I figure you have already talked about it, but who do you think Valss was, exactly? Do you think he was a Jedi, a Sith, a renegade Zakuul Knight, a member of the Cult of Zildrog or something else?
Ah, Valss. My mysterious little Valss⦠I was just thinking about him the other day, and once again was puzzling over the great mysteries he left behind, including:
Exactly where the heck doesĀ he fall on the lovely scale above???
And the reason I ask that, is it was still a little unclear to me after re-examining the canon, and playing through Copero and the final boss fight several times, what were Valssās true motivations.
Thanks to 5.9, we do now have a slightly clearer picture of the order of events and who the true mastermind is (spoiler: itās GEMINI 16 aka, our little explorer bot we got a mail about after KotFE Chapter 16), and as far as I can tell, the Chiss explicitly became involved in the Orderās plans after Umbara, after they got their Adegan crystals for⦠yeah, I stillĀ havenāt parsed that one. Thereās a lot of dangling plot threads Iām still trying to puzzle out.
But in the short story on the dev blogs, Chasing Copero, Theron meets with a contact in an alley who got her info on the location of Valkyās starmap from her spy girlfriend whoās grandad was part of the team that did a little raid on Sith assets for a little insurance.
(As an aside, I love that in the KotFE+ stuff they are taking such care to try and fill the galaxy with LGBT folks ā„ even with the background characters. Itās a subtle, but nice touch.)
Thereās a bunch of Chiss politics going on:
āWorks for me. Files say the Mitth family runs things on Copero. Is that right?ā
Pova shook her head again. āTheir shipbuilding business has hit some hard times. House Inrokini bailed them out with a huge investment, so theyāre the real power these days. Not that Mitth advertises the fact, of course.ā
āSounds like I need to make some friends from Inrokini, then.ā
Most of what I know of the Chiss politics and the cultural structure comes from @andverygingerā, so feel free to take what I say with a grain of salt because Iāve probably misunderstood a few things here and there and could be wiiiildly off-base.
There are several ruling houses in the Ascendancy, and Mitth IĀ think was supposed to be one of the more powerful ones in this time. Theyāre big on chess games and maintaining appearances, so itās possible thereās always something just a little more than meets the eye initially when it comes to dealing with the Chiss societyĀ (I think?).
But the gist is, Theron decides he needs to make some friends within House Inrokini, and so he sells someĀ āAlliance secretsā (which I bet was some intel that looked interesting on the surface but was mostly harmless) to Zenta, the Syndic of House Inrokini.Ā Ambient dialogue from Saganu (that you hear during one of the bonus missions) indicates sheās been collecting both Alliance and Ascendancy secrets forĀ āsome timeā, something Theron likely knew about and exploited to get in. This also indicates Zentaās power play and rogue status within the Ascendancy is not a new thing, it just finally caught up to her here. Which also brings us to Valss.
Valss:
Aristocra Saganu - Commander, I must warn you: years ago, Zenta risked her status to adopt a powerful Force-sensitive into her family.
Aristocra Saganu - The Chiss consider Force-users to be contaminated, impure. Without Zentaās support, Valss would be banishedāor worse.
Player - You know how to make me feel welcome. /Ā Player - So heāll protect her to the end.
Aristocra Saganu - Youāre an exception, Commander. Youāve made the Chiss proud. But Valss is dangerousāexpect a formidable enemy. /Ā Aristocra Saganu - Valss is unstable, and fights to the death for what he believes in. Expect a formidable enemy.
It looked like Valss was originally written as Zentaās biological brother, but at launch this was changed for Valss to be a merit adoptive. So, the question of Valssās birth origin, as well as how Saganu knows justĀ how unstable and fanatical he is is an interesting question, which Iāll float an interesting theory @andveryginger came up with in a bit.
