The Kavernacle discusses the fact that a lot of prominent "breadtubers" not talking about the genocide in Gaza, with an especial focus on Contrapoints, PhilosophyTube, and Hbomberguy. There is also a general discussion of how "breadtube" has dropped in its influence and relevance since it began in the mid-2010s.
Contrapoints is the one of the three I'm the most familiar with (literally been following her since before she came out as trans, to give a timeline) and I remember having similar thoughts, though I'm not on Twitter or Reddit, so I didn't hear about the tweets (and apparently she did something with Hillary Clinton?) that she made that people felt were underplaying it and I made the observation that the one mention she made within a video was sandwiched in a discussion of antisemitism to a point where it felt like she was trying to avoid accusations. The most generous interpretation I had was that she was concerned about reigniting the antisemitism accusations she faced after making the lizard people joke in the capitalism video, but this slaughter has been going on almost three years, so worrying that some people who were always in bad faith might pop up again over the actual lives of children is pretty badly prioritized to say the least.
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Itâs inevitable. If you require any sensitivity readers, or if you are trying to get a general handle if your premise has a problem that can be spotted in the premise stage, you need to write a summary.
This summary differs from a book summary in that the goal isnât to sell the story to a potential reader. It also can differ from any sort of general summary of events, because the events might not be that relevant to the actual question.
A summary for receiving help must include:
Any necessary objective descriptors such as the ethnicity, orientation, abled/well status, class, gender, etc
The specific plot/worldbuilding/character identity point you are asking about. Note the word specific. Questions like âwhat are the general microaggressions of [group/ demographic]?â are extremely difficult to answer, are googleable, and chances are have already been answered by the blog
Relevant backstory. Mentioning your chronically ill character was mistreated by doctors when their symptoms began showing up because they were âtoo youngâ for them is important. But going into gory detail over every single specialist and misdiagnosis is tedious to read through.
Thatâs it. If you include the relevant adjectives and setting/leadup, youâre done.
You should question including:
Favourite classes or current profession. Sometimes these things must be asked, because certain jobs and certain favourite classes have huge unfortunate implications. But unless those are the specific points youâre asking about, theyâre unnecessary
Hobbies and fashion sense. Again, sometimes these things must be asked (âare there specific fashion considerations for wheelchair users who have some ability to walk/get in and out of their chair unassistedâ) but if youâre just tossing them in to show how âwell roundedâ the character is, chuck âem.
Pet peeves and nicknames. Unless youâre discussing certain microaggressions in order to fully flesh out their identity and their relationship to it, we donât need to know they hate being called a stereotypical nickname. And even then, if it ends up being something like âhates being called by [name of their most popular media representation]â⌠thatâs a given in a lot of situations
These are things that sometimes relate to the plot, sometimes donât. If you find yourself going âthis is on my character sheet as a field, I should include it so they know everythingâ or âthis is what I have used to prove the character is of x groupâ⌠cut it.
You generally donât need to:
Describe every single situation ever. We rarely need to know that the character changed schools x times because something happened each time; just say it was multiple and move onto the relevant portion
Give more than one or two charactersâ situations. Sometimes getting into sprawling relationship trees is necessary to get full understandingâ but those situations are few and far between. If youâre asking, specifically, about a brother and sister who are away from home, the most we need to know is how their parents encouraged or discouraged the behaviour when they were children⌠and that can be a single sentence.Â
Give the whole sociological landscape. If youâre asking about how classism and poverty intersect, this is something that the person you are asking (the person who has lived this) already knows, or they have friends who know
Explain the basic concepts you are using. Again, this is something the person you are asking will know (donât ask how many questions I have read where a non-Native person has explained Native concepts to me. Or a non-Asian person explaining Asia. Itâs a lot)
This category is broken down into 2 parts:
1- Ask about one thing at a time
2- The person you are asking is an expert
On point 1: It takes a very long time to generate an answer about questions that contain more than one plot point. You are, in essence, asking for a full beta service⌠for free. Respect their time and ask about a single chunk at once to keep the answering process smooth. If you have more questions later, ask them later. If you want your whole story done, pay them.
On point 2: If you have gone to a blog, especially a sensitivity reader/personal experience blog, and feel the compulsion to explain the basic concepts that are part of their world, you have just insulted their knowledge and placed yourself in the expert position. This leaves an extremely sour taste in the blog runnerâs mouth, and lowers the chances of your question getting answered (and/or increases the chances of you receiving a callout instead of an answer) exponentially.
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How can I tactfully make fun of a Woman of Color in my story?
