#danny todd

Danny Fenton is Danny Todd.

When Danny Todd was 14, he fell to his death during a gang initiation. The fire escape he was on broke, and the whole way down all he could think about was his he failed to protect his little brother.

Daniel Fenton was born the moment Danny Todd died, with no memories of his past life. This all changed when he stepped in that portal, and his soul was drenched in ectoplasm. He remembered.

But more interestingly, Jazz is an alternate of Danny Todd, Jason's older brother.

I've seen people make Danny Fenton be Danny Todd and change Todd's backstory, but in a multiverse, it makes more sense for Jazz to have a related alternate.

He only has two appearances in canon and died young, but Danny Todd joined a gang to help provide for Jason, making him a caring older sibling. Also he's a redhead. He has no real lore to conflict, and it makes sense! The firstborn son is named Danny, and because Jazz was a male in the DC universe, she/he got the name, and Jason was given another one.

Danny gets launched into the DC universe post-vivisection and meets Jason. As he recovers and they get to know each other, there's more and more clues that they're alternates. Somehow, no one picks up on it.

Someone comments on how similar they look, and they laugh/shrug it off. They bond over dying at the same age. Neither seem to realise they have the exact same protective rage, even if Jason's rage is more like Dan's than Danny's (because Danny has Jazz to hold him back and help him think it through, and Dan and Jason don't).

Danny is, unfortunately, triggered by Dick's physical and loud affection. He mentions it reminds him of his Dad, who almost knocked him over with every "friendly" pat on the shoulder. When Jason first met Dick, he had the same issue, but his dad stopped being friendly about it a lot earlier than Danny's. This, and Dick's anger over feeling replaced, is why it took them so long to bond.

Jason opens up about his bio mum's betrayal/involvement in his death, and her two-facedness and disinterested calm ping something in Danny's mind about his own mum. Friendly and warm when it served her, clinical and cold when she had him on the dissection table.

Danny talks about how much Jazz does for him, and Jason remembers his brother was like that too. He doesn't mention it - that's old, rotten grief, and he's suppressed that for too long to dredge it up now.

Are there really no fics which use this fact?

(outside the Batfam)

Surprise Siblings

Dick Grayson

Melinda Grayson-Lin

Daughter of Meili Lin and John Grayson

Nightwing (2016) #78: Introduced the future Mayor of Blüdhaven, appears to be working with Blockbuster

Nightwing (2016) #81: Melinda becomes Mayor Zucco, meets Dick, tells him she’s his sister

Nightwing (2016) #82: Melinda introduces Dick to her mother, who tells Dick about her friendship with his parents and her brief relationship with John Grayson

Jason Todd

Currently none

Cassandra Cain

Annalea

Adopted by David Cain in an attempt to create the perfect assassin

Robin (1993) #149: Learns she has a sister and then immediately killed by her sister, Cassandra while under Deathstroke’s control

Marque

Cass’s half sister on her father’s side, trained to be a perfect assassin

Batgirl (2008) #2: Cassandra meets Marque and Oracle helps her test her blood

Batgirl (2008) #4: Cass tells Marque they are siblings, stops her from killing their father, David Cain, Marque tells her that they are now enemies

Mad Dog

Adopted by David Cain in an attempt to create the perfect assassin

Batgirl (2000) #68: Meets Lady Shiva’s students, Mad Dog is one of them

Batgirl (2000) #71: Cass realizes that Mad Dog is the first child David Cain raised to be the perfect assassin

Batgirl (2000) #72: Cass tries to help him but dies protecting others from him

+Unnamed Girls

An army of girls trained by David Cain

Batgirl (2008) #3: Unnamed girl calls Cassandra sister as they attempt to kill her

Batgirl (2008) #4: Majority killed by Marque &/or Deathstroke

Tenji Turner

Son of Benjamin "Ben" Turner & Sandra Wu-San

Batgirl (2024) #9: Tenji Turner is introduced, Tenji interferes when Cassandra is questioning his father

Batgirl (2024) #9: Tenji tells Cassandra he is her half brother, the son of Lady Shiva and Bronze Tiger after they fight

Tim Drake

Currently None

Duke Thomas

Currently none

Damian Wayne

Heretic

A clone of Damian Wayne created by Talia al Ghul

Batman and Robin (2009) #12: Introduced when Talia shows him to Damian

Batman Incorporated #8: Kills Damain Wayne

Teen Titans (2016) #38: Appears to have died falling from a great height after being beaten by Crush

Respawn

Created by Ra’s al Ghul out of Talia al Ghul & Deathstroke’s DNA

Robin (2021) #1-2: Respawn is introduced in the Lazarus Tournament

Robin (2021) #6-7: Respawn tells Damian he’s waited his whole life to fight him and that he’ll pay for “what you did to me”. Damian tries to unmask him and Respawn fights him off