But it looks like the gist is, once Valssās Force Sensitivity was discovered, he was about to be banished or killed, when Zenta swooped in to bring him into her fold. Considering all of her actions so far have been shown to be a clever calculation and part of some larger chess game to āprotect her people and keep House Inrokini safeā, indicates she saw some use in him (and is probably less driven out of a sense of compassion for someone who is on the verge of losing everything).
He clearly has very advanced Force training, and is extremelyĀ strong in the Force, and seems to also have Force visions which Iām guessing lends into his fanaticism. My best guess is that Zenta earns Valssās fanatical loyalty by taking him in and giving him a place when he feels like heās been cast out, and then likely finds a way to get him trained so he can use his natural talents for her when the time comes.Ā
I suspect that whatever training Valss went through it was not through the normal channels of Jedi/Sith, or even Zakuul. He demonstrates a lot of raw power and mastery in his fight, but not necessarily a lot of discipline, and swaps between Force powers and regular weapons throughout the fight. Itās also indicated that Zentaās top people put a great amount of stock in whatever vision Valss had, which indicates to me that even as Chiss they had some amount of trust in him despite him being an ickle impure Force Sensitive.
So what the heck was up with ValssāsĀ āvisionā anyway? Like, I was confused when the Copero flashpoint first dropped, because the more I looked at everything, the more vague everything was. Valssās vision is never actually stated outright. Zenta says that he had a vision ofĀ āShanās victoryā, and this is what Valss himself has to say:
So on the surface this seems to indicate that Valss and Theron are total bros and are saving the galaxy together, right? That Valss is just wanting to stop the apocalypse as well? Except⦠Theronās body language and facial expressions during the first scene seem to indicate otherwise.
He breaks character when Valss canāt see his face, his expression drops, and he looks torn and scared. But exactly what about? Failing and the vision not being true? Or the visions comingĀ true? Because whatever it is, he doesnāt want to share that with Valss. His tr8r mask slides back in place before he turns back to face our Force!Chiss and he makes a vague statement that he hopes Valssās vision is trueĀ āfor all our sakesā. I mean, that could seriously be taken either way.
Theron stated in Nathema Conspiracy that heās trying to stall the Orderās plan and get the Alliance intel at this point, and itās also heavily implied that his every word and move is being monitored by GEMINI 16. Does her surveillance powers extend to the Chiss Ascendancy?Ā
If they do, then sheās listening to every word being said, and heās not going to risk his ability to get intel back to the Alliance by goingĀ āYEAH FUCK ZILDROG LETāS TAKE HIM DOWNā if Valssās vision was about Theronās success in saving the galaxy from Zildrog. If thatās the case, thenĀ that would mean that Valss is pro-apocalypse and his fanaticism is about striking back at something, possibly the Ascendancy for casting him out. This means Theronās āI hope thatās trueā is part of his tr8r schtick.
However if GEMINI 16 isnātĀ monitoring Theron while heās on Copero, does that mean Valss got this intense Force vision of Theron saving the galaxy and heās ultimately a good guy whoās just like reallyĀ intense and maybe vaguely creepy/flirty in the way he stares at his fellow galactic saviors? Then it means heās actually not vaguely double-speaking here and is truly hoping that Valssās vision of victory means that everyone doesnāt die horribly.
Like seriously WHAT IS THIS VISION and how does Valss explain it to everyone around him so theyāre allĀ āyeah, letās just leave Zenta to rot, sounds awesome! Escape!helicopter tiiiiiime!ā
Look I know itās a shuttle but I need someone in Star Wars at some point to sayĀ āGET TO THE CHOPPA NOW!ā let me have this plz
But, thereās some cut dialogue that wasnāt used (meaning itās technically not canon), that honestly clears absolutely nothingĀ up:
Like seriously, I read it once and Iām likeĀ āOh, that indicates Valss is coo coo for cocoa puffsā and wants to set everything ablaze, but then I read it again and Iām likeĀ āWait, Zenta indicates that Valss doesnāt understand the danger theyāre inā, but then Valss is like āWhy are you hesitating Shaaaaan?ā and we know Theron is on the anti-apocalypse end of the spectrum so why would he be hesitating in front of someone that fanatically believes in him because a Force vision said that everything would be hunky dory?