Anonymous asks:
The main character of my story is an eleven-year-old black-and-asian girl whoâs just moved to a little hamlet in northern Scotland. The first two people she meets, a pair of siblings about her age who have never seen anyone with dark skin or hair that isnât straight and blonde or red, are gobsmacked to see her. Everyone knows everyone in that hamlet and they all see each other as family, so the siblings have never had to learn how to greet a stranger.
They immediately start poking and prodding her, and asking what in the world she did to her hair, her skin, her eyes, and she grumpily asks what they did to theirs. Thereâs no malice behind their poking and prodding, only curiosity, and after this scene, no one bothers her about what she looks like again. This sequence is played for laughs, but is this the kind of thing thatâs okay to play for laughs?
I also want to make sure I handle it as tactfully as possible. This scene is used to establish that my main character is very out-of-place in the hamlet, and to show that the siblings are extremely sheltered and ignorant about the wider world.
As is, the âjokeâ is not funny; itâs just ignorantÂ
I do not see the humor in mocking a Black and Asian girl for their very natural traits, that have a heavy weight of discrimination and systematic racism working against them already, both historically and very much currently.Â
You also describe her as being âpoked and prodded" by these white girls. That alone is obtrusive and dehumanizing, to have them touch her to assuage their own curiosity like she is an object. Is this meant to be part of the humor too? If so, it also does not land.
Your story would not feel like a safe space, at least not for me, and likely other readers, if you make humor out of othering a BIPOCâs common physical looks and traits. This comes across as racism from the author, no matter your light-hearted intent.
ââŚand she grumpily asks what they did to theirs.â
Your Blasian characterâs mumbled comeback doesnât hold equal weight when these girls do not have historical racialized prejudice against them for their hair, skin, and eyes, particularly in the setting of your story where these white people's hair, skin and eyes are the norm and deemed acceptable.Â
Your Woman of Color is outnumbered here; besides possibly mild discomfort, this comment wonât leave these white girls feeling out of place when they have a nation of blond-haired, redheaded people to back up that they are the majority and the ânormalâ and she is the odd-one out.Â
Unless the character takes it to their level with the comments and returns the evasion of personal space, this simply feels like sheâs saying âI know you are, but what am I?â and that's enough correction to address their racism and dehumanization, intentional or not.
Race-based humor requires a delicate, expert touch
All that being said; a scene of surprise and humor related to her presence could take place, and it could even be âfunnyâ without singling out the Character of Color as being the victim of a jokeâ for being Black and Asian.Â
The success of your joke will depend on if itâs relatable to BIPOC, vs. it appearing as if youâre just making fun of our features, cultures and existence.
It should make us feel vindicated and satisfied with the outcome, vs. simply reminding us of the harm and othering people do/have done to us in similar situations.
There is a distinct difference between laughing with a joke and being laughed out: being the punchline of said joke. When the latter happens, Iâd know I am in enemy territory and the book will be put down for good.
I wouldnât trust what is next to come if this is the first impression weâre getting of how youâll treat this character.
And itâs not about not being able to take a joke â we sure can!Â
Humor is actually a key component in many Black communities (particularly American which is where my perspective comes from), a way to honor the good moments and to process trauma and ongoing harm.Â
Thereâs also a distinct difference between laughing at ourselves and among common company vs. someone intruding in our spaces to make a joke at our expense.Â
Comedic writing
Important note to any comedic writers: there are cases where some topics and moments will simply not be funny to most, especially coming from an outsider of the group.
(Notes on my experience: I am a HUGE comedy fan with a natural love for humor, consume comedic-material daily, and attend live comedic performances. My laughter can be heard across the nation.)
Comedians as research
Humor that pertains to race (and towards all marginalized communities, really) must punch up, not down, or itâs not really a joke. It is just thinly veiled racism/sexism/phobia, etc. This concept applies to all comedy and some comedians handle it well, while others (too many) fail. Time and place makes a major difference as well.Â
For research, you could do the following:
Search examples of humor based on race, gender, religion etc. where audiences either loved it or condemned the comedian for it. This could give you a baseline on how itâs done well and when it lands poorly. You can learn a lot from both cases.
Read and watch peopleâs reactions and discourse of said jokes, particularly from the very people from those communities. (e.g., If the bad joke harmed or targeted Black women, give weight to their discourse over any other group. Period.)
Where to find these jokes and discourse
Search engine search
YouTube
Comedian social media pages
Instagram
TikTok
Facebook
Blogs
Streaming channels like Netflix
Jokes found within TV shows, particularly shows with more risque or blunt jokes that make identity-humor (The Office (US), Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Curb Your Enthusiasm, etc.)
