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This is the iliad that the woke left want…
What are the meanings behind the names of the main Iliad and Odyssey characters? Just curious.
Certainly dear Anon! Let's see
(GOSH! This turned out longer than what I expected!)
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Menelaus: woe is my ass im homeless and shiprecked with no clothes situation Idomeneus is in
sitation diomedes is in
situation odysseus is in

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Done reading the Iliad, and one of the reasons I'd been stalling on reading it before was how much hate I saw people give Hera or Agamemnon.
And then I read the actual text and found how silly everything is??? Why didn't anybody tell me that the Iliad is literally just a family feud between the gods, and full of dudes (and Athena) throwing bolders at each other, and Agamemnon and Achilles acting like they're having a petty break-up.
Hera (on at least 3 seperate occasions) tells Zeus that he's their father's worst child, and that he's obligated to listen to her because she's not only his wife but his elder sister. Like, she hit him with the "I'm older than you how dare you talk to me like that."
Then we have Zeus banning all the gods from interfering with the war (except of himself of course) before announcing the "Trojan War: Frenzy Round" where he calls all the gods to join (including A RIVER???) and lets the Greeks win just because Hera slept with him.
Athena manipulating Zeus in almost every interaction because she's "daddy's little girl" + everytime she goes to battle she wears her father's tunic and I'm just imagining it like some toddler wearing their parent's shirt.
She also beats the crap out of Ares AND Aphrodite, leaves them on the floor and says "whoever messes with me will get owned"
Hera proceeds to beat the crap out of Artemis with her own bow. Hermes is literally on Hera's side, but sees that and is like "yo Leto I'm not gonna fight you because I think you should go check on your kid..." while Artemis runs crying to Zeus who's like "my precious daughter who hurt you???" And she's like "YOUR WIFE!"
(Also, on the other end, so many people hate on Agamemnon but not Achilles as well? Like they were both stubborn, Achilles more so. PLUS Achilles brutally killed/enslaved so many people even before Patroclus' death, I'm surprised that Agamemnon-only hate is more popular. Like everyone sucks in the Iliad, it's either you hate everyone, or you like the characters in spite of their crimes.)
It takes Patroclus dying for Achilles to forgive Agamemnon (at this point Agamemnon was convinced to give Achilles so many gifts including but not limited to (returning Briseis, gold, land, one of Agamemnon's daughters' hand in marriage)) Achilles then proceeds to murder a bunch of people.
Odysseus and Diomedes jumping a guy, killing 13 other people, and stealing horses.
Nestor drinking wine in the middle of a battle, hearing the chaos, and saying "wait a minute, I gotta get a good view of this action" Also Nestor kicking Diomedes to wake him up.
Helen insulting the crap out of Paris.
Hector insulting the crap out of Paris. Also Priam basically calling his surviving sons trash now that Hector is dead.
Idomeneus and Meriones being tag-team bros. Why don't I ever hear about them huh?
Also the amount of times I read the phrase "the two named Ajax" or "Ajax and Ajax" like did they just stick to each other because they share a name? Like Ajax (the greater) literally has Teucer, his own half-brother to back him up, and for some reason the two of them just hang out with Oilean Ajax on the battlefield???
There are a lot more but I can't remember any right now.
I wanted to make a random ass list of children of priam that were killed by a certain achaean so..yeah.
If I miss someone, let me know!
Killed by Achilles
Hector
Troilus
Mestor
Lycaon
Hippodamas
Asteropaeus
Polydorus
Hipponous
Killed by Odysseus
Democoon
Aretus
Chersidamas
Killed by Diomedes
Echemmon
Chromius
Philaemon
Telestas
Thyestes
Killed by Patroclus
Kebriones
Killed by Agamemnon
Antiphus
isus
Killed by Menelaus
Deiphobus
Killed by greater Ajax
Agathon
Doryclus
agavus
Killed by lesser Ajax
Philenor
llioneus
Killed by Idomeneus
Chorithan
Bias
Killed by Teucer
Melanippus
Gorgythion
Killed by Neoptolemus
Polites
Pammon
Antiphonus
Polyxena
Killed by Polymestor
Polydorus
Killed by Meges
Deiopites
Killed by Eurypylus
Axion
Killed by philoctetes
paris