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In this little post of mine iām gonna be telling you the story of how Mikeās disappearance is gonna go in S5 through the perspective of the Hellfire DND game, which represents the Rightside Up/The Partyās POV, and an album which can be directly associated as the Upside Down/Henryās POV of the same events, revealing how all of this is actually gonna go down in the show.
I know you guys all know what DND game Iām talking about, so Iāll introduce you to a little album called Under the Influence by Overkill from 1988.
In order to connect this album to the DND game, you have to look at the design of the cover here. The most prominent feature is the giant skull with horns and bat wings, right? When you go to look at the set up for Eddieās DND stuff, there are two stickers:
Both of those have the exact same symbol: a skull with horns and bat wings. What makes these stickers unique is the lightning bolt behind them, which isnāt in the 1988 cover (the first time this mascot ever gets used). The only character we can directly associate with actual lightning is Henry. Yes, Will is sometimes associated with electricity in non-canon content, but Henry was literally struck by lightning in the show.
In the album, there are constant references to the invasion of the mind, being reborn, and there are a few mentions of needing to head for the light as well. This album is heavily coded as Henryās POV, but itās also tied to Eddie. Thatāll be important for later!!
Character Establishment
Ok, so before breaking down the DND game itself, let me explain which figurines represent which characters really quick.
Mike is represented by his paladin, obviously. Same with Dustin and his bard. Lucas, although he isnāt playing right now, is still being represented by the ranger on the table. I believe the figure Iāve associated with El is a mage, which also lines up because Mike declares her to be the Partyās mage in S2. As for Maxās figure, I donāt have any idea what class that figure is meant to be but the figure is prominently blue, which is a color heavily associated with Max in S4. I donāt know much about DND, so maybe I just donāt recognize the class, or there isnāt meant to be a recognizable class because Max is a zoomer.
Now, as for Will, I hate this just as much as everybody else will but I think heās being represented by the Vecna figure. For one, we know that Henry himself doesnāt really align with the description of the actual character of Vecna. More so, we never actually witness the Vecna figure attacking anyone. Itās implied, but the visual isnāt there which normally wouldnāt matter except that we do see the attack against one character; Mike. That attack doesnāt come from Vecna.
Most importantly, though, is the the design they chose for Vecnaās figure. There are many different versions they couldāve gone with but they chose the one where Vecnaās staff has the green in his staff. You know what that looks a lot like?
So, Will is being represented by the Vecna figure. Considering that this is all gonna play out in reality in the UD, that actually makes perfect sense because Will is sort of the Vecna of the UD, like how Henry is the Vecna of the RU. Theāre opposites.
As for why the actual Vecna, Henry, is being represented by another figure is something that can only be explained through telling this story. Same with Eddie. So, let me dust off this book I found in the corner and show you what Iām talking about.
The Vanishing
So, the DND game is reflecting the reality of S5 when the party decides to go after Vecna. DND games have always been used to predict events in the pasy, as we saw with theĀ āweird flowers in the caveā coming true in S2 and Hopperās cover-up story being exactly as described by how Mike and Lucas died in the S3 campaign. What I think it really important about this game, however, is the fact that the Hellfire game seems to be ending with a crawl. Crawls are used in DND to set up fights with monsters and take place on a set map, which is what the Hellfire Party goes through. There is a very deliberately set map for the end of this campaign.
Itās important to remember this, because 5x01 is called The Crawl. The Party is gonna be going after Henry pretty soon after Will/Mike reveals heās still alive. I donāt think theyāll jump into it immediately, but in terms of episodes theyāre either gonna be planning their attack or possibly setting it into motion in the first episode.Ā
Ā The meat of this section goes into two things; Mikeās dice roll and the third song from the album, Hello from the Gutter. After the Hellfire Party establishes that theyād fight Vecna to the death, the second scene is of Mike rolling the dice. Mikeās roll is actually given the same level of importance as Dustin and Ericaās rolls and itās shot very similarly too. Thereās one thing that all three of those scenes have in common, and itās the color of their dice. Those are the only times the red-on-black dice are used. Itās not a matter of who gets to roll them, but rather what the represent. What the r-o-b dice are confirming is that this will be happening in the future. Theyāre inherently predictive of incredibly important events. Although all of this is predictive, these three rolls are the most important by far because theyāre turning points in the story. So why is Mikeās included?