And donât forget to look at the comment sections.
Questions to ask yourself while researching:
Failed jokes/comedy towards marginalized groups
What did people [of the identity] find offensive about the joke(s)?Â
Beyond obvious fails such as using slurs from outside the group or black/brown/yellowface, what aspects in their delivery made a joke fail, whether overt or more subtle aspects of it?
Did present or historical context affect the failure of the joke?
What was the aftermath or consequences from the joke and overall community reactions?Â
Does the comedianâs background seem to contribute to the failure of the joke? (For example, having a history of picking on a certain group, their history of interactions with said group, documented history of racism, anti-xxx, sexism, assault, etc.)
Successful jokes/comedy towards marginalized groups
What did people [of the identity] find funny about the joke?Â
What aspects in their delivery made a joke land, whether in overt or subtle ways?
Does present or historical context affect the success of the joke?
What was the aftermath from the joke and overall community reactions?Â
Does the comedianâs background seem to contribute to the success of the joke? (For example, being an ally or having strong activism in the group, being connected to the group via partner, family or friendships, being of the same background, etc.)
Addressing the racism in story
As weâve said before: if there are microaggressions/racism in your story, it should be corrected and addressed in the story.Â
It should not be brushed off or used as humor with no commentary.Â
From how you describe these girls, I'm curious if they're just crass children, or truly do not know itâs wrong to treat strangers like this. Iâve got a lot of nieces and nephews, and even the ones a little younger/around that age you mention would know better than to start touching people and making such comments.Â
Of course, people are raised in different ways and cultures vary, so maybe this is realistic for them.Â
Reactions (from my experiences) of someone talking/interacting with BIPOC for the first time
Staring unyieldingly with open curiosity (sometimes expressionless, sometimes with a smile, rarely have I seen over the top fear or panicked reactions, but they could happen?)
Blunt compliments, observations and questions (e.g., She was dark and she was beautiful! The lady with beautiful dark skin! He had big hair!)
An excessive amount of comments and questions to the point of feeling invasive or like a dissectionÂ
Asking why their skin/hair/eyes are how they are (e.g., why is your skin dark? Why is my skin light and your skin is dark?)
Comparing darker skin to things theyâre familiar with like chocolate and night skies (obviously not greatttt, but is just a common comparison children might make, again from what I've observed)
Referring to brown skin as being painted
Asking if they are dark because they spent too much time in the sun
Giving them a nickname based on their appearance (e.g., The brown lady)
Reaching out or trying to touch hair, skin etc. or pointing at them
The above, including the examples, are exact scenarios Iâve witnessed and experienced first-hand from white and light-skinned children of younger ages, generally 4-7years, having reactions or making comments of curiosity about skin and traits that are different than theirs.Â
Handling these reactions
Obviously children of this age are generally innocent and these questions/observations arenât generally said with malice. But when they are wrong, offensive or are rooted in racism, they absolutely need correction, whether bluntly if theyâre older, or in a kid-appropriate way.
I believe that these children do:
1.Deserve an answer, explained in a way they would understand. We shouldnât shy around the topics and it is not shameful to talk about race! Colorblindness is not real and is a racist concept itself that attempts to erase and culturally-diminish BIPOC, so itâs okay to discuss. Children of Color are born with the burdens of racism from day one and can/do face it at all ages, so yes, letâs answer their curious questions, but correct where needed.
2. Can handle gentle corrections.
Examples:
âYou shouldnât call the woman chocolate. Sheâs a person, like you. She is not made of candy. You can refer to her skin as brown.â
âThatâs enough questions. Let them answer your first question, if they want to.â
âYou can look at him, but staring is not very polite. Would you like to say hello?â
âWe do not touch people without permission. Would you like it if a stranger touched your hair and clothes?â
Adding humor to these moments
I suppose there are ways to make some of these reactions humorous. Your mileage will vary, though. Iâd like to note that Alice, who grew up in a predominantly white European country, says your current scenario brings up bad memories for her. Youâll hear from Mod Abhaya as well.
So, what you may see as funny may be more discomforting to another.
Iâd advise getting opinions on these scenes to gauge reactions from Black, Asian and other BIPOC and readers overall (of any race).
Here are some ways that a curious/ignorant reaction could, possibly, be funny in story:
Your Blasian character corrects them with a long, silent scalding look that makes them wither and instantly regret and realize theyâve said something ignorant. They have to do the thinking themselves to realize their wrongdoing.
