#hoaxer

She's the first person who willingly accepts an akuma and it seems like she already knows how it works even if "she's new in Paris" or whatever, as if she already has experience and she usually purposefully pisses off people so they get akumatized.

When Manon gets akumatized she gains a certain attitude, she even looks like she's accepting the akuma when it reaches her, she's not scared, she's like "hehe!!"

"Teen Manon" (Cerise) could've got in our timeline though Time Travel: we know she can do that. I support the theory of Manon growing up to be 15-16 becoming Lila and then she time travels to the past years when she was still a kid (as a teen, maybe through TimeTagger himself or her watches).

How they co-exist: we know there can be 2 Ladybugs from 2 different timelines together in the same room (as we see in Time Breaker and Chat Blanc), so there can be 5 year old Manon and 15 Year old Manon in the same timeline through the Time Travel, just like 15yo Alix and 25yo Alix can interact in TimeTagger outside of the burrow.

As for people who say "Then Lila would remember about the things that happened while she was young!!", 25yo Bunnix didn't really remember much about the battle she was going to have, the only way she knew some stuff is because 15yo Bunnix was there to watch the fight, imagine remembering stuff that happened to some girl roaming around in a different area of the city, while you were 5.

She's capable of traveling through time, as we saw her do in the London Special using technology(?) + her akuma powers.

Also, from the Special we learn that Bunnix in Timetagger is 25, which is 10 years in the future of the current events, so Manon and Chris both had the time to grow up to be 15 while our heroes become 25yo.

She could've traveled to the past because the heroes are weaker at the show's current time (litterally what Timetagger said) and because she knew Hawkmoth was going to lose soon, so she needed to get closer to him in order to try gain his trust and get his Miraculous (as she does from "Oni-Chan" onwards until the s5 finale).

The fact season 1-5 took place in one year and they're still fighting in 10 years (and also 60 years, cuz we see 70yo Bunnix in the London Special) kinda makes me wonder if this whole time the "Agreste Arc" was just the Prologue of the story all along lol

Or maybe Lila will unexplicably disappear for a big period of time and then come back suddently, when everyone thought she gave up (timeskip with a montage like in Multiplication, but years long instead of a week). If she's Manon from the future maybe that's when she first appeared in 'Volpina': Cerise, at one point, goes back to her timeline and lets Manon grow up in peace to be 15. Then our timeline's Manon(now grown to 'Cerise age') time travels back to season 1, while future Lila (already Crysalis) goes back in the show's timeline to torment our 25yo heroes who thought she was gone for 10 years (could also explain why she disappears for long periods of time in the various seasons, maybe she goes back to her timeline every now and then)

Someone noticed how there's an episode where Manon says "Goodie-Two-Shoes" while playing with Marinette's dolls (Puppetteer 1) and an episode where Lila says the same thing (Chameleon).

Honestly the whole intro of Puppetteer 1 when they're playing with the dolls could be foreshadowing of her motives and her becoming Hawkmoth, especially how her power was litterally to "re-akumatize" and control people using the dolls, almost as if she was the buttefly holder.. just rewatch that whole scene/episode with this theory in mind!

About the different skin tones: there's a scene in season 5 ("Adoration") where we see her apply makeup on her face, maybe that's a hint she tweaks her skin color for her different alter-egos. There's also a close-up of her makeup tools in "Oni-Chan". Skin tones can also change with age. Btw she might look white in some shots, but her skin is actually darker than Marinette's (still lighter than Alya's.. like Manon)

We see her putting on colored contact lenses to change eye color ("Re-creation" s5 finale), her natural one is probably brown (like Manon's) as Cerise, since that's the look she has in-between her other identities (we see her dress up as Iris? in "Collusion" s5), while the green and the blue for Lila and Iris are contacts. For the missing bunny teeth can just be her fixing her teeth with dental braces or something, she had 10 years to fix them.

Her being italian is just something she said, we don't know if it's true, just cuz she has italian flags in her first bedroom (at the Ambassador mom's house, we don't even know if that's her real mom) and the fact she picks italian colors for surnames doesn't mean it's real.

