noticed that she's calling him to her house more often
... and he goes, because he likes company
so he cooks for herĀ
and asks her to find him a wifeĀ
āI thought you were the MC who knew all the groupsāĀ
āBut if they hear it from you, theyāll like me moreā
and speaking of MCs, we know he has MC diseaseĀ
she hates it when the two of them are alone, without cameras, and he starts talking like he's an MC
she doesn't hate the fact that he does it
she hates the fact that, without meaning to, she does it too
and speaking of cameras
even though she's very privateĀ
sometimes she appears in his lives as a special guestĀ
says hi and goes back to what she was doing beforeĀ
HEECHUL āĀ
can fight with D&E for the best brotp of the groupĀ
the only super junior member who is part of beehive
so iāll talk about him there
see the BEEHIVE
HANGENG āĀ
became close friends after Kyu's accident
she was incorporated in HanChul friendshipĀ
but she always joked that it wasnāt JUST a friendship
āi feel i'm third wheelingā
Heechul would yell āYA, PUNKā and Hangeng would laugh
one of the first people she called oppa
tried to help him cook when Heechul had his accident
she almost set fire to the kitchenĀ
so it was decided that her job would simply be to chat while he cooked
without touching anything
she would ask him to teach her swear words in chineseĀ
and sometimes they would communicate in chinese so others wouldn't understand what they were saying
(but then they learned it because of super junior-m and she had to stop)
liked to play wrestle with him because he knew martial artsĀ
she asked him to teach herĀ
āI have to learn to defend myself!ā
and then picked on the other members
āyou created a monsterā they all say in unison to Hangeng
had a very fatherly attitude towards her
he was older and that meant he had to ātake care of herā
Heechul was too, but we know HeechulĀ
Hangeng was the first to know she liked KyuhyunĀ
ādon't let Heechul discover this, he'll end my lifeā
āmy lips are sealedā
one day, he asked her and Heechul if they would miss him
neither of them understood
but she does, a lot
misses his smileĀ
his accentĀ
the jokes
they are still friends today and she was present at his wedding
but the longing is something that won't go away
he jokes that she took all his dance spacesĀ
and the lines in the old songs
that she should be happy
she knows how much he suffered and that it wasn't fair what they did to him
when he finally left, he said that she was one of the best gifts he had in KoreaĀ
fans made several edits of the fatherly way he treated her before and how he treated her at Ryeowook's wedding when they met again
still calls him Hankyung Oppa :(((
YESUNG āĀ
triggering them by putting them in friendships when they both wanted to be in the ārelationshipsā topic
but we know it's complicatedĀ
they started out super hostile (Yesung's fault)
Nara accidentally overheard his conversation with Leeteuk and discovered he might not be in Super Junior
after Leeteuk left, she said that he was very talented and she knew he'd be in the group with them
Yesung didnāt talk to her until they won the first place award with U
like straight up ignore her and turn away
they wouldnāt be alone in the same room
and didn't exchange sentences beyond āwhat time is practice?ā
the group almost sent them both to Intimate Note
Sungmin x Kangin, Heechul x Eunhyuk, Yesung x Nara - who was the most awkward?Ā
they became friends in 2008 after he fell almost 2 meters from the platform at the KBS rehearsal and had to be hospitalized
she cried a lot, with flashbacks of what happened to Kyuhyun, but he was fineĀ
and they became āfriendsā
less than two months later she kissed him when she was very drunk and said she wanted to be with him... which he thought was one sided
but the she had a blackout and couldn't remember what happened the day before
he didn't have the courage to tell her
regrets it to this dayĀ
regrets it very muchĀ
because she started going out with Kyuhyun at the end of 2009 and they started dating
and any display of anything other than friendship would have led to a huge fight in the group, which Yesung preferred to avoidĀ
Kibum and Hangeng left the group and Yesung didnāt want them to disbandĀ
so they stayed friends
very close friends
she started swearing and the members blamed Yesung
she went with him to get his tattoosĀ
and every time he got a tattoo, she got an ear piercing
the most stylish, they always share accessoriesĀ
and whenever he sees a piece of jewelry he thinks he'll like, he buys it for her.Ā
and fans think they're dating because of the couple's accessoriesĀ
it also doesn't help that she always ranks him #1 when asked about whoās prettier in super juniorĀ
and that she's the only one who calls him Jonghoon Oppa
and looks at her with that smitten look when she makes a joke on a showĀ
until she makes fun of him on said show, then the smile disappears
