@edenfalling said: I am greatly intrigued by your Greenwing & Dart thoughts!
Okay so—
I gave Jemis Page because he does spend a lot of time earlier on getting trampled and later on is very… He's kind of an inflection point, later on? He could almost be Witch but he very seldom tries to make as big an impact as he does.
Jemis gets Life because of the literal healing and because he finds a way somehow.
Peregrine gets Heir because he is going to bring big changes, he is likely going to be the Lady's heir, and things just kind of spring up in his path a lot.
Space because he's going to be building something, he's a new beginning.
Violet gets Rogue because she is good at working around people and also kinda sorta avoids dealing with her own issues when possible.
She gets Time because in some ways she can symbolize the current probably unsustainable state of affairs — the Lady withdrawn, Indrilline influence everywhere, people scrambling just to stay afloat — so, endings, death, etc.
Hal gets Knight because he stood up for Jemis at the end in Morrowlea, because he's dedicated to doing the right thing with the power he has.
Heart because he has a whole short story about wanting to figure out who he was besides Duke.
Roald gets Bard because he's being such a Bard. —Okay, what I mean is he's been going around inspiring a lot of secondhand embarrassment and "what the fuck" from people who know him. Once the truth comes out there's less secondhand embarrassment but still much what the fuck.
Roald gets Blood because he took up this task and role out of loyalty and responsibility.
We don't actually know much about Jullanar Maebh so I probably shouldn't have included her but I had the opportunity to add another female character so I did. She gets Seer because from what we've seen she has an idea of the way things are supposed to go/be and doesn't care for being wrong (not that you can entirely blame her with the Interesting Times conga line she was thrown into), so that's 'sees other people in the abstract' and 'try telling them they're wrong'.
Breath I don't have much justification for.
Maid for Hope is a little weak in terms of mythological role but looking at it as creation class and tying to Aspect—
Light because she is a natural scientist and pursues knowledge and understanding.
I was reluctant to include Lark and I wasn't going to but I had an odd number. Lark is obviously Thief.
Lark gets the Aspect Hope because she steals hope, she steals magic; she has things she wants and she takes them.
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Anyway a couple other crossover classpect selections I have with no attached scenario—
Fire Emblem 3 Houses. I actually feel pretty clever about this, because to start with
Byleth: Lord of Space (Prospit)
Sothis : Muse of Time (Derse)
and then other rosters which don't include Space or Time players — the session Byleth joins is the one that will succeed. The other sessions are
Claude: Heir of Breath (D)
Hilda: Maid of Rage (D)
Lorenz: Prince of Blood (P)
Leonie: Witch of Hope (P)
Lysithea: Mage of Doom (D)
Raphael: Page of Light (P)
Ignatz: Rogue of Life (P)
Marianne: Sylph of Void (D)
Dimitri: Heir of Blood (P)
Felix: Seer of Breath (D)
Sylvain: Bard of Mind (D)
Ingrid: Maid of Heart (P)
Annette: Mage of Light (D)
Mercedes: Witch of Hope (D)
Dedue: Rogue of Rage (P)
Ashe: Knight of Void (P)
Edelgard: Witch of Rage (D)
Hubert: Thief of Life (D)
Ferdinand: Page of Blood (P)
Dorothea: Rogue of Mind (D)
Bernadetta: Sylph of Void (P)
Caspar: Knight of Heart (P)
Linhardt: Mage of Breath (D)
Petra: Maid of Hope (P)
Cyril: Page of Blood (P)
Yuri: Prince of Mind (D)
Constance: Maid of Doom (D)
Hapi: Witch of Breath (D)
Balthus : Heir of Heart (P)
Flayn : Sylph of Life (P)
Fire Emblem Fates because why not (Hoshido+Corrin are Prospit, Nohr+Azura are Derse):
Corrin: Witch of Life
Azura: Rogue of Doom
Xander: Prince of Time
Ryoma: Bard of Space
Camilla: Maid of Mind
Hinoka: Seer of Blood
Leo: Mage of Void
Takumi: Knight of Heart
Elise: Page of Breath
Sakura: Sylph of Light
