WHY?????? WHO??????? HOW??????? His LIPS?? His stupid glasses??? WHY IS HE BROWN!!!
I can't even. The Bumblebee movie NAILED their designs. It was perfect blend of G1 designs and realism. It was so fun to watch. ALL I WANTED WAS TO SEE MORE OF IT. BUT NO. NO!! ALL WE GET ARE 2 FREAKING MINUTES OF ACTION AND THEN THIS MONSTROSITY. WHO EVEN SIGNED OFF ON THIS. IT LOOKS MORE UGLY EVERY TIME I SEE IT. THEY DIDNT EVEN INCLUDE HIS HEADFINS!!!! WHEELJACKS DESIGN IS SO MUCH FUN AND THEY LITERALLY JUST THREW IT OUT THE WINDOW AND FOR WHAY????????? I hate him.
To everyone who likes this design. I am sorry. I respect your decision. I am happy that at least someone can find joy in... this. But dear god. I hate him so much.
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This iceberg is less an objective measure of the community and more just my personal descent into the fandom over the last year or so. Every iceberg I could find online is like bayverse exclusively, and I wanted to make one specific to my experience!! So, this one is mostly idw comics, with some fandom jokes/theories, and little tidbits of the movies/TV shows mixed in. I know a lot of the stuff in the top and middle probably seem super elementary to you guys, but I was really making this with the lense of someone who has absolutely no experience with the lore AT ALL (how I started out) So the top layer is like, basic normal person things to know. Then layer two (still above the water) is slightly niche knowledge that you probably wouldnβt have without SOME kind of immersion in the media. Then you have the first layer below the water, which is still basic esc canon. Then you have the niche cannon. Then you have the WEIRD canon. (Iβm looking at you Moon fight). And THEN weβve got the deep sea stuff! Whichβ¦ speaks for itself. Anyways, Iβm definitely gonna keep adding to this so if you have any ideas please send them in!! And let me know if you have a favorite cause I think some of these are pretty funny :)Β
If you want clarification on one of these feel free to shoot me an ask and Iβll totally explain it!!
Also, as far as lore stuff, Iβm basing a lot of these off of the TFwiki IDW timeline which you can find here. So, thatβs my provided source.
ok so im pretty sure ur referring to the ship starscream x bumblebee? if there's a character named starbee that idk about im gonna feel silly... but i'm just gonna assume u mean the ship.
as far as characterizations, i really leaned into the whole "child solider" age thing w bumblebee. (as i'm writing this, i am realizing i have basically NEVER TALKED ABOUT STARSCREAM??? so i need to do that immediately someone please remind me cause i will forget.) anyways, for that reason i don't know if i would place him into a ship with anyone.
plus, post war (which is where i think most starbee ships take place), bee is maybe... probably... in prison??? so not in any place where he would meet starscream.
ok so that's my offical statement on the lore. BUT i'm assuming you only sent this ask in because you like the ship and wanna hear about it!! so, hypothetically, if starbee WAS a part of this universe:
starscream is basically the complete opposite of bee.
bee is a manipulative, traumatized, slightly crazed people pleaser that's been exploited since birth for the sake of an apathetic overlord that only cares for him as a tool. he has no friends. he's never had friends- and really, he doesn't even understand why.
meanwhile, starscream is every bit as annoying as he is in canon. he is disobedient and loud and RUDE, and everything bee has ever been punished for. he is very clearly Doing It Wrong, and yet somehow...... he's happy? he's cared for!
it's not fair. it's just not fair.
(what bee doesn't see is this- starscream, despite his many eccentricities, is genuinely caring, and protective of the people around him. he's loyal, and determined, and idealistic to a fault. and those traits, after 4 million years of war, have endeared him to a truly staggering amount of people.)