We don't know who Manon nor Lila's father is, maybe he's the italian one of the parents? Maybe him and Nadja are divorced and she changed her and Manon's surname to her own instead of her husband's (Chamack is not an italian surname)

Not many Akumatized villains can fly, but both Puppetteer and Volpina can, even if they don't have wings or jetpacks or some kind of vehicle.

And you could say Manon's mannerisms when she's akumatized do remind of Lila's. She becomes more sassy and her hand movements are more exagerated and "princessy".

"KittyBlanc" on YT noticed how Hoaxer and Volpina's akumatized colors are more or less inverted color swaps of Puppetteer's! They also have a zig-zag pattern in common and "fox ears" (Puppetteer's pigtails kinda look like animal ears).

We know "the future Hawkmoth" (Crysalis?) created TimeTagger who is Chris (Nino's brother) with the power of time travel and he's likely her assistant (as he mentioned in a deleted line of the original script of the episode). Young Chris even blushes in the end scene when Lila is babysitting the kids, which is very weird, but it's possible he's blushing cuz she told him she is Manon and he was like "woaah!!". Chris is one of Manon's childhood friends and it's not impossible they fell in love in the future?

Bunnix also mentioned an akuma villain duo which everybody agrees might be grown-up Ella and Etta (Alya's sisters), who are also friends with Manon. The 3 bracelets Lila wears could be friendship bracelets she shares with them.

Cerise's shirt is purple like Manon's overalls. Lila's jacket is red like Manon's shoes. The flowers in Manon's overalls are Lilacs, Cerises and Irises (Lila's alter-ego names) and how these two control people is represented the same way!

The people Puppetteer 1 controlled in her debut are also (kind of) coming back in season 6, the person might not be the same but s6 is not fully out yet, so maybe there's better parallels in other episodes (look the first bottom pic)

Credit for these pics (bottom left I added the image with the notes)

In the episode "Oni-Chan" Kagami gets akumatized and Lila grows a horn to detect lies. When Lila said she loves Adrien the horn didn't grow. People see that as proof she was trying to flirt with him for real in Volpina, but I think the horn didn't grow because: she yapped so much in that sentence that the horn may have only detected the last few things she said and it could also be because it's true: she has nothing against Adrien, he called her out on her lies too but she isn't treating him like she's treating Marinette when she called her out.

Between the two, she only has beef with Mari (and mostly Ladybug) and Adrien is both "innocent" in her eyes as well as a tool to make her mad, a way to get closer to Gabriel and gain attention & fame; so she does 'care about him' in a way. If she's Manon she does indeed have no reason to hate him in particular, she had fun taking pics with him in "Stormy Weather" and he was nice to her in "Puppetteer 2". While she would have a reason to be annoyed at Marinette since when she babysat her she always ignored her (Manon) because she was too busy drooling after Adrien or leaving to transform into Ladybug.

Could also explain why she managed to manipulate Nino and Alya so easily even if they know Marinette very well... she knows Nino and Alya very well herself, so they easily felt a connection with her, it's like they've always known eachother!!! Cuz they did!! (in 'Oni Chan' we see she does actually talk to them outside of school and she also shows up in some class videocalls)

I've seen some people theorize the stories Alya told Manon in "Stormy Weather" were also foreshadowings of Cerise's character (the unicorn princess and the potato ogre), but I'm not the best at explaining that one, I remember they said they interpret it: "a Liar is disguised as a beautiful girl" and other things I don't remember rn. [Unicorns as a symbol of deception]

Manon's debut is in "Stormy Weather", which is the first episode of s1 and Lila debuts in "Volpina" which is the last episode of s1.

Both Manon and Lila got to have a ride on the back of Adrien's car at one point ("Puppetteer 2" and "Oni-Chan") + these photoshoots/pictures with Adrien being parallels of eachother.

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She has a million moms, but why would she do that? It's possible that the explaination is that since she's from the future she's not recorded in the city's registry. Just like absconds need a lot of passports just in case one of their fake identities has been caught, time travelers would need to do that to keep living in that era (another example are immortal people like vampires in movies, they also change cities and identities to hide the fact they never get old), and maybe also to hide from Bunnix?