She rewards their ignorance with a spray of a water bottle or a swat of a handkerchief, fan, or whatever is era-appropriate. A few words explaining why sheâs doing it would reiterate the fault in their words. Note: this works best if physical humor is part of your story, otherwise it can unfairly paint her as violent. If other characters get involved in the corrections, that would help too.
She returns their treatment equally. (e.g., they pet her skin? She pets theirs. They compare her hair to something odd and unflattering? She compares theirs to greasy noodles and dead grass)
If excessive questions are asked, she returns the favor and asks her own and makes them feel uncomfortable right back (see above)
The character intentionally provides tall tale explanations. It could be simple or a myth of epic proportions. Whether they believe it or not, at least at first, could determine how funny it is).
The girls, having realized their innocent/ignorant wrongdoing, apologize in an over-the-top way that entertains your character.
Again! Please correct or chastise this behavior in the narrative
Whether from characters or author, this behavior should be deemed unacceptable.
In Summary:
Framing the ignorant comments as being the source of humor is something I'd advise against. Source the humor from the resulting consequences that come from their ignorant actions. Let your Character of Color get the true last laugh.
And if the children grow sullen or have their feelings hurt in this story, well, lesson learned to treat the young woman like a human.
Additionally, I'd avoid making truly egregious comments about the character's appearance. It may be fiction, but such words hurt when us real people have these features.
Take your creator responsibility role seriously. You are writing the words of these fictional characters, and some things cannot be unheard or taken back.
~Mod Colette
Intent does not excuse harm
Short answer: an individual lack of malice does not mean that someoneâs actions are not harmful or indicative of broader attitudes. Playing something like this for laughs, when many people have had bad experiences like this, leaves a sour taste in the mouth.
Longer answer:Â
There are a couple of aspects of this that I would ask you to consider.Â
You mention them poking and prodding at her. Are you intending to imply that these children do not understand the concept of personal space? I would assume most parents teach their children about not going up to strangers and touching them at random.
What time period is this placed in? Have they never seen a person of color on television or via the internet? Even if they have never interacted personally with a person of color, most children will have seen people of different ethnicities passively through the media. Many childrenâs books will show people of varying ethnicities. If they are tweens, how are they at a point where they have never seen people of color before? I would consider their actions to be indicative of deliberate aspects of their upbringing i.e. representative of attitudes shown by their parents or guardians.
Establishing your main character as a firm outsider to the setting by emphasizing her physical characteristics does not seem like it will reflect well to the audience. I understand that the incident is not repeated, but it sets an awkward precedent for the character coming into an entirely new environment.
As someone who has had their braid swung around like a jump rope by a random classmate, I would personally consider an incident like this harassment. Consider why you are choosing to frame something like this as comedic.
Lebanese absent father - unfortunate MOC stereotypes?
@sumflowerd asked:
Hello, I, a mixed (Lebanese/white) woman, am writing a short story about a mixed (Lebanese/White) girl living in the southern USA with her (white, Christian) mother who runs away to search for her (Lebanese, Christian) father. It turns out he abandoned her mother while she was pregnant because he already had a fiancĂŠe and wanted nothing to do with her.
I was wondering if having the father be the non-white parent would be falling into unfortunate stereotypes about men of color in interracial relationships and as parents, and if I should just switch the parents' identities or just make them both white and remove that issue altogether? Thank you for your time.
Is having the Lebanese father of a mixed girl abandon her white mother while pregnant falling into unfortunate stereotypes about men of color?
On theme and author's intention
Hi! I think it comes down to your intent as the author.
What themes are you exploring in this short story?
Parental estrangement?
The mixed race/bicultural experience in America?
Learning culture from a place of diaspora?
Exploring fantasy v. reality (through the idea of dad, v. dad in real life?)
You very well might want all of these, but their priority in terms of which theme earns your interest and takes artistic precedence over the others is all up to you. Switching even two themes in terms of importance can wildly affect the outcome of the storyâs execution. Thereâs no wrong answer, only what interests you. Not every story is about race or ethnicity, but when itâs on screen or the page - it should be intentional, because it will have an impact on the reader. Â
Things to consider
So, consider and explore: What would the story be like if the mother was Lebanese (In this context - whatever that may mean to you: Pheonecian/Arab/light or dark skinned) and the father was white, switching it up? If both parents were white? Lebanese (again, Lebanese encompasses a broad range of identities within it - so take this as you will) ? Is there a strong ethnic/religious/racial exploration or element? Do you want (or intend) there to be? If you feel comfortable speaking on religion rather than race, you could make the father Maronite and the mother Druze, or vice versa. If youâre looking for differences - there are a lot to choose from.
