Jeffery Epstein apparently paid a guy named Robert Trivers to ‘study’ trans people, which just had Trivers stroking his dick to a fetishized stereotype of trans women and calling trans men dickless freaks. That’s it. Trafficking to or from Jeffery Epstein isn’t mentioned in the email. Trafficking wasn’t mentioned, but an outdated stereotype of trans women doing sex work (survival sex really) to pay for hormone injections was

People were naturally disturbed by the contents, but some people took this email to a pedophile as a victory lap for why trans men are lying about issues like rape, trafficking and survival sex and are actually jealous that trans women get raped - taking real life trans women victims of rape, trafficking and survival sex, acting like that’s gender affirmation for them and indulging in rape culture against trans men. These are people who call themselves transfeminists btw

Also, where did the notion that trans men or butches aren’t sexually fetishized come from? The prevalence of feminizing tomboy tropes, dykebreaking kinks, detransition chasers, THE ENTIRE OMEGAVERSE GENRE?? These things exist and go entirely unexamined and unchallenged, because that would involve taking trans men, butches, etc as a serious subject of inquiry

There's so many different aspects to it. We can also clearly see "men invading women's/lesbian spaces" as a common theme. "Men think they're entitled to lesbians! Lesbians don't want you! You aren't a lesbian." Still sounding a lot like TERFs!

Loads of gender essentialism; saying that asking "who want me?" is a "man" thing to do (so what about the trans women I see asking where the trans men who want them are at? Does embracing your sexuality prove trans women are men, since they're doing the exact thing you claim is a man thing?)

I had one person respond that "it's cool when women do it", which is fucked up in many ways. So, it was cool for him prior to transitioning, and now since he's trans it's not cool? Do you hear how fucked up that is? Or the general sentiment said abt sexual harassment too, that it's fine when women sexually harass bc it's not as bad as a man right?

Not even touching on how the issue he made clear was the isolation and alienation for being masc. He wasn't saying "(wokely) if you don't sleep with me I'll KMS" it was "treating people with hostility makes them feel bad."

Claiming an alter/headmate (in an otherwise perisex system) as intersex is appropriation. It harms our community.

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*sigh* here I go saying the same old things...

Brain intersex / psychologically intersex is not a thing. If your body is not physically intersex from birth, you are not intersex. End of story.

Non-binary ≠ intersex. These concepts are not interchangeable. Perisex transgender people are not brain intersex. They are perisex individuals with gender identities that don't align with their sex assigned at birth.

Perisex systems can have alters that think they are intersex, but I won't enable this belief because I find it offensive. It supports harmful intersexist assumptions about our community, and I'm not okay with that.

The [incorrect] assumptions:

You don't need intersex traits to be intersex. You just need to feel intersex in your brain.

Bodily trauma isn't an important part of the intersex experience.

How perisex people feel is more valid and important than how intersex people feel.

Claiming an alter or headmate in an otherwise perisex system as intersex is a form of appropriation. It disregards the immense trauma that real intersex people experience as a result of having intersex bodies. Many of us experience non-consensual genital mutilation, violence, forced transition, and abuse because we are physically intersex (not because of our psychological profiles). When you argue that you don't need an intersex body to be intersex, you are engaging in an act of erasure towards that trauma. You are actively invalidating our experiences in service of your perisex experiences. You are participating in intersexism and (if you don't have lived real-world trauma) ableism.

I sympathize with DID systems who have gone through trauma. I really do (I have C-PTSD myself. I've done IFS therapy and worked with my own internal parts). But I can't support appropriation that promotes misinformation about intersex people.

It's not okay to appropriate other people's trauma as a way to manage/process/avoid/emphasize/whatever your own trauma.

I understand that you don't choose your alters, but you do choose how you talk about them. Out of respect for other people's trauma, if you are perisex, please use non-binary to refer to your alters, not intersex. Again, if your body isn't intersex, you are appropriating someone else's experience and harming us by doing so.

Since people seem to have forgotten this, I'll repeat it. Sex and gender are two separate categories. The former refers to your physical, genetic, and hormonal characteristics. Sex includes perisex male, perisex female, and intersex.

Gender is about identity, how you feel about your body and your social role. Gender has lots more categories including male, female, and non-binary identities. You can be both non-binary and intersex, but you can also be intersex and female or male identifying.

So, the reason this exists, and will never go away, is because social dysphoria amplifies the way society treats men and women differently, and trans women who spent a lot of time getting treated differently in ways that was distressing to them, purely because of their assigned gender at birth, are going to develop empathy for other people in similar shoes, trans or not.

When a school catches a 1st grade (7 years old) boy and a girl showing eachother the other gender's bathroom, making sure they are empty before allowing the other in, and gives only one of them a dehumanizing sex offender treatment and banning them from recess and being alone in class, even making them go with the teacher when they step out to grab copies, the social dysphoria she experiences at being sexualized and treated like a threat because she was born male is gonna make it impossible to ignore the existence of sexist attitudes against boys.

Every time she lost a childhood female friend to the saying "boys only want one thing", which she first heard at 8 years, two years before she would know what that one thing even is, she felt emotional distress, one she would decide nobody should ever have to feel.

Every time she decried things as sexist towards her, pigeonholing her for her assigned gender at birth, and got told by authority figures in her life "sexism against boys doesn't exist because she is privileged in a patriarchy" she would hate the saying more and more, deciding more and more that no boy should ever have to hear it and feel the same pain she felt when she heard it.

Honestly the fact you managed to survive your time being treated to different standards because of your gender without it making you empathetic towards cis men means you were either insanely privileged or just lacking of generalized empathy.

Because I can't understand how any of us can look back on our time being treated by society as boys or men and think men have it good. Or hear trans men talk about the issues they have ran into after transitioning and think men have it good. Even fully passing trans men have many things to say about how society treats or views them that they wished they could do without. But everybody upvoting this misandry doesn't real bullshit likely is the type who can't be normal about trans men.

Both roles fucking suck for their own reasons, but i'll take the way it sucks for us over 1/10 of the pain I felt when I presented male.

Further reading and a quote:

https://medium.com/@jencoates/i-am-a-transwoman-i-am-in-the-closet-i-am-not-coming-out-4c2dd1907e42