(was actually thinking of dm’ing these artists but i think everyone should be aware of this)
So, some suitors or odyssey artists art got fed into AI. I found this out while scrolling for inspiration. Needless to say I am disgusted.
The possible artists I’ve identified of being a victim of this so far: @messymoonmad, @zippyskyfalls, me (somehow), @capi-art , @solvanei , @elianzis , @z0-rrit0 , @art-lokita , @nhykoo , @palamedespoetry , @awkwxrd-robyn, @kisu-doodles, @mivanti03 (atleast i think, the ai made them so unrecognizable for some i have to grasp onto straws)
If your art has been fed into AI and I didn’t put you in the list tell!
Here’s the persons Pinterest, only report. Do not try to resonate with them. It seems they won’t stop anyway. It’s funny yet saddening with how much there is.
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Designs of Amphimedon, Polybus, Leodes, and Ctessipus (or Ktessipos) belong to @messymoonmad
Amphimedon of Ithaca
I didn't really like him, because of his boisterous attitude. Sure the other suitors are bad, but he's on a different level. And somehow, he's worse than Antinous. Which I don't know how that's possible.
Maybe I'll have a different perspective if I get to know him. I mean he does have some sweet moments in his own way.
Also, I grew more curious about his childhood.
What would he want to gain by serving during the Trojan War? What happened to the little boy who dreamed of becoming a noble warrior?
I was almost going to draw Amphimedon with this design, and Agamemnon interacting as described in the, "Odyssey."
I just kept imagining the suitors coming over to Achilles, Agamemnon, and the other guys like little boys who are meeting their favorite heroes. It's kind of cute, but also really sad.
(On an unrelated note, if any of you want to get to know more about Agamemnon, Achilles, Patroclus, Diomedes, and others feel free to join the Iliad group.)
(You're welcome anytime as long as you're interested in exploring the original sources, and avoid retellings like musicals. No, this was not sponsored by them, but I can confirm as a member they're cool.)
Polybus of Ithaca
Just like Eurymachus, I haven't drawn Polybus since that comic I did.
I have some behind the scenes notes for how I did my comic under my drafts. If anyone wants to know, you're more than welcome to ask.
It really meant so much that you took the time to look over my little art sketches. Thank you!
I want to do more fan art related to him, like draw him with a snake cane based on this ask about how the suitors treat others with a physical disability. Basically, have him in a Lucius Malfoy getup.
When it came to Polybus in the, "Odyssey," I didn't take it Eurymachus' father is the same man that acted as one of the suitors. But, I like the concept so much since it makes sense with your version.
I was actually skeptical at first when I was told Eurymachus' father will be presented as a suitor, and I have no intention of falling for any snakes. Now, he's one of my favorite suitors. The irony.
Leodes of Ithaca
I really like this design of Leodes, especially his earrings, and other accessories. And his cute orange curls, his freckles, and his round green eyes. He really does remind you of an orange.
I didn't like how he died in the, "Odyssey," and felt it was unfair. But, at least he didn't have it as bad as Melanthius... ouch.
Although, I never thought of him as a Tsundere or a Dandere type from my first impression of him. But, it's actually adorable. Surely, he'll look even more adorable if he smiles (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)
Now that I think of it, doesn't he remind you of Cassandra of Troy? They're both prophets, they worship Apollo of course because he's the God of Prophecies, they're both red heads, and no one believes in them. The difference is Cassandra is cursed, and Leodes isn't.
It's so tragic how my favorite prophets are destined to have the worst fates. They deserve better! I almost forgot about Helenus, Cassandra's twin brother.
He's not cursed, but he is a good prophet. Plus, he gets a better ending than his sister by taking his revenge on the Greeks through the Roman empire. And if he's anywhere like his sister, also a red head.
Ctesippus of Same
Or Ktessipos. Sometimes, I don't remember how to spell his name.
Strangely, I didn't think about how Ctesippus looks like Sokka from, "Avatar: The Last Airbender," until a few fans noticed. I have no idea why it wasn't obvious to me.