(I mean, beyond TheronāsĀ āwho needs the Force?ā hangups.)
His boss barks too are something of note (the white text Iām less sure of is in the game⦠but hey, Iāll share anyway), and while they are still ambiguous āheā, āweā, Iām taking this to mean someoneās drunk the Zildrog Culty Kool-Aid:
(āHeā could be Theron ā but it could also be Zildrog.)
Like, honestly, you could pick just about any headcanon for Valssās motivations and thereās enough canonical evidence we have in hand at the moment to back it up. In other words:
ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Personally, Iām going to take Saganu at his word that Valss is completely unhinged, and I suspect that he lies closer to the Zildrog end of the apocalypse spectrum. Saganuās dialogue seems to indicate that ValssĀ is fanatical about causes, not people, which explains his kind of creepy lingering stares at Theron during the holomap scene are motivated more by his glee at seeing his plans realized ā and less because he wants to get into Theronās pantsĀ because jfc fandom not everything is about sex
And for what itās worth,Ā Wookieepedia seems to think heās part of the Order of Zildrog too.Ā
Feel free to pick your own motivation and interpretation of him, because unless Charles Boyd, Timothy Zahn, or any of the other writers clarify, itās going to remain a mystery.
Oh, and speaking of that⦠;)
Valssās Origins
Letās circle back to the mystery of Valssās origins, because it seemed fairly straight-forward, that is, until the livestream with the devs and Zahn from earlier this year. Now again, Iām not really all that hip to the nuance of Chiss stuff, but even I got a little confused that when the question came up about Zenta, Valss, and Saganuās full names, they declined to answer that question on the grounds that their complete names could be revealed in the future.
I was chatting with @andverygingerā at the time, and sheās a big Saganu fan and was likeĀ āWait⦠we knowĀ Saganuās name!ā and when I asked if it was stated in canon (because again, I still need to finish the IA storyline), she said no, but that it should have been easily inferred from his background revealed in the Vanilla!IA storyline and the composition of Chiss names.
So in theory, Saganuās full Chiss name should be: Miurani'saga'nuruodoĀ ā but why is that a mystery? Why is Zentaās a mystery? And why is Valssās one?
Thereās apparently this obscure concept thatās been used maybe once or twice in Legends regarding Chiss society, and thatās the concept of a Shadow Child. An extra child or heir born into important families as aĀ āspareā to keep family bloodlines from being wiped out by rivals. That means thereās a small possibility that revealing the full name of Valss (and Zenta by extension) would reveal that he might be a blood relation of Saganuās. Because remember Saganuās description of him?
Sure that intel could have come from intel of spying on rival families or just ordinary Chiss prejudice against Force users, but man, that almost sounds like personal knowledge/experience speaking to me.Ā
If Valss was Saganuās biological relative (possibly brother), considering all of the twisty and entangled web of Chiss politics that I can barely begin to really comprehend, their societyās disdain for the āimpurityā ofĀ Force Sensitives (to the point of exiling or āworseā), and the fact that Zenta goes out of her way to bring him into her fold for mysterious, likely political reasons ā it would be a recipe for political disaster ā especially if this rogue family member went off and did something stupid like join an Apocalypse cult and risk all of the Ascendancy dying in flames.
However, the livestream indicated that there might be more Chiss-centric stuff coming in the future. My best guess is likely not in the upcoming expansion, since theyāve stated over and over the focus is Republic vs Empire (and not focused on a third party, ie: the Chiss), and after the events of of Copero no matter what happens, the Chiss political arena gets a little heated and they have to withdraw from Alliance stuff.Ā
So itās likely the mystery of Valss, his stupid vague vision, and his origins will not be answered for some time.