SWANA/MENA (Southwest Asian/North African; Middle Eastern/North African) identities are often overlooked or reduced to âwhiteâ in the non SWANA/MENA American public perception. In 2024, NY Times did a great piece about the complexities of the middle eastern identity in America, where the conflation of many SWANA/MENA identities as white passing leaves a lot to be explored and understood.
If that were a focus of the theme of this reunion, then in a sense - there may be something symbolic about the Lebanese father being missing - a hole where her understanding of that side of her culture should be.
The missing Lebanese father would serve a different purpose within the story, compared to celebrating the potential Lebanese culture of a mother that stayed.Â
Depth vs. flat stereotypes
Remember that stereotypes are often superficial things. We talked about this with the Latino-in-manual-labor-trope - if the manual labor is short hand for âuneducated unimportant Latino side characterâ sure, itâs bad. If the manual labor of a Latino parent is contextualized as part of a story on the theme of parenthood and immigration, and it ends with the mechanic father celebrating his daughter's college graduation, saying her success is the answer to his dream, and his greatest pride - then⌠thatâs not so one dimensional, right? Less stereotypical. More holistic. Both examples are using the same âstereotype.â
So, this really comes down to: What do you intend? Why? And does it best serve the story as you wish to tell it?
A Careful Balance: Portraying a Black Character's Relationship with their Hair
@writingraccoon said:
My character is black in a dungeons and dragons-like fantasy world. His name is Kazuki Haile (pronounced hay-lee), and his mother is this world's equivalent of Japanese, which is where his first name is from, while his father is this world's equivalent of Ethiopian, which is where his last name is from. He looks much more like his father, and has hair type 4a. I plan to make his character very finnicky about his hair, both enjoying styling it, but also often being unsure how to style it (not in that he doesn't know how to, but has so many options for how to style it, he has trouble choosing). However, I know that there are some very harmful ways to write black hair, especially in regards to how the black character themselves feels about it. Kazuki does not hate his hair, in fact he takes joy in it, and I'm researching black hair and hair styles to be as accurate as possible. But I'm unsure if portraying a black character as occasionally overwhelmed by or vain about his hair is negative. How would you suggest either changing this or making it work? Does it need to be changed in the first place?
Black Character Overwhelmed by Curly Afro Hair
Your Black character wanting his hair to look its best and at times feeling overwhelmed seems reasonable and natural to me. It appears their challenge comes with how to style it. Not so much with struggling how it looks or how hard it is to manage. That is good, as this further helps avoid placing a strong negative focus on Black hair.Â
Him caring a lot about how it is style should not be deemed vain or frivolous, either. In any case, hair care is self care. Thereâs nothing wrong with having pride with your hair, especially hair that mainstream society, historically and present, might say is not beautiful. This still matters, even in a fantasy world, since your readers still exist in this reality. Itâs empowering and a welcome change to see someone who loves their afro hair, actually.
There are unique factors someone with coily afro hair would experience vs. straight, wavy, or looser curls, but people struggling with their hair (too frizzy, too flat, too limp, too thin, too thick!) is universal.Â
There is a delicate balance to achieve.
Avoid Writing a Black Hair Journey ExperienceÂ
An overall negative Afro hair journey might be the reality for many, especially when society deems Afro hair as unacceptable and slaps so many uninvited opinions, laws and policies over its existence and on certain styles (again, historically and very much at present), but thatâs the kind of story that is best handled by someone with the background. Someone willing to commit to the research might also be able to pull it off, although itâs truly not the kind of thing an escapism novel needs in my opinion. If the story is not meant to delve into âA Black /Black Hair Experienceâ then I'd avoid going that route. That is moving a bit towards a struggle narrative, depending on how much it defines your characterâs story.
Add positive and neutral hair language and interactions
For your writing, Iâd avoid using unchallenged negative language about his hair. Being overwhelmed at times and frustrated is one thing and expected. If his hair is constantly brought up, and is associated with uncontrollable, ugly, or too [insert struggle here], then rethink the direction youâre going.Â
Add some positive or neutral terms, reactions, and interactions in the narrative towards afro hair, such as describing color and texture.
âHis fine coils bounced in the wind.âÂ
âHair black and shinyâÂ
âShe wore her hair in two large, fluffy buns.â
âHe admired his fresh, neat braids in the mirror, smiling at his reflection, before turning to leave.â
Another tip: It may have been for research purposes, but leave out any hair number categorizing in the story and rely on description. Iâd say this goes for any story, as reading the number would feel off.Â
âHe had coily 4a hair.â Nahh! :PÂ
Also, I would suggest sending all passages that focus on his hair to a Black sensitivity reader for review.
