so the new update..YOOO, but some parts have me worried, especially the end. Now I got the whiteboard out
Now I’m doing this in three parts. 1: the celestials, 2:Bendy and Dandy’s relationship, 3:how I believe Shelly will appear.
1: so this map was specifically made by the celestials (for that one person who didn’t know) the reason Mugman hates them so much could be that they try to cover up the stars tracks. For example, this panel
The real world it try’s to warn the group that its danger up ahead, but the map is all like “oh yeah, you need to follow the path, look, it’s glowing, that means it’s good” and yada yada. Plus, it only shows its content when it’s convenient, when someone was trying to find them it was like “oh here you go, see? I’m helping you out, you can trust me!”..ima side on Mugman with this here, it’s SO SUSPICIOUS PLEASE TELL ME I AIN’T LOOKING TO DEEP INTO THIS!
2:alright wooo, Bendy and Dandy here. Ima go out on a limb and say they’re ex’s. Nort confirmed that Bendy is pan, they even pointed this out
Now I ain’t saying that because they are touching that means they used to date. But look at the sparkle in Bendy’s eyes, the genuine smile on both of their faces. Even IF they knew the picture was getting taken they were happy to be seen together. Why did they split up?…Whishupon..now hear me out, Bendy had to quit preforming because of his illness right? And I have reasons to believe Bendy was on his way to become a star, hell, Micky remembered his name. Soon after Bendy had to stop Dandy began to rise on his own, eventually becoming a star. Bendy got hurt after that, I mean who wouldn’t? I sure as hell would be. I’m not saying they split up because of that necessarily, I think it was something like Bendy being worried about Dandy growing so much he won’t remember him, and Dandy just wanted him to be proud of how far he grew. The reason I know for a fact that the broke up/split up is because of Bendy’s reaction here
He IMMEDIATELY grew cold at the sight of Dandy, the sparkle in his eyes? GONE, his mouth agape in wonder, also gone. That ONE picture of Dandy had enough power to make Bendy angry/annoyed.
2.5 alright so I know I said three parts and I promise to keep this short, but I wanted to dive deeper into Dandy’s lore just a bit. So we know he used to work with Bendy (and possibly date) but what else? I’m guessing he was gone due to a twisted outbreak, what are twisteds? They’re toons who got overcome by Ichor, idk if they’re canon or not but this is just a theory. And if that’s true, then Dandy MUST have had SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. Listen, in the game Dandy came from, people are theorizing that Dandy wanted to recreate the show he was once in, using Ichor to make them but unfortunately ended up making twisteds. You can see in the game
It’s all his fault..that might be why there was that text there
It even said “site condemned”, by what? Ichor and twisteds (I would continue but this part is getting way to long, I’ll explain more if anyone asks)
3: how I think Shelly will be introduced. Well, take a good look at this screenshot
The area is a train station, what else has a train station? Garden View center, the area where all of Dandy’s World toons came from in the game. I definitely feel like she will appear early in the chapter or towards the middle. Knowing Shelly, she might be investigating the area, trying to know what went down, using Pebble as a tracker to find hidden info. But we’ll have to “Wait and See” ahahaheheheugh
Sorry for the long rant, I just really like Dandy’s world and its lore, I really want R&D to get introduced, they are my favorites.
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Ok I found this part interesting. Besides the whole Mini Kris getting out of the screen and threatening our Kris (also Kris getting... pale?? probably an animator error but worth mentioning still), Susie asks them if they enjoy it. Susie, who has been a symbol of freedom in Kris' caged life. We seemingly got two options given:
More than once we can differenciate our choices from Kris' by the way the others react, but this time it seems to be different. None of them Susie reacts as if Kris was screaming or confused or tried to hide the answer by coughing.
If you chose "Of course. Games are fun"
They sweat. Their head tilts down too, almost regretfully, still "pale". Even if their voice tone wasn't described, we can conclude this was not the option they would chose. It makes sense with the whole "they are forced in A Situation and is not enjoying this".Also its interesting that Berdly is brought up, not only bc weird route but also considering this chapter's secret boss(also Berdly a sweaty nerd confirmed)
Also despite this they joke with her. That's cute
If you chose "No" however
Susie disconnects the game. Susie, the symbol of freedom, kills Mini Kris. Whether she is saving them or not, well I can't really tell what deep meaning this could have. But she is stopping them from playing the game they clearly don't enjoy.
But there's a secret third option
YOU can attack Susie. And KRIS saves her.
This was specially interesting to me, cause if this is some kind of foreshadowing for future events, the way it's put is I think is Genious! Specially considering Just moments before, we were basically forced to kill Mini Susie and Mini Ralsei while Kris looked back at us. This is something Kris did for themselves, and we can tell by their expression, the way they grit their teeth and how violently they pulled her out of danger, even she was surprised by this. They do NOT want to see their friends injured, we knew that, and they are probably scared to the possibility of her exploding like Mini Susie did, but them coming out of their way to protect her AGAINST what we clearly intended, i find that so interesting.