Letās really look at that scene. When Mike rolls his dice, we never see what number it lands on, unlike Dustin or Erica, but we know itās low enough toĀ ākillā him. Iām sure you can figure out a number that would be low enough to lead to a death, a number thatās important to the story, and a number they couldnāt show us. One.
When we look at the result of Mikeās dice roll, something weird happens.
This is actually the first time we can confirm that the dark sorcerer is Henry, because that first image places the Overkill symbol directly above the dark sorcerer and even has the lightning bolt pointing directly at it. In the perspective of the RU, both Henry and Mikeās deaths are implied. Mikeās death is implied verbally and Henryās is implied on the board. So, Iām actually gonna consult the lighting to explain this.Ā
When you look at the lighting of this scene and compare it to the lighting for the other scenes of the DND sequence, this lighting is significantly darker with much heavier shadows. Many times throughout the show, we can associate the lighting of a scene changing into something darker with an illusion occurring. The perspective of the RU is being distorted. In actuality, both Mike and Henry are very much so alive. So whatās the point of having the paladin up while the sorcerer goes down? Look at where the paladin is standing. The paladin is in the shadow, in the darkness. The sorcerer is in the light. The darkness is showing the reality, where Mike is alive. The light is showing what the Party sees. Henry is associated with darkness and light is associated with Will. It comes together perfectly when you consider that our perspective of the events of Willās vanishing in S1 is warped too. Just like how Willās perspective was distorted then, itās distorted again so heās being shown Mike and Henryās deaths, but Henryās perspective shows the truth.
In that case, what actually happened? Thatās where we turn to the album, which tells us exactly how and why Mike disappeared.Ā
For the first two songs of the album, the perspective of Henry is established through lines like:
āDirty little rumor, circulating round... / Spreadin' like the plague. in every little town / Capturing the spirit! and goin' to the headā
āFrom the fire to the streets / I've seen it all... / I've melted in the heatā
There are, however, lines that donāt quite line up with the idea we have of Henry. Thatās where the connection to Eddie comes in. Obviously, there was a reason they decided to associate the album with Eddie rather than just placing it around in another way and that reason comes in when lyrics about being reborn start coming in.
āAnd then a brand new day! /Ā A chance to be reborn / I've seen another way / No time to sit and mournā
āDidn't want to sit and rotā³
Iād like to point at that it seems like Henryās body may very well have been rendered immobile due to being attacked by a molotov. Eddieās dead body was left in the UD, complete with no consciousness yet not decomposed either. Iām not saying itāll be permanent, but I do think that Henry may seek refuge in Eddieās body by becoming the consciousness that inhabits it. Thatās why Eddie is being so heavily associated with this piece of Henry; Henry is living in Eddieās body. Henry is living through Eddieās music taste much like he will be living through Eddie later on.Ā
This is important because the song I mentioned at the very beginning of this is the song that tells us how Mike was taken. Mike isnāt stupid enough to separate himself on purpose and there would be too many people around to protect him if Henry just tried to force his way towards Mike. He needs something that would lure Mike away from the others so he can capture them in an illusion and get Mike alone.
This song is a call to a teenager, repeating the phraseĀ āhello from our little hellā over and over. The story goes and has someone who survived the gutter live to tell the tale and beckon the child to join him. He even tell the child that theyāve been expecting him. I think Henry had called for Mike in Eddieās body and beckoned him away from the others, because of course Mike would follow Eddie if he thought heād found him. Mike has seen 3 people come back from the dead, itās not unbelievable that the same could happen for Eddie. Mike cares about his friends like no other, so if he needed to find Eddie he would.Ā
This might seem like a reach, but then Iād like to bring your attention back to that shot of Mikeās paladin and the dark sorcerer. The paladinās shadow reaches out and connects with the cultist who represents Eddie (or, rather, Henry in Eddieās body). The cultist is in the light, but is connected to the darkness by the paladinās shadow. Eddie is still, technically, Eddie in both the Partyās POV and Henryās POV, except before Mike is taken heās tricked into believing that Eddie is still Eddie inside and out, but the reality is that Eddie is only Eddie on the outside.Ā
Whatās most interesting is that I donāt actually think Mike was taken involuntarily. When I mentioned having a potential date for when Mike disappeared, I got that from @aemiron-mainā and his insight about the LOTR/ST parallels. One thing he informed me of was that a deal was made on April 6th to end the week of hell occurred. To set the timeline, the first death of S4 happens on March 22nd, then a week passes by and the show ends on March 29th. A week after that would be April 6th, leaving the hell that is the UD to rain on Hawkins. If Mike were to encounter Henry directly at his weakest, I think itās very in-character for him to try and find a way to put an end to all the chaos and protect his friends, family, and Hawkins. Mike has always wanted to do anything he could to protect people, and heās smart. If Henry wanted him for some reason, he would absolutely use that to his advantage somehow. Mike disappears after making a deal with Henry to put an end to the chaos and keep his family safe and Henry uses an illusion to convince everyone that both of them are dead.