More reading:
Image: Describing Black Hair in Fantasy, Braided Styles
How do you describe afro hairstyles in a world where the words donât exist?Â
My advi
Image: Words to Describe Hair: Afro | Curly | Straight | Look | Texture | Style | ColorÂ
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Non-offensive Historical terms for Black people in historical fiction
@pleasespellchimerical asked:
So writing historical fiction, with a white POV character. I'm not sure how to address race in the narration. I do have a Black main character, and I feel like it'd feel out of place to have the narrator refer to her as 'Black', that being a more modern term. Not sure how to do this without dipping into common historical terms that are considered racist today. Thoughts on how to handle this delicately, not pull readers out of the narrative? (fwiw, the POV character has a lot of respect for the Black character. The narration should show this)
There are non-offensive terms you can use, even in historical fiction. We can absolutely refer to Black people without slurs, and if slurs is all one can come up with, itâs time to go back to the drawing board. I cannot say which terms are best for your piece without knowing the time period, but hopefully the list below helps.
Historical terms to use for Black people (non-offensive)
African American documented as early as 1782 (documented in an ad in the Pennsylvania Journal). Note the identity isnât accurate for non-American Black people.
African could refer to African people or âfrom 1722 as âof or pertaining to black Americans.ââ
The place of origin could also be used. For example, âa Nigerian womanâ
Africo-American documented as early as 1788.
People of Color documented as early as 1796 (with specific contexts, usually mixed people)
Afro American documented as early as 1817, 1831 (depending on source)
Black American documented as early as 1831Â
Black was used in Old English to refer to dark-skinned people. Black was not capitalized until recent years, so âShe was a young black woman.â would make sense to say, though âShe was a young Black woman.â is the better standard today, although not universally adopted. I personally prefer it capitalized.Â
Moor was used as early as the late 1400s for North African people, but had a somewhat flexible use where anyone visibly Black / Of African descent or the Afro Diaspora might be referred to or assumed as a Moor. Note, it has other meanings too, such as referring to Muslim people, but that doesnât mean the person using it is going by the dictionary definition. Not really the way to go today, but okay in a historical setting (in my opinion).
Biracial (1860s), mixed race (1872), multiracial (1903) and multicultural (1940s) are also terms to refer to people of two or more races.
Occupation + description. Throughout history, many people have been referred to as their occupation. For example, the Carpenter, The Baker, the Blacksmith. Hereâs an example of how you might go about using occupation and traits to identify a Black character in history. Hereâs an example I came up with on the fly.
âYou should go by Jerryâs. Heâs the best blacksmith this townâs ever seen. Ya know, the real tall, dark-skinned, curly haired fellow. Familyâs come here from Liberia.â
Offensive and less-sensitive terms for Black peopleÂ
Blacks was used in plural more, but this is generally offensive today (Even writing it gives me **Thee ick*)
Colored was mostly used post-civil war until the mid 20th century, when it became unacceptable. This is not to be conflated with the South African Coloured ethnic group.
Negro/Negroes were also used as early as the 1550s. Capitalization became common in the early 20th century. I'm sure you know it is offensive today, though, admittedly, was not generally seen as such until around the 1960s, when Black replaced it. It does have its contexts, such as the trope âThe Magical Negroâ but going around using the term or calling someone that today is a lot different.Â
Mulatto referred to mixed people, generally Black and white, and is offensive today.Â
The N-word, in all its forms, is explicitly a slur, and there is absolutely no need to use it, especially in a casual manner, in your story. Weâve written about handling the N-word and alluding to it âif need beâ but there are other ways to show racism and tension without dropping the word willy-nilly.
Deciding what to use, a modern perspective
Iâm in favor of authors relying on the less offensive, more acceptable terms. Particularly, authors outside of the race. Seldom use the offensive terms except from actual direct quotes.
You do not have to use those offensive terms or could at least avoid using them in excess. I know quite famous stories do, but that doesnât mean we have to so eagerly go that route today. Honestly, from teachers to school, and fellow non-Black students, itâs the modern day glee that people seem to get when they âget a chance to say itâ that makes it worse and also makes me not want to give people the chance.Â
It goes back to historical accuracy only counting the most for an âauthentic experienceâ when it means being able to use offensive terms or exclude BIPOC from stories. Weâve got to ask ourselves why we want to plaster certain words everywhere for the sake of accuracy when there are other just as accurate, acceptable words to use that hurt less people.Â
Disclaimer: Opinions may vary on these matters. But just because someone from the group cosigns something by stating theyâre not offended by it, doesnât mean a whole lot of others are okay with it and their perspectives are now invalid! Also, of course, how one handles the use of these words as a Black person has a different connotation and freedom on how they use them.