If she had to pick any busy mom, living with Nadja as Lila would a terrible idea because she'd meet her past self, thing that might mess up the timeline (and she knows it). As well as Nadja already has 5yo Manon at home, why would she adopt another kid when she barely can take care of Manon?

Picking random women is the best choice to be hidden, living with Nadja and her younger self is a huge risk in comparison. It risks triggering timeline-breaking events which would alarm Bunnix; instead she's playing smart never interfering with "the canon events" (like when she dragged Chloe away when the class and Adrienette were doing Yoga in season 5)

In the scene where Lila hugs Sabine and tells her she's like a mother to her, Nadja is in front of her, so maybe it hints at the fact she's actually talking to Nadja while pretending to talk to Sabine, we don't see her face in that shot (in "Revelation" s5,). In that scene Sabine also says that Lila only joined her class a few weeks ago, but it's like she's been always been in that class with her (and Manon also followed Sabine's class and sat next to Nadja)

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She also throws fits and crashes out when she fails/doesn't get what she wants. She's manipulative, has anger issues and wants attention, just like Manon. In season 6 she's mostly akumatizing people who are angry, unlike Gabriel, who chose mostly people who were sad. In "Puppetteer" s1 she was having a full on conversation with Hawkmoth to the point he even complimented her "you're a really smart girl!" and she had an evil grin during the whole speech.

In "Simpleman" s4, Manon comes up with a plan to help the 'simplified' heroes, which was even more complicated and convoluted than the actual one Ladybug ended up performing. She IS smart.

In "Puppetteer 2" s3, Manon threatens to cook Theo alive in the wax pot... how did she tie up that man upside down.. as a child.. like yeah superpowers, but how did she think of it.. that's like.. serial killer kinda stuff... kinda gives Cerise vibes, she did try to get people killed multiple times..

Why would Manon Hate Marinette?

Originally, she didn't, I mean at the start of 'Volpina' and even after. Until Mari confronts her in the bathroom about the fact she knew she's a Liar in 'Chameleon'. Then Lila finally sees her as a threat to her schemes and they finally become rivals, in the end scene of this episode, where Mari rejects her offer to cooperate ("from now on, you and I are at war, you'll lose your friends and wind up all alone"-Lila).

Marinette got in her way and she decided to use her as the distraction/object of bribing/excuse to get close to Gabriel. Like, in "Revelation", when she's Hoaxer, she looks like she's mad at Marinette, but PLOT TWIST, right after she gets akumatized she meets Marinette and she decides to ignore her and go on with her plan.

Then she uses Marinette again when she came speak to her in the street in front of everyone, Hoaxer used this chance to pretend she changed her ways and she was sorry, breaking free from the akuma. Instead all she cared about was her plan working perfectly, the plan to gather information about Gabriel-Monarch, she realized she won and she ignored Marinette afterwards again.

[Edit: the Official MLB insta account has posted a pic of Chris and Manon⬆️. Everyone is saying this foreshadows them being Heroes in the future, while I'm looking at 'Timetagger' where teen Chris said he's the helper of the "Future Hawkmoth" and we got an akuma mask on top of their heads with two butteflies]

The reason why Bunnix hasn't "fixed it" means her presence in our timeline is not an anomaly and it's supposed to happen. If Manon didn't travel to the past maybe something in the future won't happen. Like Timetagger, Mr.Rat and the other stuff she listed (like important events), all these wouldn't happen, so it's possible that Lila being in the show's timeline is still part of the canon events, despite her being from the future. If Cerise wasn't supposed to get the butterfly miraculous, Adult Bunnix's future wouldn't have been the same, as she's from the 'Crysalis era'.

Bunnix wasn't fixing an anomaly in Timetagger, she was helping fight an akuma who can time travel, she's the best one for the job since she's got the Time miraculous.