(bee also doesn't see this: starscream is about to endear himself to one more.)
post war- bee has been allowed to rejoin society, on the condition that he makes as big of a show of it as possible. he is to serve as an example for the autobots on how to reintegrate. (relegated to poster boy once again.)
starscream is assigned to be his "diplomatic partner" in a "unity promotion campaign" between the remaining leaders of the deception and autobot armies. (starscream is assigned to be his babysitter, to make sure he doesn't fly off the rails, and to take care of him if he does.)
now, the expectation here is that hopefully, starscream and bumblebee will manage to put aside their animosity long enough that people settle and reconstruction can begin. eventually, society will become stable enough that "unity promotion" is no longer necessary, and they can go their separate ways.
that is not what happens. starscream, shepard of the lost he is, takes one look at this lonely, angry, hurting soul and goes oh! guess he's mine now :)
over the course of the next few years, starscream teaches bee how to advocate for himself. (how to be more than someone's puppet.)
starscream shows him how to really live. (how to be more than just a soldier.)
starscream helps him understand that there's more to life then fighting, that you can make a place for yourself in the world without clawing your way up and carving it out by force. (how to rest.)
and how can bee not love him after that? in some ways, he's still not... normal. in some ways, he is just as obsessed and devoted to starscream as he was the autobot cause. really, bee has just traded one idol of worship for another.
but for the first time in bee's life, that devotion isn't going to be abused. he's given his obedience to someone who will never, ever use it. and that's what love is, i think.
so, starscream gets a scary ass guard dog (that is really just a lap dog in disguise)
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thoughts. i think the art style is kinda goofy but it works okay. the character designs are very blocky but i prefer the blocky over micheal bay metal bard realism.
the casting is... fine? i mean it works for what they're going for but I think optimus and megatron should be more serious sounding. i mean, this plays into my other criticism of the trailer which is that i wish they were leaning more into the political drama aspects of the war origin stories because the darker sides are some of the best of the franchise....!!!! but whatever, i know that's too much to expect from movie producers that need their films to be palatable to the DUMB KIDS who couldn't possibly understand more complex plots π they're obviously going for an action comedy vibe which is whatever. i think there's still some substance there if they handle it well.
i at least DEMAND they don't have a completely happy ending. like, im gonna be pissed if they pull a "cruella" with megatron and give him a villain origin that isn't a villain origin at all actually. i think this is why im not happy about the quintessons being what looks to be the big bads, because it pulls a ton of attention away from the structural inequality that's supposed to drive all the prewar main conflicts.
AND by making orion a worker at the same level as megatron you REMOVE the unbalanced power dynamics that contribute to the interest of their relationship!!!!
im just saying i think i could write a better movie if i had the chance π
but i digress. I've been begging for a prewar movie for ages now, and even if it doesn't look incredible, it looks LEAGUES above ROTB so i am going to shut my mouth and be grateful. especially if this does well!!! MAYBE!!!! WE COULD SEE MORE ADAPTATIONS OF FRANCHISES NOT ON EARTH!! LOST LIGHT ANYONE??????
overall. My expectations are 7/10. I'll cry if I'm disappointed.
i just wanted to take a quick second to point out the facial expressions on donnie during this scene because i think the animators did just SUCH a good job on them
like, firstly, we have this expression right as they get spat out the escape pods, and he just looks... SO distraught. like just scared and panicking. and like donnie is a very low emotion character, so it really hits home the point that this was a seriously dangerous moment for them. notice how none of the other characters can see his face though, since he's turned away from them and towards the camera.
and then this is the part that gets me. he turns around and slaps on the biggest forced grin he can manage. like, to me, this face says "EVERYTHING IS FINE IT'S FINE DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT IT'S FINE I HAVE IT UNDER CONTROL"
and like we can obviously see that he is NOT okay
like, look at the wetness in the eyes. he is LITERALLY holding back tears.
but like. everyone is panicking, and scared, and upset. so he slaps on a smile and makes a joke.
and it's so subtle too! like this entire moment of donnie trying to be strong for his family is conveyed EXCLUSIVELY through his expressions, and i think it's just a really great detail that ads so much to the scene and to his character without being way over the top :)
as a neurodivergent person myself, i really love the autistic rise!donnie headcannons SO just wanted to say that maybe the reason he was so into the purple dragon satin jacket was because the fabric was a lot less agitating on his skin/soft shell.....? obv the movie sort of (???) covered his sensory issues with the (SPOILERS) krang ship controls but i thought this was another decent example of it.
i mean as a literal sewer child he pretty much only has access to what he can scavenge from DUMPSTERS so satin must have been like a godsend for him.