Fire Emblem Tellius with a roster I'm not 100% happy with (and haven't picked moons for)
Ike: Rogue of Heart
Soren: Thief of Doom [or Mage. Mage works fine, I'd kind of prefer Mage, but Thief may be better — he certainly fits the "asshole with talent" description]
Mist: Sylph of Life
Micaiah: Seer of Hope
Leanne: Witch of Space
Elincia: Knight of Mind
Sothe: Heir of Light
Kurthnaga: Bard of Time
Lethe: Maid of Rage
Pelleas: Page of Blood
Ummmmmm FFXIV Scions:
Alphinaud: Heir of Space (P)
Alisaie: Rogue of Time (D)
Y'shtola: Witch of Light (D)
Thancred: Mage of Void (D)
Urianger: Page of Life (P)
Tataru: Sylph of Mind (D)
Krile: Seer of Heart (P)
G'raha: Knight of Hope (P)
Estinien: Prince of Doom (D)
Lyse: Maid of Breath (P)
Owl House:
Luz: Witch of Hope (D)
Amity: Seer of Heart (P)
Willow: Maid of Rage (P)
Gus: Rogue of Light (P)
Hunter: Heir of Void (D)
Collector: Bard of Life (D)
King: Knight of Blood (P)
Vee: Sylph of Breath (D)
Yu-gi-oh (first half Prospit, second half Derse):
Yuugi: Rogue of Space
Anzu : Maid of Breath
Jounouchi: Knight of Hope
Honda: Sylph of Void
Otogi: Heir of Blood
Ryou: Page of Doom
Malik: Bard of Heart
Kaiba: Seer of Life
Atem : Prince of Time
Thief King: Thief of Rage
Tower of God with a roster I'm not 100% happy with and haven't picked moons for:
Bam: Lord of Life
Khun: Mage of Time
Rak: Bard of Breath
Shibisu: Rogue of Mind
Hatz: Knight of Light
Anaak: Prince of Doom
Endorsi: Maid of Heart
Wangnan: Heir of Space
Yihwa: Witch of Rage
Hwaryun: Sylph of Void
Miseng: Page of Blood
I started trying to clean up my Song of Ice and Fire SBURB/classpects thing for AO3 only to discover that, in fact, I may not have touched it for a year or more but that doesn't mean I'm actually satisfied with the most recent player roster or classpect sorting. Does not help that I haven't even been reading fic in this fandom lately but
What I do have is a beginning I like—
They were peddled as curiosities and toys -- trinkets after the style of Old Valyria! They were like large bronze eggs, about the size of an apple, which opened like lockets to reveal tiny mirrors on one side and some sort of intricate interlocking metal wheels on the other.
Somehow it never occurred to anyone to take them apart for their valuable components.
The people they were given to were very attached to them, and fascinated by them, and tended to keep them on their persons at all times. After a few weeks they mostly didn't even really notice they were wearing an oddly large pendant.
No one else seemed to notice the eggs at all.
Even under circumstances where they really should have.
Even if they were pointed out, no one else ever tried to take them — they might take everything else, but never the bronze egg — and they forgot quickly.
Certainly no one ever thought anything strange was going on. They were just toys, baubles, funny things to amuse children or girls or boys not grown up yet. Nothing of real interest. Any thoughts of how unnatural the lack of attention was just.… slipped away.
(Later on the [Samwell classpect] would wonder if maybe they were Valyrian. In a bad way. But no one described the Doom of Valyria as flaming rocks falling out of the sky.)
And then the [Daenerys classpect] in a house of Undying tripped a trigger she didn't know was there, and far away in a crypt, the [Bran classpect] awoke to a pendant gone suddenly warm.
—and then thoughts.
Daenerys is pretty solidly Witch of Rage.
Sansa is pretty solidly Maid of Hope.
Arya is the Time player, for associations with death (even though I'm sending her into the Medium before she can leave for Braavos). Class is probably Rogue, though I thought about Thief.
Bran is the Space player. Class might be Seer (for Seeing, plus "relates to other people in the abstract" and "try telling them they're wrong. I dare you.") or Bard (for the lack of boundaries and general WTFery of body-borrowing), or maybe Mage (active understanding).
Jon is probably Prince of Void, though Heir could do.
Robb is the/a Heart player, probably Heir, though I thought about Knight. He'd be Knight if the Game had grabbed him early enough in the plot.
