#hifitalk

Oh neat. Maybe! I somehow forgot about Alchemax lol.

Maybe instead of taking over it, the two became partner companies or something like that. Similar to how J-1 Robotics is partnered with a cybernetics company, or something like that.

Alchemax is where all the very delicate research on power samples and power-reducing tech is done and created. While Nueva York is where the therapy and housing (basically everything else) happens.

Miguel would still be the CEO of both, but probably has another person running the intricacies of Alchemax. I don't see that person being Liv because she would want to be in the researching area, not the one running the shots, and Jonathan I always saw as under Liv in the hierarchical ladder so that also keeps him from being the one running Alchemax.

Actually, just looked it up and found out that Olivia is the founder of Alchemax! Neat! Though I like her kinda being like the secret leader of the company and not really the face of it. That's probably why I think Miguel being the face of both Nueva York and Alchemax would work out really well.

I was going to say that Kingpin could be the head of Alchemax, but then I saw that he has his own company Fisk Industries. I think his company is a holding company in canon which, and I might be wrong here, is like a parent company that completely or partially owns another business as well as stock and stuff like that.

I kinda prefer the idea that Fisk Industries is more like a distributor or a warehouse company than a holding company. No matter what, it is a powerful company with a lot of money to it (probably because it is still definitely a front for a criminal organization in this AU lol).

So like, Vandelay Tech makes special parts, technology, robots and stuff like that, which is then bought by companies like Fisk Industries to store until they get shipped out to customers or brick-and-mortar stores (the cybernetics are done by Vandelay Tech themselves in house and are not distributed).

From there Fisk Industries distributes that stuff to other companies, stores, directly to customers. One of these being Alchemax, which gets specially designed parts and machinery that Vandelay Tech makes, but it's cheaper to buy that stuff through Fisk Industries than directly from the manufacturer (because Kale wants to make a big profit by jacking up the price legally and Wilson is willing to lower prices in some kind of laundering/crime scheme that makes him money illegally).

With the tech/parts/machines from Vandelay/Fisk, Alchemax can create highly specialized tech that relates to reducing powers in people as well as have the tools to do proper research to keep Nueva York running and showing progress to continue getting funding.

Loved talking about this a lot honestly! It's been a bit since I thought about the distribution process of goods from manufacturer to consumer. This also helped me round out more of the area and how some companies are connected together even if they don't seem like they should be.

Honestly, Psychonauts probably gets their parts from Fisk Industries as well. At least if they don't know that there is a crime ring attached to the company, otherwise they would try and get things directly from Vandelay Tech (even if it is pricier, but then the Tech Revolution happens and now Psychonauts aren't sure if they want to continue relations with them either and might have to look to overseas manufacturers for the parts needed for psychic machinery).

NSR and J-1 are definitely working together to supply each other with power, funding, and qwasa tech. NSR would technicaly be the holding company in this part of the world, with J-1 being a manufacturer. There wouldn't be a need for a middleman distributor for J-1 and NSR working together, but J-1 does have distributors for its toys and other products for the average consumer (the cybernetics company owned or partnered with J-1 is not supplying NSR directly, but it does have NSR's interest to think about in order to keep its funding/continue working).

I see you've taken an interest of my NSR fan kiddies aka Burning Constellation and the OFA Rockstars becoming villians aka L.O.V.E. So I've come to ask on what you think the reactions of everyone such as the main NSR Cast, Nueva York, Vandelay, and even the Psychonauts would be when L.O.V.E forms and starts causing havoc everywhere. It's mainly Burning Constellation who starts causing mayhem by launching an attack that destroys the NSR Tower aka Orion doing what her dad Kliff did and drops a satellite on it only this time the satellite hits the Tower and causes a lot of damage, plus they also steal the Grand Qwasa- (I'm sure Kliff would be proud of his daughter LOL-)

Then all the OFA Artists join L.O.V.E after becoming villains themselves so now it's getting out of control to where Titanium has to call in help so she would call in the 4 main groups mentioned. How would they go about to defeat the L.O.V.E villains? Would they try to take them out one by one in order of the OFA Rockstars (Henrick being the first, Rosie second, Prince Astral third, CAL forth, Jodie fifth, and Burning Constellation last?) Or would they lure them into a trap and them battle them all at once?

I apologize for this ask being quite lengthy, I'm really down the rabbit hole of my silly group of villains-

For the NSR characters, it depends on if the tower was empty or not (also I don't know all about your AU, I keep forgetting with my terrible memory, so I don't know who's still alive or still working for NSR at this point in time so I'll keep it vague lol).