let's face it, she's part of the SUPER JERRIES (Kyuhyun, Eunhyuk, Ryeowook and Nara) and makes fun of TOM (Yesung) at every opportunity
poor guy
sometimes he texts her at dawn and she replies
and always appears in the photos he takes
his stories are full of herĀ
and she laughs at his most unfunny jokes
but they are also in the difficult moments of each other's livesĀ
when yesung stops eating, she's the first to notice
sometimes they cry together because of itĀ
and she was his emergency contact, before his family moved to seoulĀ
and she almost got into a physical fight with one of his exes who cheated on himĀ
so whenever he shows up with a girlfriend, Nara becomes almost a watchdogĀ
ā¦Ā
jealousy?Ā
she'll never reveal that he was her first crush in the groupĀ
if she did, the YeNa shippers would go crazyĀ
but the behavior within the group would never be the same again
i mean, after what happened between them in 2024
(they hooked up and a month later she ran back to Kyuhyun)
(āso I was just your bachelor party sex before getting married?ā)
itās never going to be the same againĀ
asked her to call him Yesung like the others
iāll explain this later
pray for this boy
KANGIN āĀ
THEY ALWAYS DROVE THE SHIPPERS CRAZYĀ
THE KANARA SHIPPERS ARE WELL FEED THANK YOUĀ
it was the first ship she had in the group
this man didnāt even try to hide his favoritismĀ
he loved it when she appeared on the variety shows he hosted
others MCs hated her because they would be crackheads together
he was one of the first to make her feel part of the group, since she and Kyuhyun were super outcastsĀ
made her feel free on TV and with the boysĀ
and the first ship was bornĀ
edits with the MVs, performances and variety shows with romantic songs were being posted on Youtube and vimeo
when he flirted with the girls in Full House, memes of Naraās face would go viral
they are the kings of memes, even before āmemeā became something known
they practically started a prank vlog back when there was no vlog
it was an online segment where they pranked the other membersĀ
a fan favorite was one of the final episodes where they pretended to be pranking Heechul, but they were actually pranking her
but only super junior can pick on her, otherwise he'll get mad
in fact, there's no need to pick on her at all, just any sign that she's uncomfortable
or when another group flirts with her
extremely protectiveĀ
calls her āgongjunimā (princess)
when he had his first DUI, she was very upset and had to distance herself from him - not because of the media, but because she was trying to digest what had happened
he went to the military
when he came back, they started the Super Junior-N&K unitĀ
THE BEST UNIT!!!!
the two of them overflowing with sensuality
all the other ships were put on hold because the amount of COUPLE they screamed was beyond reality
their voices complemented each other and they danced well togetherĀ
there was even a kiss in December 2015 at the unit's last concertĀ
(nobody knew it was going to be unit's last concert)Ā
(lie, Nara already knew she was going on hiatus in 2016, but didn't tell anyone)
(and then Kangin's second DUI happened and he left the group)
they remained friends after that, no matter whatĀ
she had already lost idol friends who killed themselves after the media hate and she wasn't going to let that happen again
she has always been very vocal about remaining friends with himĀ
and that he's dealing with his alcohol problem
that it doesn't take the blame off him but she understands that if they talked about it more in Korea many accidents like this could be avoided
photos of them together during her hiatusĀ
and even when she came back to the media, she still went out with himĀ
doesnāt care about media opinion
jokes that the only thing she won't do with him is go camping
she refusesĀ
he was very protective of her, always, very affectionate and important
she feels good that she can return the same support to him now
she cries talking about him in interviews and concerts
SHINDONG ā
theyāve had their ups and downsĀ
and i say SUPER ups and SUPER downs
because they used to have a balanced relationship
he has said that even after 20 years he still gets a bit akward with some membersĀ
and doesn't like to eat alone with some of them
so in the beginning they stayed in their own corner
and only interacted when accompanied by the other members
they made music together in super junior-happy and trot, but it was when she joined the dance line that they got closer
they started going out more to eat
and whenever they traveled, they wanted to go to different restaurants - even though he doesn't like food with a lot of flavor (he said this in Studio Hook)
and she's always been an advocate of him being beautifulĀ
itāsĀ extremely dishonest when they say it's not because of his weightĀ
he's not even as fat as they say
and even if he were, it wouldn't be a problem
āat least his foot touches the ground when he's sitting in a chairā she says eyeing Ryeowook
but remember that she also thinks Eunhyuk is beautifulĀ
