#crossover theory

the drag path mv is introducing the new story, and i think that it's going to be another part of the legendarium. yes, the tolkien one. hear me out.

so the Clancy cycle was the story of the Nine Rings of Men, right? "Nine for mortal men doomed to die" and all that. There are nine individuals with powers related to death/dying, and a position of power within this society. one person tries to break out and join a new society full of people fighting the influence of the Nine, but at the crucial moment, he chooses to continue the cycle.

now, here's where stuff gets stretched. I think that the robes are the Nine. they're the one thing Clancy takes from the bishops/their fortress. that's the point of no return. this establishes that the rings can be reshaped while still holding their power.

theory time below the cut!

so, in episode 8 of TADC Caine dies, but its more than likely that a second AI lingers, or Caine could be revived since Kinger tried to load a backup of Caine to reset him (it could be possible that ep 9's main goal is find that computer while avoiding the freed abstractions and revive Caine with it)

what if soon after the events of the show, the real-world computer could be found and purchased by JCJensen (IN SPAAAAAACE), who could use Caine's AI as a basis for the worker drones AI's.

Theoretically this could solve the Solver Virus' origins, as it would be leftover parts of God Caine, using the advanced Worker Drone technology to bend non-digital reality after rearranging their systems and components to do so with the Solver Virus.

Is it corrupting the people who live there as well?

I was talking to @wingedblooms about her and @offtorivendell and others’ theory that Elain will heal the barren parts of Prythian through her lifesinging powers, or healing powers, or raw magic, or maybe even the magic of the Mother (too many questions about and options for Elain’s magic 😅), including in particular Ramiel.

And it got me thinking about the barren lands we’ve seen in Prythian and Midgard that seem to be leeched of life, almost infected somehow: Illyria, the Court of Nightmares, the Prison, Avallen, the Middle.

In all of those lands that have people living there currently—Illyria, the Court of Nightmares, and Avallen—we see that those societies appear almost corrupted. They’re backwards. The people seem bad. They treat their women poorly and oppress them. There is almost a rot within the culture, within the people themselves. And in those lands that don’t have people living there, monsters live instead, perhaps feeding on the rot and darkness in the land, or at least thriving from it?

Why are all these “backwards” corrupt cultures located around these barren lands? Is the magic or essence that is draining the life from the land and corrupting it also infecting and corrupting the people who live there? Is it draining their goodness from them? Darkening their souls?

Will healing the Land heal the People?

When Bryce revived Avallen, did that remove what was corrupting the people who lived there? Will it cause a change in the Avallen people and culture over time because the infection essentially is gone?

And if Elain heals Ramiel and the Court of Nightmares, will it not only bring spring back to the land as @wingedblooms so brilliantly has predicted and heal the land, but will it also allow free the people and societies who live there of the rot (dark essence) that has the infected and corrupted them for millennia, and allow them to move forward free of this darkness and evil towards goodness and the light?

Would it make more sense if she met Aidas while still in Prythian? If there were a portal to Hel located there?

"Lady Death" would be exactly the sort of person being summoned by Hel.

Edit with HOFAS Spoilers:

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Casita from Encanto is a TARDIS

Hear me out here:

• Both materialize seemingly from nowhere

• Both are psychologically linked to it's inhabitants and can respond to their commands

• Both will do anything possible to protect it's inhabitants from harm

• Both have seemingly unlimited internal space with the outside not needing to change

• Both have the ability to create new rooms for the purposes of it's inhabitants

• Both are "living" enough that they can die/cease to be active

• Both can have it's essence be resurrected by repairing it's external structure

Obviously I know this will never be canon, but it's cool to think about

EDIT: MORE EVIDENCE!

One of the directors of Encanto Jared Bush is a confirmed doctor who fan:

He even managed to sneak this into the film

“Eijiro” is “reflective second son” and “Eiji” is “prosperity and peace” roughly translated. Meaning he could have a secret elder sibling we don’t know about.