If it's empty, like they were able to evacuate in time, the destruction of NSR tower would be devastating but not too bad. If it was full, then L.O.V.E. would be seen as absolute monsters and murderers. They would be hated by a large majority of Vinyl City and probably the NSR cast as well (imagine if Titanium was IN the tower when the satellite hit, we'd need a new leader of Vinyl City then, but since she's the one who calls for help she most likely survives).

Stealing the Grand Qwasa (which sounds so funny to me lol) would be devastating as well since most, if not all, of the power in Vinyl City is now gone. People would die from hospitals not being powered and flooding as machines to keep flooding down are now not being powered at all. Not to mention the whole structure of the city is being thrown all over the place because of the chaos. L.O.V.E. would be despised by the citizens of Vinyl City.

As for the retaliation itself, I don't think NSR would have means of fighting L.O.V.E.. I don't know about your version of NSR, but mine wouldn't have the security to go against a whole villainous organization, which is probably why Titanium tries asking for help.

I doubt Vandelay Tech would do anything. They are just a tech company, not really out there looking to save the world. I'm sure they could offer some security robots, but honestly I doubt they would actually even have any more of those at this point since those types of robots were more Kale's doing and not something Roxanne or Peppermint would have kept going. I can see them sending robots that specialize in care and help to Vinyl City during this time though.

Psychonauts and Nueva York. Those are two organizations that would help Titanium (if they are still around. I definitely think Psychonauts would still be around, but not so sure if Nueva York would have been able to stand the test of time).

With the Psychonauts, they usually only deal with psychic battles, however, they would absolutely be willing to help stop this organization considering they've HAD to have killed some people. I don't know how much of the OG adult cast from Psychonauts would be around (the Psychic 7 are long dead by this point, as are people like Milla and Sasha being very old or dead by this point), I think Raz would be around still, but I don't know if she would still be an active member of the Psychonauts (since she'd be like... idk 50+ at this point, but she could definitely still be kicking ass lol).

Either way, whatever Psychonauts are around would be willing and ready to help try and stop L.O.V.E. at all costs. Using their psychic powers and advanced tech at this point would definitely help them as they track down and get ready to fight L.O.V.E.

Nuvea York is a tricky one. Because, if the Power Revolution worked and stuck true to the core of Nueva York, then that organization wouldn't really be used in this situation. Nueva York at this point is about helping people learn to control their powers, nothing more and nothing less.

Other organizations would have been made to help rehabilitate people using their powers for evil, or to hold people with powers who would have been able to escape captivity after committing a crime, but Nueva York would not be one of them. So whatever other organization is used to help detain and stop people from using their powers purposefully for evil would be called instead (the people of Nueva York would probably not like L.O.V.E. though, considering what they have already done to Vinyl City).

As for HOW L.O.V.E. would be captured, I think the Psychonauts and Power Organization (don't know what else to call it) wouldn't really work together right off the bat. They each have their own methods for dealing and capturing enemies, so they would rather work alone. They'd both also wait until L.O.V.E. commits some kind of crime, maybe try to set up a situation that would attract L.O.V.E., but for the first few tries they would rather try and get L.O.V.E. to commit their own crimes at first and try and stop them at the scene.

I can see it being kinda comical if you want to go that way, where Power Organization and Psychonauts make each other fail a few times and they have a little rivalry going on until something super serious happens and that's when the two groups start to work together and actually coordinate instead of almost actively sabotaging each other.

The order of capture would also depend on how L.O.V.E. operates itself. Do they usually attack in groups or by themselves with only some attacks being group/partner work. If it's single work with sometime having group/partner work, then Psychonauts and PO would do their best to get crimes that are committed by more than one person. But if they only capture one then that's fine as then they can use methods like going into the person's brain (or I guess code for CAL if I remember correctly) to look for the location of L.O.V.E.'s headquarters or base of operations.

If it's group work, then the Psychonauts and PO would do their best to try and capture everyone at once. I can see something going wrong and one person from L.O.V.E. escaping, and now the two organizations have to worry about them breaking out the rest of L.O.V.E. or something.

It could also be that L.O.V.E. ends up never getting caught because of reasons like they are too good at evading capture or are too ruthless that even if they were almost caught, the casualties were too great for their pursuers that they were able to escape each time.

(Olivia Octavius being one of them)

Oh abso-fucking-lutely! That is ENTIRELY what some people think!

It's the same with the Rock Revolution! So many people probably think B2J were just trowing a tantrum because they didn't get picked for a Lights Up Audition! The same thing would be said about the Power Revolution!

However! I do think more people would be a bit more sympathetic to the Arachnikids once they came out with how they were treated while inside Nueva York. Plus other people who graduated the program, or didn't graduate but used the Go Home Machine, would also have stuff to say about how Miguel and company treated the residents.

