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sooo crazy to think about how all first three supernatural showrunners were jewish (life on this planet is all that matters, heaven is a false dream and a bit of fascist state) and then BAM. mormon andrew dabb. heaven ending = happy ending. kill the protagonist. his cruel father lives down a sunlit road. peace forever (what’s free will again?)
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supernatural s12e6 celebrating the life of asa fox (w. steve yockey) / s11e23 alpha and omega (w. andrew dabb)
romcom chicks, aren't we all
be still my beating heart part 12 of ∞ | spn parallels
Rob: This episode deepens the mystery of Dean’s time in Purgatory. How did you decide what to reveal here? Especially about his loyalty to Castiel? Was that storyline mapped out or was it something coming together as episodes progressed? Andrew Dabb: It was something we really focused a lot on the first 2 weeks when we were in a room. Honestly at that point probably more- ‘Cause, I think, again we kind of know what a reunion between Sam and Dean is gonna look like. We don’t know the particulars but we know the shape of it. We kind of know what world we are walking back into. Purgatory was a complete blank slate for us. So what was it gonna look like? Obviously it can’t look too crazy because we don't have that much money. And so a lot of a time we spent- I mean at one point we went big and Dean was gonna be some kind of weird Road Warrior type monster ia a post apocalyptic landscape. But then we go ‘Oh, we can’t afford that.’ So we just put them in the woods. So we spent a lot of time mapping that out. Purgatory’s storyline was essentially broken, written in the room on its own. At least the major steps of it. Rich: And then you broke it up into flashbacks? Andrew Dabb: Exactly. So we knew this episode we were responsible for X, Y and Z flashbacks. Where normally when you’re going into an episode, you don’t have that much going into it, when you’re breaking it on your own. You have ideas and goals but that one Jeremy and Bob really focused on breaking a version of in a room early on, because it was such an unknown for us.
-Rob Benedict, Richard Speight Jr. and Andrew Dabb Supernatural Then and Now
Whats up, Tiger Mommy with Andrew Dabb (S8EP2)
Supernatural showrunners credit Misha Collins specifically as Castiel, and the angels' storyline generally, as contributing to the show's rejuvenation and as part of its longevity.
1) Eric Kripke
Source: YouTube
Erik Kripke (at min 0.13):
You know, and I get this question a lot. I mean, here's the reality, and I'm always accused of being, probably too honest. You start these things with like a cocktail napkin sketch of the five-year plan. I mean, the five-year plan is a couple of pages. It's not much.
And it was always driven by the demon side of it. So, yes, the progression of the demon ladder ending with Sam inadvertently going dark side, bringing on the apocalypse and having to deal with the apocalypse and kind of moving up the ladder from Yellow Eyes to Lillith to Lucifer. That's the plan we've been on.
You know, the angels, you can go back and find interviews that I gave as far as - there will never be angels on the show over my dead body - hur, hur.
And, you know, obviously it's probably one of the coolest parts of the show. And that came from us, I think in the writers room, realizing that, like, we had a really cool, evil empire, but we didn't have, outside of the few cool hunters we had, we didn't really have the rebellion. Like, we didn't have, you know, you couldn't have these awesome off-camera battles that sort of lent a real epic feel to the show.
And that we felt there was a missing puzzle piece that kind of evolved through as we went along. And that's where really the angels came from.
And thank God, they did because totally rejuvenated season four in no small part to this guy (gestures to Misha).
And - and Jim's too.
And so, the angels quite frankly evolved; that part did evolve as the process. But the part of building up and facing down the devil has, that part at least, that thumbnail has kind of almost been around since the beginning.
2) Jeremy Carver
Source: TV Guide 2014 SDCC edition
Jeremy Carver:
Castiel helped send the series in a different direction, introducing the notion of Heaven. Beyond the [appeal of the Winchester] boys and their chemistry, he's the biggest reason that this show has lasted.
3) Andrew Dabb
Source: Supernatural Homecoming Exploring Episode 300
Andrew Dabb (at 3.00 mark):
Cas's introduction in season four, the introduction of angels generally, is probably the reason the show has continued and lived as long as it has.
Once again wanting to fight Andrew Dabb in a parking lot. He writes Dean as though Dean IS the hypermasculine performance, like dude stop taking out your high school insecurities on my favorite character I fucking hate you!
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Dabb Era writers were the destiel dream team!
Dabb guided PLOT-CENTRAL ROMANTIC STRUCTURE VALIDATED BY EVERY PARALLEL/THEME/CHUCK-AS-CW METANARRATIVE
Berens gave us CANON DESTIEL, FANFIC GAPS, DREAMHUNTER PARALLELS, CELEBRATION OF QUEER JOY/BEING AND DECONSTRUCTION OF HETERONORMATIVITY
Glynn brought MIXXTAPE/HERE'S TO BEING RIGHT COLLABS, DEANCAS DEFYING GOD/EVERY OTHER TIMELINE TO CHOOSE EACH OTHER
Yockey schooled us on CLASSICAL QUEERCODING, RECLAMATION OF MONSTROSITY/OTHERNESS
Perez said DOMESTIEL RIGHTS THEY WATCH OLD MOVIES SAY "I LOVE YOU" AND WATCH EACH OTHER LEAVE IN THE MORNING
BuckLeming-Singer
Jeremy Adams and MegFitz with just a few eps did CANON BI!DEAN and A LOT TO DRAG ME AWAY FROM YOU
'It would've kind of blown up the show in a very odd way.'
He has some of the worst storylines ideas, I swear. Who wants to watch a story of them in a mentor role with everybody knowing about monsters?? Yeah, I agree. That would have destroyed the show. What made it a success was watching THEM hunting, being on the road in shitty motel rooms, trying to convince people that what attacked them was a monster! And people were wondering about the antichrist, why did we never see him again?? I would have liked to, but internationally?? Nahhhh. Americana was the heart of the show!!
we been knew