The Experience
It doesnāt end there. Henry wouldnāt just end it because he has Mike, that makes no sense. Heās going to put Mike in a trance. Like I said, Henry doesnāt have the strength to maintain his own body and needs to recover. If he keeps Mike and doesnāt kill him, he can sap the strength from Mike slowly and consistently; those psychic connections give him power. He couldnāt kill Mike, because heād need him for later but he could use that trance state to keep Mike in place and heal himself. How do I know this? The first song that details how this trance is gonna play out is called Mad Gone World.Ā
āIn a world gone mad and thriving in the boundaries of your brain / Imprisoned in a world solely created for the purpose of a crunchā
This line heavily implies the idea of a trance because itās a world existing entirely in oneās brain, just like how the trance takes the world you know and puts it in a place only your brain can reach. Also, itās a little funny, but the āworld created for the purpose of a crunchā is literally what the point of the trances is. He creates them so he can connect with his victims and kill them, crunching their bones. Lmao
āWhat ya see and what ya feel / Are nothing nothing real / A visionary climax! / An imagery so clear / Losing touch or reason / Both quickly slip awayā
Again, more lyricism that equates to a trance-like state. We start to move more into what actually occurs during the trance, though. Mike slowly moves towards losing reason because heās being put in a trance, and seemingly for a very long time.Ā
āOne million minutes... / One million nights / One million dreams I've had! / And a million fights / Livin' in a mad gone world / Livin' blind / Livin' with this worldly madness / Just a state of mind / Just a state of mindā
One million minutes and nights implies just how long Mike is going to be in this trance. It seems like Mike is going to be tranced for the two year time skip, which is why this album is from 1988 and not 1986. Thereās also a great post here that explains why Mike being missing for the time skip makes sense narratively. A million dreams and fights implies undergoing tons of visions and such in this trance as well. Living blind is also a reference to the way that the vitcimsā eyes roll back when theyāre tranced. And, all of this stuff is occurring as a state of mind to Mike because itās happening in his head.Ā
The other song that walk us through his trance are called Brainfade and Drunken Wisdom. They arenāt as extensive as the other songs, but Brainfade is all about accusing someone of being a liar, saying theyāreĀ āfull of shitā and thereās also a short monologue that talks about Vegas and an RV which makes me think weāll at least be getting a call back to the van and a memory with the actual Eddie and theyāll be intertwined. It could possibly be how we find out about how Mike is queer. Maybe heāll relive the van scene and run out of the car and run to Eddieās RV out of instinct and then find Eddie and confront another aspect of his queerness right after. Just a possibility.
The final song that details his trance is called Drunken Wisdom, and this song covers the other things weāll likely see in Mikeās trance.Ā
āYour bitchin's a bore / Don't wanna hear it no... more / So stop cryin' / Ain't feelin' nothing for youā
Ā The first verse is all about getting someone to stop crying, that their bitching is a bore. That comes back to the way Mike doesnāt value his own feelings and believes his own opinions donāt matter, that his problems are lesser than.Ā
āSorry if I'm not as nice as you could be! / Why don't you take the time to see?Ā / That the world! / Does not revolve around only you / And we got better things to doā
This addresses Mikeās selfishness and how he feels like an asshole for making things about himself sometimes. Itās about how he isnāt a good person and how there are more important things in the world than him, which is something weāve seen him be insecure about before.
āWhy don't we give you a callā
Direct hit! Mikeās lack of calls to Will and losing his best friend are here now too!