There would definitely be people, those who graduated the program perfectly fine or staff members, that think it's just a tantrum, but I think more people would be on the side of the revolutionist in this specific case.

B2J? No, there are a lot more people saying they through a tantrum and it was pure luck that they ended up with a happy ending. Even if B2J made it more clear to the public they were doing it for the power and the people (because they never said that publicly I'm pretty sure, just to Tatiana and maybe referenced on Zam FM), I think there would still be plenty of people who think they did it for a lot more selfish reasons and not actually for the people.

Miles and Co. on the other hand had more reasons for their actions that people could sympathize with and support. Even if they didn't know the whole story, even hearing rumors that these kids might have been mistreated is more something people can get behind than B2J's rumor of rock being more powerful than EDM.

Now a revolution that would have more supporters than haters would actually be the Tech Revolution at Vandelay Tech.! The revolution was a lot more internal and barely got out of the upper circles until the very end. Those who did know were probably robots and some human staff members (the few that weren't the bosses).

It was mostly a silent revolution until Mimosa's fight and the closing of the campus. I doubt Kale or Roquefort actually talked to the press since that was Mimosa's job. People were left in the dark and probably a little bit scared with the shut down.

It wasn't until Kale's giant robot fight that people were terrified and only after the actual Kale fight that the public got to know what happened. How Kale mind controlled his own mother and tried to kill an innocent person who was "defected" by the machines Kale created. Like, technically, Chai is a victim in all of this because he basically just wanted health care that will better his living situation and was then attacked because the company's own machinery fucked up his surgery.

People were rooting for Chai and friends once all of this came out to light. I doubt people other than "friends" of Kale would be saying Chai deserved to die. Especially if Roxanne came back into the picture and made Vandelay Tech a company that actually had the customer's interest in mind and wasn't just after profits.

(And people bashing CEOs with guitars)

(Miles and Co played some tracks to coordinate their fight more smoothly)

I have no idea why! But all I can think of is the Arachnikids fighting to Smash Mouth's All Star! I don't know why and know that it is not the song they would fight to! But damn it! It would be so funny!

Anyway, what would be cool is if the music followed Gwen and Hobie because they already had some kind of history with music. Like how Eve and Tatiana don't need instruments to make their music? It just plays around them (which is obviously for the audience, and Eve could be using her illusion powers, but I like the idea that you can make your own music naturally with enough power).

Like, all I can think of is Gwen and Hobie were able to bring the music to the fight (maybe Hobie even stole some NSR drumsticks from the music room for Gwen for the fight during one of its guitar practices), but the music evolves for everyone fighting on their side.

Really, all I can see in my head, is Gwen kicking someone to the tune of alt rock ballet music. It is more ballet as Gwen runs up to whoever she is kicking, and then as she kicks the drums come in hot and heavy! It turns to a kind of symphonic rock/metal and alternates to like some pop and EDM as different people attack and blend there powers together (if Ganke's in the fight it's more like EDM and when he attacks or helps and attack it's like a bass drop).

I don't think something like this could be recorded, not in the same way we as an audience would see it through a screen or something. But you are right that music would definitely help the Miles' and company's revolution.

Because remember, this is still the world of NSR (and Hi Fi Rush), which are music based worlds. So using music directly in a fight, especially a revolution, is something that isn't really heard of but absolutely possible. Before, music would be used to power weapons, robots, tools, machinery. It wasn't used to directly fight people until... honestly until the NSR Revolution most likely!

Sure you could always smack someone with a guitar or something, but making flying music notes or using music to amplify your powers directly? That is not something seen a lot in fights. Before, especially in mainstream media of this world, you either used music to power an item to fight or you used your own powers to fight. Not both.

So honestly, yeah! I think you are right about what these revolutions together would be called! The Music Revolutions would be a perfect name for a new era where music and powers coexist in a more intertwined connection! I actually really like this idea, thank you!

[Also, honestly, I wouldn't mind stealing that as a name for this combined AU. Instead of just Spiderverse and NSR alone, which I think NSspidR is a perfect name for, when I combine Spiderverse, Hi Fi Rush, NSR, and Psychonauts together, The Music Revolution would be a really good name!

Thank you!

And yes! Mimosa is the oldest of the four. Then I believe I had Joey be second, then Celine, and finally Gigi is the youngest.

They all share one parent, so they are all half siblings. I am debating on whether they all share a mother or father, but considering in my AUs I have any bio version of 1010 have the same mother, I like the idea that these four all share the same father.

So honestly, there could potentially be more half siblings for the group, but for now these four are the only ones I have planned to be in this half sibling group.