Samwell is the/a Light player, and probably Mage. I've also considered noncanon class Gnome [passive accumulation class, tilts male, with a ''mythological role" similar to Sylph?] Or he could be Sylph, actually…
Theon is either Thief or Bard. (He has the selfishness for Thief but I don't know about the flair. Being kind of a creeper at times fits for Bard, and he can be embarrassing, and there's the general WTFery.) Aspect is either Blood or Breath, because he's desperate for both connections and freedom.
And I think that exhausts the list of 'people I would definitely include'. However, the gender ratio is unbalanced, and Danaerys is definitely the odd one out, and there are lot of other young-ish characters in the books with miserable fates that getting yoinked into a Game session never to return might actually improve…
Jeyne Poole would probably be Page or something noncanon, and maybe Life? Or maybe noncanon Aspect Bone [caution, indecision, taking a supporting role].
Gendry could be Rage or Doom, and maybe Knight? Or I have him as noncanon 'Clerk' in one of my drafts but I'm not sure what that's meant to signify…
Shireen I have down as Sylph, but Page might be better. For aspect I have Doom or noncanon Grief [conflict (vs. peace), struggle (vs. acceptance), chaos (vs. order)]… actually maybe she'd be better with Peace [peace (vs. conflict), order (vs. chaos), acceptance (vs. struggle)]?
Margaery would be the/a Mind player. She could be Sylph. She could also be Bard, or noncanon class Dame [mythological role "the dame walked into my office and I knew she was trouble"].
Jeyne Westerling would probably be Breath player, and either Page or something noncanon.
Quentyn I've considered for Mage, Seer, Knight, and Heir. I'm leaning Knight? I shouldn't be considering him for anything I did not read that book carefully enough. For Aspect, Doom? Or noncanon Stone [permanence, stability, not reactivity or responsiveness]?
Myrcella would probably be a Blood player, or I also have Life down apparently? Class either Maid or something noncanon.
Loras could be Heir or Prince? Or Knight, I suppose, or something noncanon. If we're repeating classes/aspects he's probably Heir of Mind. If not, something of noncanon Aspect Charm.
Arianne would probably be Breath or noncanon Fire [transitoriness, reactivity] or Nerve [Recklessness. Impulse. Decisiveness. Taking control.] Maid works well, but she could carry Thief.
Podrick is another candidate for Life. And another candidate for Page, for that matter. Or some noncanon possibilities.
And I don't even have that much of an idea for Tommen or Gilly but I'm not sure I don't want them included…
Okay, I have a roster for a nice reasonable session taking off taking off sometime in the first couple Trials of Apollo books, the Triumvirate pushes a button they shouldn't have, with a roster featuring Seven+Nico, Reyna, Thalia, Will, and Meg. But if I do write this, I will not be writing the reasonable version. I will be writing the unreasonable version, including MC and KC.
In fact I already have a prophecy for the unreasonable version:
Timers count, machines appear / Fate new-spun is already here / Stone stars will fall from alien skies / Twelve and twelve and twelve must rise
Twelve children of the wandering gods / Twelve touch two worlds despite the odds / Twelve their mortal life have ceded / Three games to win or all's defeated
For hope to return from the quest / Solve each puzzle, pass each test / For hope that home will still be there / Smash the veils the earth to spare
But what comes of it after game's end / Will on the choices of the gods depend
That's right, three twelve-person sessions, because... reasons. --Because I kept wanting not to leave out various people and then had to keep things balanced, actually.
Whose fault is it? Interesting question. But somebody or somebodies did it on purpose. It was distributed as a fun and innocuous game on purpose. Utgard-Loki was almost certainly involved. Prometheus was almost certainly involved. But it wasn't just them.
I have quite a few notes on entry sequence, and people who were planning to play together but the game wouldn't allow them to connect because they're in different sessions, and people who were not planning to play together but ended up connected, and people who were supposed to be unavailable but weren't.
First, Session Delta, the 'children of the wandering gods' -- living mortal demigods. (Samirah just retired from the Valkyries.)
