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(1/2) Trans/nonbinary/non-cis people: How do you usually feel when a social group, piece of content, etc is labeled as being for "AFABs only" or "AMABs only" even when a person's biological sex isn't relevant to the group/activity/etc?
It's a helpful/useful label to distinguish the target audience/what it's for
It's a way to make sure specific people feel safe and seen in those settings
The terms are useful despite sometimes getting misused to mean "male/female"
The terms themselves are useful, but often used just to exclude trans people
It's a cop-out. Indicates that speaker just sees trans ppl as their assigned sex
The concept of identifying ppl that way is straight up transphobic
I think people's original biological sex is ALWAYS relevant
I feel another specific way
I don't care
I'm not sure/I've never encountered this/show results
Not applicable/show results
A couple examples:
A reader-insert fanfiction tagged as "AFAB reader" rather than "female reader," but makes no reference to how they were born/doesn't make that difference relevant in any way
A support group billed as "for AFABs," which denies entry to non-stealth trans women
Anon finds this usage of the terms extremely irritating and wants to know if others feel similarly.
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Text: decoupling pregnancy from femininity means accurate and more inclusive language and treatment, but it also allows cis women to refuse motherhood without refusing womanhood, which is great for feminism and terrifying for misogyny.
--THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS. As a sterile cis woman who doesn’t want to have children anyway I feel this is every ounce of my being. “Define woman” types tend to do so in a way that excludes me too, so I got to stand with my trans sisters.
Ten days ago, I organized an "Inclusive French" workshop in Paris, to discuss how you can be more inclusive (feminism, gender neutral) in both written and spoken French!
It was so cool, about 40 people showed up and we talked about how to talk about nonbinary people, strategies to be more inclusive of women especially when talking about groups...
So cool in fact that I decided to host an online one for people who aren't in Paris.
The first online workshop will be on Saturday, January 31st at 6pm CET (so 5pm GET, 12pm EST and 9am PST)
To get the link you can just sign up here :)
graffiti found in my local gender neutral bathroom. WHO’S AFRAID OF THE WORD PERIOD?
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we need to start being really pushy about inclusive language again. pericis people are far too comfortable with excluding trans, nonbinary, and intersex people from conversations and it feels like there's nowhere near enough pushback.
I want to have a conversation about this. Any hostile comments will be removed.
Cis women doesn't get brought up in every conversation. The same people who say "cis women is degrading" will refuse to call trans women just women. Also normalizing inclusive language isn't degrading. These terms are helpful for transmasculine people who have children and can help them feel less bad about it. Now my thoughts are is her issue with them being used on her or them existing in general. "I respect trans people" yet they let people be EXTREMELY transphobic about transfems and transmascs in their comments sections.
Why bring this up? Inclusive language is not being used for no reason. Its not degrading, I can understand not wanting you to be having these terms pushed onto you if you don't like it but these terms are NOT degrading.
