Really like the pose I come up with! Plan to add this scene into the fic honestly

My """new""" OC Nate, at the start of his story! A regular cringe youth with treatment resistant depression and all that fun stuff, he perceives his path in life void of hope. With nothing left to lose, he spies a horribly suspicious-sounding job opportunity as a "Chosen One" that promises to turn his life around.

When he arrives at the unkempt and abandoned-looking mansion for a job interview, he isn't surprised to think he has been pranked.

PG: going off of that, the whole - you know, people asking you annoying questions about the meaning of your music - do you guys ever do that with each other? or, is it after, 3 decades, is it kind of like, "I'm just gonna let him go with it," or is there anything where it's like, "I have to ask... what is going on."

JL: oh, I think we do- we do discuss things. um, usually a little ways into the process, not- not right off the bat.

um, but yeah we'll, you know - for example, um, with "Underwater Woman," I kinda wanted it- to make it, you know, I kind of felt like this is a- this is a vibe that I wanna not try and... second-guess, or mute the impulse.. prematurely. but- but it seemed like this potentially kind of, um, objectifying song, like - you know, like it could be read the wrong way.

PG: sure.

JL: that it's something- that it's like, if you have a song lyric which is about a woman, that it's not um, putting women in the best light.

PG: sure.

JL: that it's kind of like, objectifying women or making the woman this sort of uh, the caricature or something. what I wanted to do was write a song about loneliness; it happens that the character's a woman. but, you know, it was, it was, uh--

PG: -- I mean, I think that comes across. yeah.

JL: it's trying to be- I'm trying to be sensitive (laughs) basically.

PG: sure, absolutely! no, I think--

JL: -- this is something I discussed with Flansburgh, you know, I was like, "how do we- how do I make this-" and I think, one of the things- he was just, you know, politely saying - well, there was a line that was just "underwater girl," I think originally it went "underwater girl, underwater lady" or something, and he was like, "well why- if you change it to woman, that's-" (laughs) that's already a step in the right direction.

PG: it's weird, but no, it's very true, yeah - well I think the isolation in it is- is heart-rending. it comes through very clearly, I think, yeah.

JL: it's supposed to be sad, and the best thing about it --

PG: -- it's incredibly sad, yeah--