WHAT IF…

A character like Grell the Reaper from Black Butler was the elder sibling…

Grell’s “human” form has black-brown hair but it shifts to red when he combs it…sharp teeth…eccentric personality…

WHAT IF THE ELDER SIBLING BROTHER/SISTER TURNED VILLAIN AND THAT’S A SECRET REASON EIJIRO WANTS TO BE A HERO SO MUCH?!?!?!

even if this is more of a Fanon Crossover AU type theory, but I can’t help but have the thought pop into my head that has to do with Vox having been originally a protoform, even if it wouldn’t be canon, but would be fanon only in a Crossover Timeline.

like Vox might of never found out of his true heritage, and that his parents had found his newborn sparkling protoform self and when one or both of his parents touch the sparkling protoform, the protoform turned into a seemingly normal human baby, it could also turn out that both his parents weren’t able to have children because they are both sterile, and when they found that protoform that would become Vox, it was like a miracle.

the DNA Vox got from his parents, makes him their biological son, but his CNA comes from his Cybertronian “Mother” either the Cybertronian Mother be a Mech or Femme.

and if any Cybertronian had to be Vox’s possible mother in a Fanon Timeline...

I would pick Kup, who had went through the budding stage and is one of the Cybertronians that didn’t get infected by the sterilization program, so the higher ups wouldn’t have to wait for many years for the protoform to fully grow up and become a Autobot...

he could of had send Vox’s protoform away, not being able to take responsibility of parenthood,which I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the Autobots have done this....because they couldn’t handle the responsibility of taking care of a protoform that was born through budding...

Vox’s protoform ends up on Earth, and ends up being found by his soon to be human parents, they both end up touching his protoform and making him their biological son, and even in Vox’s death, he never found out that he is half-cybertronian and was originally a baby protoform that was technically abandoned by Kup.

 picture the relationship between Kup and Vox being like Ryoko and Washu from one of the different timelines of Tenchi Muyo....

even if Kup uses the same words as Washu that “I didn’t raise you to be a good for nothing.” and Vox using the same words as Ryoko “you didn’t raise me at all.”

if Sari is able to, she could probably reveal that Vox is like her, of course once more this would only be in a Fanon Crossover Timeline and wouldn’t be canon to the main canon of both TFA and Hazbin Hotel. 

the only difference between them, would be that Sari’s “Mom” is Megatron who is a Decepticons and Vox’s “Mom” is Kup who is a Autobot.

if Vox’s human parents ended up in the same place as him, or at least one of them, they could end up telling Vox the truth, that he wasn’t human at first, and he only became part human the moment they touched his protoform and it ended up absorbing some of their DNA and making a human baby appear in the protoform’s place.

 both Vox and Sari, could have a hybrid soul, where it was originally a normal cybertronian spark, but also is a hybrid soul.

 like when a baby protoform ends up becoming touched by a organic, and becomes that organic’s child, it ends up causing the spark to become a hybrid.

also it might be possible that a protoform that does become part human, does end up having both a spark and a heart, the heart would just be a mix of organic and synthetic.

 even if this idea and theory wouldn’t be canon, and I am very well aware of this, and it is meant to be a Fanon thing....

I think the idea of Vox being techno-organic in a Crossover Timeline with different series all living in the same universe, like maybe Hazbin Hotel, Helluva Boss, Transformers Animated, Transformers Prime, Transformers Movie Series, Ben 10 Omniverse and Steven Universe....would be interesting.

and in that crossover it would turn out that all the rings of hell are all in the body of Primus and Unicron’s younger sibling’s body, who is named Atlas, and who is inside of the Earth instead of Unicron.

Atlas needs to become fully canon and not just semi-canon and only appear in that crossover comic between G.I. Joe and Transformers.

hopefully one day that will come true.

and like it said in my other theory about a Crossover Fanon Timeline,

Azmuth would be the true creator of Primus (who has the same name as that planet in the Ben 10 series), Unicron and Atlas.

but all three were transform into transforming robots, because of that living metal seed that was implanted on them by that Quintessa.

Vox being part Cybertronian is just a fun Crossover idea that could work in the Fanon Timeline, like if it turned out that Vox was Chara’s Dad and him being part of the reason why they hated humanity, that might be a weird idea to some that has to do with a Undertale and Hazbin Hotel Crossover, but it’s possible that in some Undertale Fanon Timelines, Chara’s parents weren’t really good people and could be part of the reason why they hate humanity.

if Vox ever got hurt, like in the chest, what if it had revealed his spark, and he feels confused and scared like Sari did when she saw her arm.

and another weird thought that pops into my head is crossover ship that some might of not of thought of before, and that is Knockout x Vox....

maybe that would be a interesting Crossover ship, and if Knockout had to form a binary bond with any smaller organic, it might as well be Vox....well one of the options of organics that Knockout could form a binary bond with.