and there's literally a 10 minute compilation on youtube of all the times he's been called uglyĀ by the members
so āinvalid opinionā
sometimes she had ideas for the clips or the choreography, even for the costumes
she has always been a very creative person
he encouraged her to express herself
some of the ideas were incorporated
and sheās really grateful
he always thought she was one of the most talented people in the group
an ACE in all fields of entertainment
but then they ended up having a serious fight in 2014
shortly after her fight with SiwonĀ
learn more in the ep 259 of Knowing Bros
they didn't speak to each other for monthsĀ
only started talking again shortly before he enlistedĀ
when he came back, she was on hiatusĀ
he really missed the creativity she brought to the groupĀ
so, shortly after the pandemic started, she sent him a message āI've got an ideaā
and the first drafts of Sabbatical Serenade appearedĀ
he asked her to stay at his house for a few days to develop the series further
those ādaysā turned into months
they wrote, composed, made story boards for all the songs, wrote the script, thought about costumes and there really isn't anything that didn't came from both of themĀ
now, he's sure she's the best of her generationĀ
whatever she says, he signs off on
SUNGMIN ā
everyone thought theyād get alongĀ
heās more feminine, likes pink, is delicate
which would be ideal in befriending the only woman in the group, right?Ā
no
in fact, Nara has never had much interest in these āfeminineā things
and being the only woman in a male group, she had to adapt herself to feel more includedĀ
so they werenāt closeĀ
but when she started dating Kyu
he had to keep it a secret that they were sleeping together
and they promised to not have sex or too much pda while he was in the room
and even after helping to keep it a secret
had to attend the sex education class
wanted to kill them both (everyone wanted)
āyouāre buying me dinner afterwardsā
and they didĀ
they became relationship-driven friends, so she was the one he would talk about girls
she listened to everything and tried to help himĀ
when he started to came up with so many serious questions in 2013/2014, she knew something was different
she understand the situation of Sungminās fans but thinks the members should have handled it differently
after all, they all understand what itās like for idols to date and get married
and, because in 2014 she had already fought with Shindong and Siwon, Leeteuk was giving her a hard time and everything was shit, she sided with SungminĀ
went with him to buy Saeunās wedding ring since his mother was busy and he wanted a female opinion
she did her best to go to the wedding, but unfortunately she couldnāt make it
he understandsĀ
after all, she helped him with so many other things at such a difficult timeĀ
they've drifted apart a lot since it all happened
but theyāre very found of each other
they got back in touch in 2025 (after recording a surprise song)
EUNHYUK āĀ
another very famous ship among fansĀ
and almost made Lee SooMan have a heart attackĀ
because ok, she has ships with everyone in the group (this inevitably happens being the only woman)Ā
but they kissed at the D&E concert in 2014
they decided to do it after rehearsing the duo routineĀ
and kept it a secret, so Donghae's expressions on stage became a memeĀ
it went viral on youtube in korea (and the tickets sold out)
that's probably the only reason they didn't get cursed at SM
and they're kings of dance
do you remember the dance from evanesce? sorry sorry answer? i think i?Ā
he loves doing couple dances with her
(and the fans love it too)Ā
but for those who know them, they're very far from being a couple
they seem much more like little brothers who get together to make fun of Yesung
fills her cell phone with messages asking her to record dance trends
she doesnāt have tiktokĀ
they recorded UP N DOWN for his profileĀ
supergirl and other groupās songs too
because he and Kyuhyun share a dorm for so long, whenever she needs to know something about Kyuhyun, she would ask Hyukjae
then she pretends to act clueless, as if she didnāt care
and maybe that's why he's one of the few people who knew that they had āgotten back togetherā in 2015
didn't tell either of them he knew
he respects her a lot and pretends he doesn't notice these things
and whenever the MCs did something that was uncomfortable for her, he would interrupt right away
like when they tried to arrange a date between Kyuhyun and a girl from Girl's Day in 2014
he knew she couldnāt say anything and took the role of flirt
because he didnāt care about being dumped and becoming the center of the joke
she put herself in the line of fire when there was the IU controversy in 2012
stood by him when shit went downhill
he wants to protect her
and she respects him a lot for everything he did while Leeteuk was away and his ability to produce huge showsĀ
she also really loves his smileĀ
the gummy smile!!!
