š for.... Punch/Counterpunch?
Ahh Punch and Counterpunch... I love those two too...
off the top of your head: notes for characterization? what are the most essential traits of this character to you (personality traits, important connections/dynamics, voice)?
For Punch, externally, he's quiet, reserved, stoic. But inside, he's a paranoid, anxious mess who barely can trust anyone, not his own faction, not the faction he's undercover in, not even himself. He pretends he's fine, but he's really, really not
As for Counterpunch, externally, he's like the average Decepticon: Cold, cruel, dirty, violent... Plenty is just for appearances, some is because its an outlet
As for voice, I got nothing. Not a lot of options, and nothing comes to me as the right type of voice for either of them.
adjacentlyādo you think fandom does the above traits justice? why or why not?
No. No... See, Punch and Counterpunch teeter this very dangerous line where they can fall into the harmful stereotype of 'evil alter ego' and stigmatizing DID or other identity disorders.
Its like the Stunticons, who are also widely portrayed with mental disorders. I think it is possible to treat Punch having DID with respect and proper analysis, especially since it is supposed to come from the trauma and stress of him doing his job as a double agent. There is something to explore there, but rarely have I seen it done so
I don't even trust hasbro to do it right..
throw this character at any other character of your choice to bounce off each other as outsider pov to each otherā regardless of timeline or logistics (crossovers allowed if you're interesting about it). why this combination? what insights would they have on each other?
I want to put him in a room with Red Alert. I think this would be very stressful and tense for both of them.
Red Alert would sense something off with Punch and might even try to press him.
Punch would think Red Alert Knows Everything he's trying to hide but still try to pretend he's all good...
Counterpunch would think Red Alert a threat that needs to be eliminated...
how do you think you would react to this character in real life and vice versa? would you prefer be a million miles out of range, be amicable classmates, or fall desperately in love?
As much as I enjoy him as a character and want the best for him,(both of them) I... I don't think we'd get along well. I think I'd be in danger actually
ideal flavor of rotating for this character? crack them open and dissect themā do you want them tormented, pining, or being loved + comforted? do you have any specific scenarios you like to think about?
I love to crack open Punch and Counterpunch and dissect them. I want them both to go through hell, did their holes deeper, push back against one another, but perhaps come to some understanding through it all too...
Also sometimes maybe that they have A Good Day, that maybe they can each get a friend and someone Help Them.
weave a web of dynamics through the cast for this character: which dynamics are you most interested in? both canonically and through extrapolation/speculationā which dynamics are the richest to you, and why?
I think one of the most interesting dynamics would be between Punch and Counterpunch, what they think of each other, how seperate they think the other, or how 'that's just me' they think. I want to see them go through that identity crisis hell its enriching for me
I'd also just. Like to see Punch in media again, but that would likely come at the cost of stripping away what I find most interesting about him.
do you have particular niche takes on this character? defend those takes. (openly controversial takes are permitted, but also: hyper-specific headcanons which you believe in and no one else has considered enough to disagree with yet. pick a hill to die on.)
Counterpunch doesn't have to be, like, evil. He's also just. Going Through it. I personally like to imagine that, subconsciously Counterpunch is there to protect Punch on a mental level. Or well, try to.