All of this would pile up on Mike, especially after years of going through it. That leads into our final trance song; End of the Line. It opens with a reminder that time has not stopped passing during all this. Then, we get this.
āOn the edge, standingā
Well. I think weāve seen this before.
āTime. Time after time / The end of the line / We stand and watch it fade away... / Sign of the time's the end of the lineā
Yeah I think we get it. Mikeās gonna go back to the cliff. Heās gonna try to kill himself again. We got it.Ā
āIt's your move / So play... it right / Sometimes you get just one chanceā
Thisāll make more sense later, but I think that this is moment where the party opens a portal back to the real world and Mike has a chance. He can end it all, one way or another. This is the only chance heās gonna get to pick.Ā
āIt's the end / It snuck up... / Quick and took you by surprise / The waiting's overā
The waiting is over. Mikeās made his choice.
The Rescue
Letās take a quick step back to the Partyās POV. I donāt think we have any evidence of what happened during Mikeās trance, but I do think I can figure out who actually opened the portal and saved him. Remember the dice rolls? The r-o-b ones? There are two other ones.
This is clearly predicting Elās attempt at saving them, and it fails, but letās look at it a little closer. Who are all the characters in this frame? We have Mike, Max, Henry, Eddie, and two skeletons. What ties all these characters together? They all exist within Henryās mind one way or another, and the two skeletons are representative of Fred and Chrissy.Ā
This is pretty much evidence of the fact that El is gonna go into Henryās mind at some point and witness Mikeās trance. She wonāt be able to free Mike or Max, but she will get to have her realization moment.Ā
So who succeeds?
Here we have El, Dustin, Lucas, and Will. Only Will and Lucas are standing. Will and Lucas are the 20 that save Mike. Will makes sense, with his powers and such and him being Mikeās light, but why Lucas? Check this out.
Look behind Mike. Lucas is there. I think Lucas mightāve seen something thatāll hint to him that was he was seeing was an illusion. Lucas is gonna play a part in saving Mike because heās the person who might actually know anything about what really happened. Assuming weāre getting the Mike/Will role reversal, then Lucas stays the same. The only person who wanted to find Will just as badly as Mike was Lucas (excluding Joyce). If Lucas thinks he can find Mike, he wonāt stop, and he may end up going off on his own to do so or he and Will stick together because Lucas no longer has doubts about hoping.Ā
So Lucas and Will are gonna be the ones to save Mike. Does Mike choose to go through the portal? Head First answers that.
āI push to the left, you pull to the right! / It's a stand off / Gainin' no ground / Outta the dark and into the lights! / It's a breakthrough / Startin' with soundā
Mike is going for the portal, dodging Henryās attempts to push him to the left. Heās running out of the dark and into the light thanks to sound, which is exactly how Max escaped Henry the first time.Ā
āUp down the front and side to side! / Code blue / We need it stat / I got the reason that makes you go! / Mid air / Suspended animationā
āIt all ends with an all out dive!ā
He makes it out, now suspended midair. Henry tried to kill him (code blue) and failed. It ends with a dive, just like how Robin, Steve, Nancy, and Eddie dove into the UD, Mike is diving out.
The problem is that this has brought Will to Henry. Overkill II is a whole beast on its own. It feels much more like a summary of Henryās perspective on his relationship with Will than anything else, which is Gross. I wonāt break down every single lyric because if you read it youāll see what I mean and thatās also not the point of this post. Itās icky sticky bro
On a lighter note, however, I think we have a return date for Mike! Once again, I thank Em for telling me about these amazing LOTR parallels because April 7th is supposedly the date in which Sam and Frodo have their hospital scene after that week of hell (sorry I donāt remember the exact names and I think I forgot to tag the post he told me stuff in). Not only do the times line up, though thereās two years between the events for us, they also make sense with everything else we know about Mike and being in the trance during the time skip as well as the fact that April 7th is Mikeās birthday. That would be insanely significant, especially if that somehow ties into birthday gate.Ā
Mike went missing on April 6th, 1986 and came home two years and one day later, April 7th 1988.Ā
I know that was a lot, so thank you for reading!! There was a ton of info in here but it was so fucking fun to put together, so I hope itās as cool to you all as it is to me :)
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