The rest of the scene they don't let got, and at Susie's awkwardness their only reaction seems to be just, calling her a weirdo? Or maybe that's the conclusion Susie got herself after that awkward silence. Also notice how this part makes Susie open up a bit, get more vulnerable as the awkward weird teen she is, in contrast to the pillar she is usually put as.
So in a scene where Kris, a videogame character we as players are controlling, where they have to face Mini Kris, a videogame character we are making them control but that is set free out of it's world's boundaries:
-we make Kris say they love the game. Implied a lie, negative reaction. Berdly gets mentioned
-we make Kris say they don't love the game. Implied true? Susie frees Kris off the game they are forced into//kills Mini Kris
-we attack Susie. Kris saves her by their own, against our wishes. This leaves her a bit more vulnerable
I'm horrible at analisis but I think there's something worth to pick from here
There is another option that is suitable for a Dude and an Angel.
The dude would have Capgras Syndrome (delusions of a negative double)
With this syndrome, a person is convinced that someone from his close environment (spouse, parent, child) has been replaced by an outwardly identical, but in fact completely alien person - a double (impostor).
Features:
The persistence of delirium. The belief does not disappear even if there is convincing evidence to the contrary. The paradox of perception. Often, a person is able to recognize a face, but does not experience an emotional response to it related to intimacy or trust. Related delusional ideas. Thoughts of harassment or a threat to life may be added.
(Just like in postal 1, he considers most people to be life-threatening. )
An angel, on the contrary, has ( but the opposite ) Fregoli syndrome (delusions of a positive double)
The essence of the disorder is that a person is convinced that different strangers around them are actually the same person they know, who is deliberately making up and disguising himself in order to remain unrecognized. This is often accompanied by delusions of persecution.
Features:
Violation of information integration. It occurs due to a malfunction of neural networks connecting visual perception, emotional reaction and memory.
I think this finale, like the whole season, showed that Morty is looking for an adult who would accept and support him no matter what – a theme that really comes through in the finale, which is emotionally devastating. I also think the aim of the finale was to show that Rick’s alcoholism isn’t the root of the problem, but rather a consequence of it, and that giving up alcohol or abstaining won’t solve it at all unless Rick makes certain decisions.
Following the episode’s plot, Morty goes on a run through the funerals despite Rick’s warning that it’s just emotional self-indulgence, because Morty hears how much his family cares for him and that they love him. I think Morty was, in a way, envious of those Mortys, because he believed that a family shows that kind of love whilst they’re still alive. But probably not because those Mortys received more love, but because the family were grieving – since those Ricks weren’t able to revive the Mortys, they were mourning, so they focused on the nice things and happy memories.
An Alternative Family and Professor Rick
We see Morty getting what he wants and ending up with a family who’d never had a portal gun or any of those adventures. Their life was normal and, according to Morty’s first impression, perfect, and he, craving love that wasn’t tied to transactions or humiliation, would visit them. Outside the home, he made up for what his family didn’t give him, but still, when that Jerry gave him a choice and offered to let him become his son, Morty hesitated and didn’t want to stay. This shows that he still valued Rick and his family, even if they neglected him in certain ways (because the fact that they care about each other has been shown many times, but there’s no denying that they’re also cruel to one another and neglect each other, as was evident in the camp episode, where, even though Beth and Jerry were drunk, they wanted to save their children, but they were drunk).
When the truth about this ‘normal’ family comes to light, so does Rick’s past. This shows that the Smiths tried to be perfect in every way – that ideal American family, led by the self-assured Jerry with his perfectionist tendencies, which, as we can see, weighed heavily on their Morty, as he sought an escape (the question is whether suicide wasn’t also an escape, given how Jerry was stalking our Morty).
The story of this Rick – let’s call him Professor Rick – is different from ours. I think this is a rather significant point, because this Rick never invented the portal gun and, from what he says, hasn’t seen his daughter for 17 years – that is, since Summer’s birth or since Beth fell pregnant. It was probably Jerry who kicked Rick out, because Beth grew up in a home with an alcoholic, and Jerry became her saviour. That’s why he had a firm position as head of the family and quite a lot of authority.
I think it’s also important here to show that Professor Rick, even though he didn’t drink, didn’t choose his family. He moved on with his life – and never spoke to Beth or her family again. Even though he didn’t drink, and they would probably have accepted him (albeit with some reluctance and after a long process), he didn’t choose his family. He chose science, but he failed, so he gave up completely. Although he got married and, as he claimed, led a happy life, he still never spoke to his daughter. On the contrary – he still harboured a grudge that he hadn’t managed to invent the gun and that he’d lost Diane. This is evident from the fact that he still had his workshop, photos of Diane and the plans for the pistol, but they were hidden away deep inside – like a thorn he allows to remain there. And if he’d truly come to terms with it, he would have thrown them away. Furthermore, Rick’s wife said that this would have been his second divorce, which means that after Diane, and before this wife, Rick had been married once more, and that marriage had broken down.