An example of anomaly would've been if Gabriel in "Evolution" had left the pendrive at the picnic to stop himself from using the broken miraculous with Emilie: if he had done that the entire show wouldn't have happened because Emilie wouldn't have died, he wouldn't have become Hawkmoth, Marinette wouldn't have become Ladybug and Adrien wouldn't have become ChatNoir (maybe he wouldn't have been born either). That's timeline-destruction worthy.

For her wish in the London Special to be big enough it destroys the timeline I think it might have to do with her wishing Ladybug or all the Miraculous never existed. In this show's universe a lot of important historical figures had a Miraculous, which means it would change history so much it would probably end humanity + if the Miraculous didn't exist at all it would also mean the universe wouldn't exist because Tikki apparently created it (she's the God of Creation).

I think her goal isn't destroying the universe, but it's gonna happen as a side effect, due to her not knowing about the risks, if she's not going to be stopped. While Gabriel's final wish only changed something in the present (reviving Nathalie and him dying instead), Cerise's wish is gonna change something in the past which is going to require rewriting the entirety of history.

I think if Gabriel had wished for Emilie to have never used the broken Peacock, that wish would also have been pretty destructive, at least the last 15 years of history would've needed to be rewritten (from before Adrien's creation, he might not have existed at all in the new timeline).

So either Cerise changes her wish too at one point or she fails to make it, because we know it can't be left as it is, since it erases the universe.

Did you find any other hints for this theory? There might be some more in s6 like Manon following class with the older kids, but that might be part of Miss Bustier's new school system... still sus...

Anyway, I hope you enjoyed, I wish you a good day/night!💝

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EDIT (AFTER 'YAKSI GOZEN'):

The episode explains why she had so much knowledge of the Miraculous, why did Tomoe let her be close to Kagami and interrupt her fencing lessons. Probably explains also why she was after Adrien, since the deal Tomoe made with Gabriel had Adrigami as a combined couple and Tomoe wanted to make sure he was a good match?

However, we still don't know for how long Lila has been working together with Tomoe, could be from just the end of s5 or could be since the start. In any case, this still doesn't necessarily explain who is Lila and why she hates Ladybug & Marinette so much she wants both of them dead (I don't think it's simply because of what she did in 'Volpina')

I've also read:"But Lila working with Tomoe has to be a Retcon! In 'Oni-Chan' she asked who the girl in red (Kagami) was when she saw the picture in Adrien's room!", good observation buddy, so I went to check myself and rewatched the scene and this is yet another one of the sus things she does in that episode, especially that scene.

First of all, it's just a picture of the Fencing class, why did she get mad looking at it? Then she asks about Kagami and Adrien answers (she does a mad face BEFORE she asks and BEFORE he answers her question), she also says she's been to Japan before, idk if it's relevant since everything she says should be questioned, but I'm adding it lol

Later, if she truly didn't know who Kagami was, then how did she have her number to send the selfie of herself kissing Adrien? It's not an animation error, that's the selfie that caused Kagami's Akumatization in this episode!! She had Kagami's number already back in s3! She had her number in the same episode she pretended not to know who she was! (Scroll up to the 3rd picture, u can see Kagami's contact in her phone sending the selfie!)

And later in the episode she used her crush on Adrien to become Allies with Oni-Chan akumatized and work together against Ladybug! She knew her and how to use her feelings!!!

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EDIT (After "NOE" s6):

Nadja just got Fired from the News 'Because of Ladybug' as she tried to defend Ladybug's image from the movie's script, especially if seen from a child's Pov (Manon was there)!! This event might cause issues to her family in the long run! Maybe her new Podcast initiative won't go well for long or the Council is gonna shut it down while blaming the heroes for this mess (once the Monarch Secret is out?). Crysalis is currently trying to destroy Ladybug's image (she's gonna finish what the movie started?)

'Noe' was an extremely interesting new addition, because I've been reading people disregarding this theory also because of "why would Manon hate Ladybug", but now, in s6, Nadja got fired from her beloved job because she wanted to protect Ladybug's image and Marinette asked her to talk to her boss about it. The same Ladybug who's going to be outed as a Liar, an accomplice of Monarch, in front of the whole world very very soon. The script about Ladybug working with Monarch and hiding the evidence by suppressing journalists.