Nor how his design looks similar to Antinous. I just thought he looked pretty cool, but definitely the type who will laugh straight at your face with no restrain.
I guess he does remind me of the hyenas from, "The Lion King." Funny enough, the whole plot is just basically Menelaus proving his honor by getting married to Helen, and ruling Sparta. He's Simba 🦁
Or better, his brother, Agamemnon, fighting against their Uncle Thyestes for the rights of their homeland, Mycenae. The Atreides have a long family history. It's not called the curse of the House of Atreus for nothing.
Yeah, I've been mentioning the, "Iliad," a lot. I hope this doesn't bother anyone, because I'm looking forward to the musicals.
They include Peter Barber's, "Melody of War," Arwen Wen's, "All Fall Together," and Jorge Rivera-Herrans's, "Ilium," Another one I can think of is, "Paris: The Musical," but I haven't saw that one yet. Again, not sponsored by them.
As you can see, the suitors are on a certain panel to parallel with the other set of suitors.
Amphimedon = Antinous ---> the most ruthless and toughest guys... and unhinged
Polybus = Eurymachus ---> they're father and son. Need I say more?
Leodes = Amphinomous ---> the least problematic, and the sweethearts
Ctesippus = Agelaus ---> the only two who are not wearing gold jewelry, wear blue clothes, about the same age (I don't remember)... actually they probably don't have that much in common
I hope you guys enjoy my sketches of the suitors. The next set I'm planning on will be the servants. Be sure to keep an eye on that.
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I designed all 15 suitors of Penelope that are mentioned in the Odyssey… I have no regrets, I love them so much, I will never let them go. Considering yapping sessions for each one based on their known stories and my headcanons for them
GROUP CLOSE UPS:
And below are the full images in height order too (idk how tumblr quality will deal with them LOL)
Another scene from "La Odisea de los Lunnis" here Penelope shouts yeyeyey
I love this scene because it’s in a very funny way inaccurate af, but it also reflects the suitors’ persistence in a way that’s crystal clear to every kind of public. Also Penelope telling them to get lost. And what’s more, this show is full of references to Spanish culture, and this scene is a clear example of bar culture.
That’s why I’m going to mention the tapas listed by Telemachus (a very typical way of listing the dishes in a bar, where the offerings are always the same), this are just some examples tapas offer endless possibilities, and whilst many are typical of a particular region, they may be completely unknown elsewhere. If anyone would like to contribute, please do so.
Tortilla, chipirones, oreja, mejillones, sardinas, molleja, zarajos, aceitunas, calamares y panceta, muy buena...
Tortilla: Here in Spain refers to "tortilla de patata", although there's no potato in this context lol
Chipirones: as said, baby squids, the most common ones are fried, but they can also be served in a sauce
Oreja: Pig's ear in this case most commons are grilled or stewed
Mejillones: When I ask for mussels, I mean steamed mussels ("al vapor"), but then again, I don’t think there’s a consensus, or maybe I’m just stupid myself. There are steamed mussels, mussels in a salad, "tigres" , pickled mussels… my favs are "al vapor"
I don't add lemon or parsley, everyone has their own preference.
Sardinas: Whenever someone mentions sardines, this is what I picture, but I’ve also seen them smoked or tinned.
Mollejas: Is one of the most generic terms I've ever heard in my life. I've translated it here as “sweetbreads”, but to me, “mollejas” usually refers to poultry stomachs, and I think it can mean other things depending on the region you're in, you always have to ask what the “mollejas” actually are ajjajk
Zarajos: I’ve never tried them in my life, but they’re marinated and rolled-up lamb intestines that are then fried or baked, I have to say, they look really tasty.
The wonderful world of olives, I can’t possibly write about everything, but I love the ones that are marinated in rosemary, vinegar, with pickles…
Calamares: usually battered and fried, known by many names depending on the method, I like it "a la romana":
Panceta: For myself usually eaten on its own or in a bocadillo