heās the #2 in her beauty scale when going in variety shows
he only lose to YesungĀ
(and to Kyuhyun, but she couldnāt say this publicly)Ā
they are just silly togetherĀ
DONGHAE āĀ
he was very embarrassed that she was in the groupĀ
because she was the only girlĀ
he didn't know how to talk to herĀ
didn't want to treat her like a brother
but he also didn't want to treat her the way he treated women, because it was too respectful for the group
so a secret third option
when he saw her and Heechul drunk kissing for the first time he almost had a seizureĀ
when she and Kangin played pranks on him, he didn't rest until he'd returned the prank
and we know that he only looks like a saint
every time he tried to return a prank, the butterfly effect made the group fight
and in the end he was the one who ended up cryingĀ
which led to the famous phrase
ābe careful, donghae is going to cryā
she doesn't know how many times she has said it
when the members said they were leaving, when the group threatened to break up or when everyone got into a fight
have you ever seen that boy? he really cried
for her, he's the maknae of the groupĀ
and she'll fight to defend himĀ
... but can we talk about how much he's matured since the beginning of super junior?Ā
became a great manĀ
so much that she chose him as the member she would let her daughter date (after saying none because they were all too old)
but he's still a bit possessiveĀ
so Nara always has to work out with him at the gym
if she goes with someone else, he gets upset
he posts photos and videos of the two of them working outĀ
she always swears at him because he looks HOT in the pictures and she's sweating with messy hair, almost dying
he treats her like he's never treated anyone else
really a secret third option
they're good friendsĀ
mainly because they're part of the dance lineĀ
and having spent so much time in D&E
but unlike Eunhyuk, he ends up being very slow-wittedĀ
and doesn't realize some thingsĀ
so it's easier for her to hide things from him and lie
he gets sad when he realize
but that's part of it
SIWON āĀ
everyone is SURE theyāre dating
and weāre suppose to judge them?Ā
there are hundreds of compilations of the two of them being the kings of physical touch
Ryeowook hates them
āSTOP GIVING ME HIGH FIVESā
while she is ready to raise her hand or pat him as soon as the joke happens
there are tons of videos of them overreacting together, cuddling, him twirling her around during practice or just holding her for whatever reasonĀ
and thatās what they let be recorded
sometimes he likes to be the little spoon :)Ā
calls him Wonnie OppaĀ
and he's the only one who doesn't pick on her, he only gives positive commentsĀ
treats her well and defends her, trying to maintain a pure vision of Nara - even after it had already been destroyed
in the beginning, he always covered her eyes when something suggestive happened
but after she āgrew upā, he started covering his own eyes so he wouldn't see what she was doing
he really tried to force her to maintain her character of purity, but then he gave up
he's a man of god and, as much as she refuses to go to church with him, he has learned never to judge people
he knows her character, her inner self, and he knows she's a good person
and as much as they've fought a few times - an event they won't tell you about in any interview - because he's homophobic and she's extremely pro-lgbtĀ
especially after she found out about leeteuk
and him saying that he's like that because he has āvaluesā, something different from what she knows
referring to her kisses on stage, dances and dating history
which caused them to fight for a while in 2014
and lead to shindongās fight too
but after drinking a lot, he asked her to be his friend again, that he understood what she was going through
he almost begged
and they got back together
they like to drink
whisky, wine, the best of everythingĀ
he always gives her the most expensive drinks as presents
including in 2023, when he almost had a heart attack but congratulated her for the new seriesĀ
and, like the rich man he is, he takes her to play golfĀ
RYEOWOOK āĀ
every time she used to be in the dorm, would ask him to cookĀ
it was the best food she would have in daysĀ
because no matter how much she asked other members to cook, his food was always the best
love it to this day
she almost asks to go to his and Ariās house just to eatĀ
he says āyou have your own houseā
she makes a sad face and he lets her go
but only sometimes
a bit reservedĀ
he hates it when she touches himĀ
even before any of them had a relationshipĀ
if he fought Siwon, why wouldn't he fight her?Ā
and he holds grudges
he'll openly tell some of her dirt on the shows
āthree years ago she XXXā
the two of them bickering all the timeĀ
they roast each otherĀ
because she NEEDS to make him mad
even now, more mature, it's almost a duty for her
mentions on every show that he showers naked
makes fun of the faces he makesĀ
and that he likes giraffes because he wanted to be tall like them
on the variety shows, the discussion always escalatesĀ
āAND STOP TOUCHING MEā
he must have done something wrong in his past life to have to put up with herĀ
but he's also the only one who can say anything bad about herĀ
otherwise he'll give them his judgmental look and attack
KIBUM āĀ
the maknae line actors
they made a drama together in 2008
they had one kissĀ
(which was cut out to preserve her good girl image at the time, because she hosted a kid's show)
but the boys make fun of him to this day
he prays every night for them to leave him aloneĀ
he almost got beaten up by Kyuhyun because of itĀ
and he didn't even do anything!
forget it!Ā
they can barely stand side by sideĀ
and the worst part is that they're still friends
at the beginning of the group, he would ask her for help when he was talking to a girlĀ
because heās handsome, one of the visuals, but is always sooooo awkward
they still meet up to talk sometimes
not to talk about women (which Nara has already tried to set him up on a few blind dates) but about life
...
don't let the super junior boys know about thisĀ
or they'll talk about the kiss againĀ
poor thingĀ
he suffered so much at the hands of her and Kangin with the pranks
and then suffered at the hands of all the other members with the kissĀ
the woman is almost married and they're still making fun of poor KibumĀ
and his fear of being beaten by Kyuhyun continues
KYUHYUN āĀ
WHAT TO SAY ABOUT KYUHYUN
I don't think just a few sentences here can sum up what their relationship have been
but I'm not just going to put it in the romance thread eitherĀ