It took a while to get Mimosa's headshape right, because I still wanted it to be sorta boxy, but still very round. Mimosa and Gigi have very rounded features while Joey has the most sharp, and Celine is a combination of sharp and round. They all are supposed to have very boxy headshapes though (Celine being the only one to move sorta away from being square/square-ish to being a hexagon).

Fun fact! Other than Gigi who I just haven't thought of anything for yet, this whole half sibling group has something unique with their hair!

Celine has naturally fading hair that gets blue/white at the ends (so if she cut her hair short it would take a bit, but the ends would slowly become blue then white).

Joey has natural stripes in his hair on his left side (our right). I tried to have it look like it was wrapping around the back of his head.

And Mimosa has the underside of her hair being purple, which you can see with her hair swoop on her fourhead. I like to think she dyes her hair everywhere else to be yellow, but just leaves that part alone for whatever reason (she probably just likes it).

Because it will rock if someone like Zuke had a robot arm/leg, Hobie with a prosthetic eye (since in ATSV's concept art Hobie has heterochromia), or Chai and the gang getting upgrades via Rodney!

Not in the same sense that Mahito fucked people over.

Like Kale and Ratchet are not going to go and force upgrade/robotic parts onto people. However, they would be willing to disfigure the revolutionists in an act of "self defense" which could lead to Bigweld or Rodney giving them upgrades.

Rodney could definitely help upgrade the HFR gang as they already have robotic parts, he'd just have to be careful with their human parts (like Chai's heart) as he has no experience with human anatomy.

This is why he wouldn't be able to help Zuke or the other humans if they got hurt. At least not in the same way that Chai has her cybernetics integrated into her. If it's something like a prosthetic arm or leg that moves based off of outside muscle movement rather than going into the body and being a full cybernetic, then yes. That is absolutely something Rodney could do!

It would have to be after the revolution through Bigweld and Vandelay that anyone who got severely hurt (Zuke losing an arm and/or leg and Hobie losing an eye) would be able to get fully outfitted cybernetics that are integrated into their body. If they wanted it.

While in Vandelay Yaga creates a group of self reproducible robots, one of which included Bigweld. (And yes Ratchet is meant to look like Kale.)

The robots create more versions of themselves within Robot City, an experimental city created near Vandelay.

Kale who is bitter about losing to Chai band up with the rest of the executive board members to pull some strings, putting Ratchet into power. (And maybe gaslighting Bigweld into quitting.) Vandelay gave Ratchet and Madame Gasket the idea to destroy outmodes.

This ends up catching the attention of Yaga, Chai, Peppermint, and rest of the HFR group (and yes this is an excuse to get Yaga out of the main plot line without killing him.)

They befriend Rodney and co. The Revolution rematch with Vandelay and Ratchet vs Rodney, the HFR team and Yaga commences.

Vandelay is close to California and Robot City is in Europe (like Great Britain area is what I have in mind for it).

Plus the robots of Robot City have been around for much longer than Yaga. The city would have been built probably a couple decades ago to be a more robot inclusive city (more like push robots there and keep them out of "our" city), but only in the recent decade and a half has really hit it big and grown well enough to be seen as a major city in the world.

Yaga absolutely did help create special kinds of robots that could easily reproduce themselves (as in build themselves, not give birth as biotech was not create to that advancement yet) better than other robots around the time. A lot of these robots would go to Robot City and help in its development over the decades it was created.

The history of Robot City and how Bigweld came into power/influence is its own story, not really tied to Vandelay at all. However, once Ratchet got into power a couple of years before the revolution happens, I can see him forming connections with people such as Kale and Neon J (Neon J not knowing that Ratchet is corrupt yet the same way he didn't know what was going on with Miguel. Neon J needs to work on his investments lol).

Once Kale lost power at Vandelay Tech, I can see Ratchet not wanting anything to do with him (seeing him as an outmode) but Madame Gasket likes hearing him out and so takes him and the other CEOs into their executive board as off site investors so that the robots of Robot City don't know that there are humans helping run the city as a major advertisement is that this is a city "For Robots. By Robots." Where humans aren't in charge of robots.

Kale is absolutely still the one to suggest getting rid of outmodes to Gasket, which she loves and has Ratchet start doing.

Yaga's connections to some of the robots in the city, plus his connection to Hobie (who is close to Robot City by being in Britain) are definitely the reasons that he gets involved in the revolution.

Mayday and Zuke are in Britain visiting Ex-Jay when they end up meeting Rodney and decide to help him. I think Chai and friends were also here at this point because they would be friends with Mayday and Zuke (probably there to meet Ex-Jay as these are three generations of rock bands and it would be cool), which drags them into this revolution (especially once they realize Kale is behind this).