Leo Valdez: Bard of Doom, Prospit, Land of Gimbals and Drums, Denizen Viné
Samirah al-Abbas: Sylph of Heart, Derse, Land of Truth and Feathers, Denizen Astaphanos
Alabaster Torrington: Prince of Hope, Derse, Land of Vanity and Bogs, Denizen Abraxas
Annabeth Chase: Seer of Space, Prospit, Land of Skeins and Frogs, Denizen Tiamat
Percy Jackson: Knight of Breath, Prospit, Land of Smoke and Sulfur, Denizen Yaldabaoth
Hazel Levesque: Rogue of Light, Prospit, Land of Ravines and Mirrors, Denizen Adonaios
Nico di Angelo: Mage of Void, Derse, Land of Amber and Gloom, Denizen Shax
Will Solace: Heir of Life, Derse, Land of Veldt and Verse, Denizen Iachtanabas
Piper McLean: Maid of Mind, Prospit, Land of Stone and Mirrors , Denizen Ariouth
Meg McCaffrey: Witch of Rage, Derse, Land of Vines and Angles, Denizen Sabaoth
Frank Zhang: Page of Blood, Prospit, Land of Fountains and Tactics, Denizen Iao
Hylla Ramirez-Arellano: Thief of Time, Derse, Land of Wheels and Sky, Denizen Nammu
Session Lambda, people who started out completely human or completely not human but are still mixed up with both worlds now.
Sadie Kane: Witch of Time, Derse, Land of Chords and Spindles, Denizen Amdusias
Blitzen: Prince of Void, Prospit, Land of Whirlpools and Waves, Denizen Shax
Hearthstone: Mage of Light, Prospit, Land of Chimes and Omens, Denizen Adonaios
Amir Fadlan: Rogue of Hope, Prospit, Land of Cliffs and Alpenhorns, Denizen Abraxas
Rachel Elizabeth Dare: Maid of Heart, Derse, Land of Astrology and Riddles, Denizen Astaphanos
Carter Kane: Heir of Blood, Derse, Land of Glyphs and Truth, Denizen Paraplex
Grover Underwood: Bard of Space, Prospit, Land of Twilight and Roots, Denizen Tiamat
Calypso: Seer of Rage, Prospit, Land of Veins and Manganese, Denizen Sabaoth
Zia Rashid: Knight of Mind, Derse, Land of Cisterns and Runoff, Denizen Asag
Shel: Sylph of Breath, Derse, Land of Fog and Dogwood, Denizen Pazuzu
Bast: Thief of Life, Derse, Land of Hemp and Artifice, Denizen Yaldabaoth
Tyson: Page of Doom, Prospit, Land of Drains and Ritual, Denizen Viné
Session Nu, people who one way or another aren't mortal anymore:
Alex Fierro: Rogue of Breath, Prospit, Land of Spruce and Lime, Denizen Pazuzu
Magnus Chase: Heir of Hope, Prospit, Land of Fjords and Bogs, Denizen Abraxas
Thomas Jefferson Jr.: Witch of Space, Prospit, Land of Hills and Frogs, Denizen Tiamat
Halfborn Gunderson: Bard of Life, Prospit, Land of Blood and Skulls, Denizen Zariz
Thalia Grace: Maid of Rage, Derse, Land of Miasma and Stress, Denizen Sabaoth
Bianca di Angelo: Sylph of Doom, Prospit, Land of Glass and Chasms, Denizen Viné
Zoë Nightshade: Seer of Light, Derse, Land of Gold and Scandium, Denizen Horaios
Reyna Ramirez-Arellano: Mage of Mind, Derse, Land of Quests and Sleet, Denizen Ariouth
Mallory Keen: Page of Void, Propsit, Land of Cenotes and Echoes, Denizen Shax
Jason Grace: Knight of Heart, Derse, Land of Blades and Stepwells, Denizen Iao
Walt Stone: Prince of Time, Derse, Land of Sun and Cinnabar, Denizen Amdusias
Luke Castellan: Thief of Blood, Derse, Land of Foxglove and Atria, Denizen Yaldabaoth
And I have some things which would be chapter titles, if this mess were the epic it clearly wants to be:
δ: We Are Lulled Into a False Sense of Security
λ: The Heir of Blood is Unnecessarily Alarmed
ν: Our Plans Fall Through
δ: The Seer of Space Multitasks
λ: The Heir of Blood is Very Reasonably Alarmed
ν: The Heir of Hope is Worst At Computer Games
δ: The Oracle Issues a Quest to the Maid of Heart
δ: We Lose Our Security Deposit
δ: We Just Call It Cousins
λ: We Are Not Offered Bows Or Axes
ν: It Was Made For Those Who Are Dead, Plus Those Two. Three. Two and a Half?