Robin (2021) #9: Respawn works with the others to defeat the Lazarus demon

Robin (2021) #11: Respawn tells Rose

Robin (2021) #13: Respawn tells Damian he’s his brother and about his treatment by Ra’s al Ghul and tries to kill Damian

Other Earths

Dick Grayson

Earth 3 - Rachel Grayson

Daughter of John and Mary Grayson

Justice League (2011) #25: Seen dying in flashback with their parents

*Earth 97 - Mitch Grayson

Son of John and Mary Grayson

Batman Forever (1995): John, Mary, and Mitch try to defuse a bomb and Two-Face shot at them with a machine gun, resulting in the three of them falling to their deaths

Jason Todd

Earth 12 - Danny Todd

Parents unknown

Batman: The Adventures Continue #5: Danny Todd tried to earn money for himself and Jason by joining a gang, died while acting as the lookout

Cassandra Cain

Currently none

Tim Drake

Currently none

Duke Thomas

Currently none

Damian Wayne

Earth 2: Helena Wayne

Daughter of Selena Kyle and Bruce Wayne

World’s Finest (2012) #6: Damian and Helena meet, across universes, acknowledge they both have their father’s eyes

World’s Finest (2012) #7: Helena tells Karen she trusts Damian and Damian replies that she “recognized the call of blood across the worlds”. Helena says Damian is “sort of me” and “sort of the little brother I never had” and Damian protects her from wolves. Helena calls Damian brother and asks him not to tell Bruce about her. Damian agrees and calls her sister

World’s Finest (2012) #10: Helena mourns after Damian’s death and goes to his grave

Earth 12: Terry McGinnis & Matt McGinnis

Batman Beyond (2016) #9-11: Damian and Terry fight against each other then work together to destroy DNA nukes

Earth 49: Athanasia al Ghul

Daughter of Talia al Ghul and Bruce Wayne

Injustice 2 (2017) #4: Introduced to Damian as his sister by his mother when she breaks him out of jail

Red Hood questions the ghost, finds out he’s a ghost, is vaguely told his life after death, that not all ghosts remember things as living people would, and dos and don’ts of interactions. Phantom just wants to help!

Important, I need him to eventually say “I go by Phantom, but… you can call me Danny” and if it can be delayed into their meeting a bit and Red Hood picks up the previous info over time then all the better. Maybe Danny is a bit jaded after whatever made him move, maybe it’s just been a while since he’s talked to a human regularly, maybe he’s nervous about Red Hood’s relationship with Batman and Batman’s ties with the JL and the government—take your pick.

Now Red Hood doesn’t say too much on it, doesn’t show it a ton in his actions and stuff (he’s a former street kid who was bat-raised to be Robin after all) and definitely doesn’t voice his thoughts about it, but he totally thinks that Danny is the ghost of his dead brother.

He’s not though, he’s still Danny Fenton and in no way related to Jason. At most he’s only heard rumours of the guy, possibly from the dead who like Red Hood for avenging them and Danny’s nervous “because he’s Red Hood and he’s just Phantom”.

I believe many in the DC X DP Fandom have seen a post or another about that being Danny Phantom before or after reborn of some kind but....

What if for Danny he was supposed to be taking a vacation? (whether it from ghost king or just genral Phantom stuff before or long after his loved ones died and presumably became ghosts is up to interpretation maybe it's even a classic reveal gone wrong visection if you want some more angst)

But the point is Danny is reborn into some of the worse parts of Gotham (possibly before the bat even premiers depending on timeline and how big you want the age gap with him and Jason) but he's born is the rough parts of town maybe he has memories, maybe not, maybe it's all kinda blurry but let's go with fir now he has his memories or he gets them back early in life and he was again not delt the best hand when it came to parents and there is no Jazz to take care of him this time but when he gets a baby brother of his own he realizes why Jazz was the way she was (not that he would ever admit that out loud) and has put himself on the path to be Jason's Jazz his caretaker when his parents wouldn't take that role but it's not easy to get money as a kid from crime ally and in order to put food on the table for Jason he ends up in some bad situations and dies and for this body he doesn't not die or become a half he just dies becomes a ghost but either because he Dosen't want to admit to his family he died young again or he's to attached to Jason he doesn't move on to the infinite realms he just attaches himself to his little brothers side and tries to help any way he can and that some ends up with the normal addition with Bruce and if this fobin seems harder to shoot or bruise than the other one that's Danny's buisness.

I'm not sure where to go from here. Maybe Danny saves Jason from death? Maybe he still dies and chills as a ghost with his brother haunting Bruce till he's revived? Maybe Danny is able to reveal himself when there's some supernatural in Gotham? Maybe this lasts as normal for Jason until after utrh he's forced to do like a magic check up with the jld because batman is paranoid about Jason's heath and the jld is like : Did you know you have this super powerful ghost falling you? And possibly visibilitying Danny and cueing emotions.