~Mod Colette
The colonial context
Since no country was mentioned, Iâm going to add a bit about the vocabulary surrounding Black people during slavery, especially in the Caribbean. Although, Colette adds, if your Black characters are slaves, this begs the question why we always gotta be slaves.
At the time, there were words used to describe people based on the percentage of Black blood they had. Those are words you may find during your searches but I advise you not to use them. As you will realize if you dive a bit into this system, it looks like a classifying table. At the time, people were trying to lighten their descent and those words were used for some as a sort of rank. Louisiana being French for a time, those expressions were also seen there until the end of the 19th century.
The fractions I use were the number of Black ancestors someone had to have to be called accordingly.
Short-list here :
½ : mÝlatre or mulatto
Âź or â : quarteron or mĂŠtis (depending on the island, Iâm thinking about Saint-Domingue, Martinique and Guadeloupe)
1/16 : mamelouk
ž : griffe or capre
â : sacatra
In Saint-Domingue, it could go down to 1/64, where people were considered sang-mĂŞlĂŠ (mixed blood for literal translation, but âHP and the Half-Blood Princeâ is translated âHP et le Prince de Sang-MĂŞlĂŠâ in French, so I guess this is another translation possibility).
-Lydie
Use the 3rd person narrative to your advantage
If you are intent on illustrating historical changes in terminology consider something as simple as showing the contrast between using âblackâ for first person character narration, but âBlackâ for 3rd person narrator omniscient.
-Marika
Add a disclaimer
I liked how this was addressed in the new American Girl books
itâs set in Harlem in the 1920âs and thereâs a paragraph at the beginning that says âthis book uses the common language of the time period and itâs not appropriate to use nowâ
-SK
More reading:
NYT: Use of âAfrican-Americanâ Dates to Nationâs Early Days
The Etymology dictionary - great resource for historical fiction
Diversity Win: Is "Crazy Rich" POC Representation Necessarily Empowering?
sodapopsculptor asked:
Iâm writing a story with two sets of protagonists: A trio with a Black girl, a Latino, and a Vietnamese-American boy who all come from middle-upper class to ridiculously rich families, and a pair of white working-middle class sisters. Theyâre all heroes of this story.
Iâve seen way too many rich white people and poor poc people in fiction, and Iâm kinda getting sick of it, but Iâm worried that by having the poc kids be rich and the white girls not so much, Iâll be reinforcing the idea that poc somehow rule the world.
The only time the rich kids use their status as leverage is when the Asian threatens to sic his cop dad on a bully (race unstated but I imagined him as white) picking on a freshman, and during the Black girlâs birthday party, when she pays the biggest jock there fifty bucks (And later says offhandedly that it was just what she had in her pocket) to chase off a creep hitting on her.
OP, have you ever seen the âdiversity win!â meme before?
I understand that your motivation for these narrative choices is to give POC a chance, if you will, to be the rich characters. But it is evident from this ask that you have not asked yourself what this entails. I want to ask you to critically examine the race and class intersections youâre creating here, as well as these kidsâ roles in oppressive systems.
You explain that these rich POC are heroes and only have righteous reasons for leveraging their power.
But is your Black girl character aware of the potential disciplinary and/or legal consequences her jock accomplice might face while she has the resources to keep her hands clean? Are you?
Is your Asian character aware of how much of an abuse of power it is to âsicâ a cop on someone, and the sheer amount of harm a criminal record or incarceration does to a juvenile with behavior issues? Are you?
So you want to put POC in positions of power for #representation.
Does it resonate with the group youâre representing?
Do you research and portray the unique ways race, ethnicity, class, and majority vs. minority status come together?
Or are you putting these characters in oppressive hegemonic roles for the sake of a power fantasy, on behalf of a group you're not even in?
To your question, you're not reinforcing the idea that "POC rule the world" because such a generalized belief does not exist. Instead, you're reinforcing:
The idea that society has âwinnersâ and âlosers.â
The idea that the problem with disproportionately powerful people is the lack of âequal opportunityâ as opposed to the power imbalance to begin with.
The idea that those in oppressive positions of power need only have the right intentions to justify their use of it.