δ: Correction: The Rogue of Light is Worst At Computer Games
λ: Update: The Thief of Life is Worst At Computer Games
δ: The Maid of Mind Returns From the DMV
ν: The Prince of Time Makes a Call
ν: Breaking News: The Thief of Blood is Worst At Computer Games
and many more. Whew. Didn't even include the entry notes. Maybe later.
(crossover classpects for a fandom that does not exist)
Ciaran: Prince of Blood, Derse dreamer. (He's pretty easy: he fits Prince on both 'could you be more dramatic' and 'walking disaster and arrogant as hell', and his connections to people shape who he is, for bad or for good.)
Finn: Rogue of Life, Derse dreamer. (Rogue was obvious, but I thought of a couple possible Aspects. He could have been Doom, because for all he keeps trying he has no expectation of success. He wishes he was Breath. He could do Heart, but not as well as...
Red: Witch of Heart, Derse dreamer. (Red redefined herself once and is redefining herself again -- and she's capable of more compassion than she usually shows. She's also big on rejecting reality and insisting on her own. Not the only Witch candidate,.)
Gwenaëlle: Seer of Rage, Derse dreamer. (I'm on the fence between Rage and Doom, but I think purple is more her color. She could do Witch, but she also spends a lot of time frozen into passivity, so I think Seer works.)
Roderick: Page of Time, Derse dreamer. Page is obvious; for Time, Roderick would very definitely like to skip to the destination now, no more journey.)
Parry: Knight of Void, Prospit dreamer. (She could have been Life or Breath. In keeping with the tradition of "Knights' Lands kicking them directly in the trauma", she has the Land of Bars and Brambles.)
(I thought about cutting it at just these six, the ones actually hanging around Rhyony. If you want to do that, just stop here, switch Gwenaëlle to Space, and switch Gwenaëlle and Finn to Prospit. But continuing:)
Alinor: Maid of Space, Prospit dreamer. (Wants to build things and be responsible. And she has a nasty streak.)
Tom: Bard of Light, Prospit dreamer. (He's had more good luck than just about anyone else in the present day. As for Bard... well, the whole golden goose saga was one incident after another of ignoring boundaries and embarrassing everyone.)
Ingram: Heir of Hope, Prospit dreamer. (He may not make it as heir, but he's a good fit for Heir. And he tries to hope problems away. --He's also probably having some trouble what with still being pretty new to blindness.)
Elsbet: Sylph of Mind, Prospit dreamer. (Tentatively. We've gotten several different versions of Elsbet which are not entirely consistent with each other. This classpect is based mostly on her getting Jan and Meg thrown into the woods.)
(Alternatively, switch Elsbet for Ulfrun -- Ulfrun would be Sylph of Space, Alinor Maid of Mind. I'd go with Ulfrun if it weren't for the age thing.)
Should such a session occur, I think there'd be a 10% chance it was Isobel accidentally activating something no one thought was actually activate-able, and a 90% chance Gwenchera did it on purpose.
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This is hopefully the last one of these for a bit.
Miraculous Ladybug. It's a very unwieldy twenty-person session but I do have an opening for it which I genuinely like.
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Three thousand years ago, the last holder of the Frog Miraculous poured molten lead over it and cast it into the Aegean Sea.
Three hundred years ago, it resurfaced. A diadem partially covered in lead: how strange.
Thirty years ago there was a fire. The lead melted. The diadem didn't.
Three years ago a diadem entered the questionably legal antiquities market.
Three days ago Chloe Bourgeois accompanied her father to a private auction, and recognized in one of the pieces a certain… something, and simply had to have it.
Three hours ago she put it on.
"Hello," said Croaak.
"Destiny and creation!" said Croaak.
"Oh, well, the Ladybug isn't half bad," said Croaak. "Perfectly respectable. But obviously I'm stronger."
"So the Ladybug is nearby, then? I can detect other Miraculous and holders, that sort of thing, but only once my special ability has been activated -- more of a side effect," said Croaak.
"Do you want to try it out?" said Croaak. "The transformation key is 'log on'."
"The special ability is Genesis."