To be clear: that is not to say that you can't have jerk aristocrat billionaire millionaire crazy rich POC. Evil or mean rich characters are fun! I have some myself! You can even have rich characters who are gentle-hearted and well-intentioned, but you have to know the ways in which theyâre privileged and decide how aware of that your characters are. Thatâs no problem.
But if you think that wealthy and powerful POC would have the same values and priorities as their poorer counterparts, youâre deluding yourself. Thereâs a reason why the quote âpower corruptsâ exists. Thereâs a reason why no matter where you look on the globe, there are historical dictators and tyrants.
If you want bratty rich POC who lack regard for the consequences of their actions, because you want bratty rich characters, great! If you want them because it would be uplifting or empowering representation? Youâre doing it for the wrong reason.
~ Rina
I fully agree with Rina, and truly want to emphasize the last paragraph.
If you want bratty rich POC who lack regard for the consequences of their actions, because you want bratty rich characters, great! If you want them because it would be uplifting or empowering representation? Youâre doing it for the wrong reason.
I don't think you need to aim to subvert or purposely make all the BIPOC rich and powerful and the white people poor and suffering. Add diversity and include upper class rich and class privileged BIPOC, sure thing! And you can avoid your fears of intentional subversion message by including rich and powerful white characters as well, even if they're not the focus of your story. Just their existence helps. You could also include middle-class characters of Color as well.
Author with cultural disconnect: How do I write without making it seem as if I hate my own heritage?
Anonymous asked:
Iâm a white-passing Asian author, and Iâve never felt all that connected with my heritage.
My current story centers on a fairy (re: fantasy-world POC) child and ends with her realizing that her parents are toxic af and her human best friendâs family takes her in. This is the perfect opportunity to sort through my own issues with my heritage and finally convince my monkey-brain that itâs okay to not know how to cook Vietnamese food or celebrate tet or speak VietnameseâŚ
But I also realize that if Iâm not careful, this could easily slip into âHey, I hate my heritage and so should you!â So how can I stop that from happening?
Writing for yourself first, not an audience
I ask you a simple question: why put pressure on yourself to have any sort of non-offensive messaging for a story that hasnât been drafted yet and is to convince your monkey brain itâs okay to exist as yourself?
That seems like the fastest way to stop the story from being actually cathartic and instead a performance art piece when you already feel hung up on performing as âproperlyâ part of your culture.
As I said in Working Through Identity Issues and Other Pitfalls of Representation, not all stories you write need to be for public consumption. Especially stories youâre using for your own self-processing and therapy, because youâre trying to get a cathartic moment that is rewriting your own story.
At what point does the public need to be involved in that?
I do understand the compulsion to want to postâI have definitely posted some Questionable⢠material in my drive to get validation for feeling the way I do, wanting people to witness me and say âsame.â Itâs a powerful urge. Sometimes itâs worked, but most of the time itâs just made me feel horrifically exposed.
But you really do not have to post in public to get any sort of validation. Set up a groupchat with friends if you want the cheerleading and witnessingâpeople who will know your story and give you good-faith interpretations and wonât accuse you of anything. Honestly Iâd suggest setting up this groupchat anyway; as someone who just got one again after quite a few years without it, my productivity has skyrocketed from being around supportive people.
Let the monkey brain have its monkey brain moment and shut off the concept the story is for the public. Shut off the concept of performing for an unknown audience. Itâs for you. Be authentic, no matter how bad it would look to outsiders. Theyâre not reading it. Part of getting catharsis, sometimes, is being the worst version of yourself, somewhere nobody else can see it.
Deciding to publish the work
If, after you do write it, you find that you actually do want to polish it up and put it somewhere⌠edit it. Rewrite it entirely if thatâs what it takes. Take the story through the same drafting process every story needs to go through, ripping out the unfortunate implications as you go.
Editing can be its own form of healing, as you try to figure out what this character would need to not be hateful. As you realize, once this longform journal entry is out of your head, what was bothering you now that you can see it pinned down on a page. But you absolutely do not need to write with the intention of editing in that healing. When Iâve tried, itâs fallen flat.
The healing will come from being yourself, no public involved, and writing about your feelings in their rawest form. Anything else is extra.
Thereâs no point in trying to put guard rails on the drafting process, not for a deeply personal piece. And by the time that drafting process is done, youâll likely have specific scenarios and contexts that you can ask about, and you might even have ideas on how to fix it yourself once the story has a shape to it.
This is 100% a situation where thereâs no real sense in idea workshopping something in the plotting stage. Youâre doing something for you. Decide if itâs for public consumption later (while acknowledging ânoâ is a perfectly valid answer), and only figure out how to make the story not overtly harmful if you decide to put it out into the public.