(In Chloe's defense, none of Paris's other heroes or villains would have anticipated what happened next, either.)
(In Croaak's defense, being at the bottom of the ocean for 2700 years wouldn't do anyone's mental health any good.)
(In Iason of Thebes's defense, he was the sole survivor of a team of twelve, the regional Guardians had been annihilated along with two towns and a temple complex, and Croaak had declared it all a smashing success.)
Marinette: Rogue of Life, Prospit
Adrien: Heir of Heart, Derse
Alya: Witch of Light, Prospit
Nino: Knight of Breath, Derse
Chloe: Queen of Rage, Derse
Kagami: Seer of Time, Derse
Luka: Mage of Space, Prospit
Alix: Scout of Mind, Derse
Kim: Bard of Drive, Prospit
Juleka: Haunt of Blood, Derse
Rose: Sylph of Charm, Prospit
Ivan: Thane of Void, Prospit
Mylene: Maid of Stone, Prospit
Max: Sage of Doom, Derse
Marc: Clerk of Hope, Derse
Nathaniel: Prince of Grief, Derse
Zoe: Pawn of Nerve, Prospit
Sabrina: Page of Fire, Prospit
Lila: Thief of Peace, Prospit
Felix: Ace of Strange, Derse
So, yeah, this is what the Frog Miraculous does. Genesis picks Heroes -- it usually prefers Miraculous holders (including the Frog holder) or at least people who vibe with an available Miraculous, but it can be flexible. If they aren't actually currently holding the Miraculous they're likely not to realize they're being influenced until it's too late to back out. Other kwami tend not to like this very much.
This kind of session does include a built-in way back for Heroes, since if nothing else the Frog needs to get back to Earth so it can do it again! And meteor destruction is regional, not global. And if they get back, Ladybug's Cure should be able to repair everything. So it'll be fine.
I have a couple fairly well-developed ideas percolating I haven't written any narrative for since I don't really have a handle on the character voices
So: Kingdom Hearts.
First, the modest and reasonable scenario.
Canon divergence during Days. It's DiZ's fault. He gets impatient with Namine and Riku dragging their feet over dealing with Xion, and adapts some code (which he really doesn't fully understand) to access a 'world where hearts may be mended and merged' (which he also doesn't understand) where he can send Sora and the Nobody and the shell to recombine. He tricks Roxas and Xion, pressures Namine, misleads Riku, and of course Sora's still helpless. DiZ doesn't plan to get Kairi involved, but Riku gets desperate eventually.
Roster:
Sora: Knight of Heart, Prospit dreamer, Land of Waves and Shadows, consorts are doves, Denizen is Zagreus
Riku: Rogue of Life, Derse dreamer, Land of Flint and Specters, consorts are parrots, Denizen is Ladon
Kairi: Witch of Hope, Prospit dreamer, Land of Bronze and Jellyfish, consorts are iguanas, Denizen is Hekate
Roxas: Prince of Rage, Prospit dreamer, Land of Arks and Statues, consorts are tuataras, Denizen is Sabaoth
Xion: Mage of Void, Derse dreamer, Land of Marsh and Catacombs, consorts are cuckoos, Denizen is Nix
Namine: Sylph of Mind, Derse dreamer, Land of Cycles and Eclipse, consorts are pythons, Denizen is Sphinx
It's a null session; they eventually leave via Dark Corridor.
In the end due to their universe's weird cosmology their worlds are all small enough most of the meteors miss (apart from a small one growing a miniature frog temple on Yen Sid's lawn). Sora's awake and has his memories, and though he doesn't have all his old skills back he has some new ones to make up for it. Roxas and Xion and Namine have their own, stable existences. Riku has at least 95% less Ansem in his head. Kairi can hopesplode things with her mind. Organization 13 is definitely not going to see this coming.
Everyone is still pretty mad at DiZ, though. Gonna be a bit of a headache for Yen Sid, too. And Axel is going to be very confused.
When I get a chance to write it up: The overly ambitious scenario.
I think part of the reason I enjoy crossover classpects is I treat it like a puzzle -- pick a set of characters and assign a reasonable aspect and class to each, no repeats (or that one time I allowed exactly two of each, but one had to be Prospit and one Derse, that was really tricky) -- so I have a feeling of accomplishment just from successfully sorting them.