To be honest, I do wonder what sort of medication Professor Rick is taking – could it be, for example, medication for ADHD or depression, although I’m leaning more towards ADHD.
But getting back to the point: Professor Rick demonstrated through his behaviour that alcohol was not the root cause of the problem, but rather a consequence that allowed the problem to develop. The problem was, as Professor Rick himself puts it, his desire to create, innovate and develop in science – an almost obsessive one (perhaps at that point he’d even stopped taking his medication, which intensified his obsession, especially as Morty was fuelling it, and Professor Rick hadn’t previously managed to invent the portal gun). Professor Rick chose science over family, and he stuck to his moral principles because he had to – because, despite being intelligent, he wasn’t the cleverest being in this universe.
A comparison with Rick C-137 and the complexity of the relationship
Which, all things considered, I think places him closer to Rick Prime and the Ricks from the Citadel than to Rick C-137. Because C-137 invented the Guna portal, but was able to give it up for his family, as they gave him fulfilment – yet it was Rick Prime who took his family away from him. That’s why Rick C-137, having been forced into it and with no other options left, chose science. This is the opposite of what Professor Rick and many other Ricks did. But he has problems with alcohol, with depression, and with being emotionally immature, giving in to impulsive thoughts which he later regrets.
This shows just how complex Rick C-137’s character is, and the depth of his problems. Even though he got Diane out of his head last season, he still hasn’t come to terms with his grief. And we’ve seen time and again that, although he can be supportive and isn’t afraid to show his feelings to Morty (as in the episode ‘Rick Fu Hustle’), emotionally Rick quickly gives in. He doesn’t know how to resolve the conflicts he himself causes, stemming from his lack of emotional maturity and his alcoholism. Rick is unable to communicate openly, and his inner conflicts were highlighted in the episode where Rick decapitated himself. This demonstrated the issues he blames himself for and how, at the same time, he over-analyses his every move, yet also succumbs to impulsiveness – knowing that both are wrong. Rick is a character with serious problems.
Morty isn’t a good person either, in the sense that whilst he just wanted to go home, he fuelled Professor Rick’s obsessions and ambitions in the process. He’s also dependent on Rick, but in a different way – because Rick is simply the only person in the family who is there. No matter what happens, and even if Morty insults him, Rick is simply there, which gives Morty more than the rest of the family (which is toxic and terrifying). But Morty’s just a child. The line about Rick being ‘more his’ than that wife refers more to the fact that Rick always ends up with Morty, and Morty always ends up with Rick, because Morty has seen this happen a million times, treating it as a constant in the multiverse.
The Smith family, indifference and lessons from the finale
On the one hand, one could criticise the fact that the family didn’t look for Morty, nor did Rick, but how on earth was Rick supposed to find him? Morty had his own portal gun and set off on a funeral run without Rick, so from Rick’s perspective, when Morty didn’t return for a long time, even if he was aware that Morty might have got into trouble, he wouldn’t have been able to find him (or it would have taken a very long time). Such a search – even if he were to look for Morty’s signature, as Rick once did when searching for Prime – would certainly have taken some time. And the family? Rick could have told them that Morty was doing something for him, or made up an excuse. We’ve seen many times in previous seasons that Rick doesn’t tell anyone in the family when something happens to the children or when he loses track of them (as in the post-apocalyptic world episode, where he prepared the robots, or the Kuato episode). The family might not even have realised there was a problem (which also shows a certain kind of neglect, but also a habit of dealing with this situation and similar ones).
I think the fact that Rick was worried about Morty is shown by how quickly he disappeared from the auction and how unemotional he was during it, as he showed practically no interest in it at all, but simply snatched Morty away straight away.
Morty is deeply traumatised by this episode, partly because he might feel he destroyed that Rick and those Smiths, but they already had their own problems and were toxic (albeit in a different way to his own family). Morty was more of a catalyst who sped things up, although he might not realise this and blame himself for the whole situation. But he also saw that Rick’s problem isn’t alcohol itself, but rather that it’s a consequence.
The motorbike scene shows that Rick cares about Morty, because he listened to his advice about the magnets and took him for a simple ride. This cemented Rick’s character as a supportive figure who loves Morty (yes, in a toxic way – I’ll agree with that – and that it brought them closer together, but also made Morty dependent, leading him to consciously choose to stay in the relationship with Rick because that’s what gives him stability).
Incidentally, despite everything, I wouldn’t blame Rick for the fact that Morty has no friends his own age, because Morty didn’t have any before Rick either. The fact that Rick ensures Morty still doesn’t have any is another matter altogether, and is more a choice on Morty’s part – it’s hard to say whether it’s a conscious or unconscious choice, as Morty does spend time at school and with others.
Summary and expectations for the future
Overall, I found this season satisfying, as it focused heavily on Morty and his relationship with Rick, as well as on several aspects of his relationship with his family. For me, this season carried the story through from start to finish, although I do wonder how it will develop in future seasons, given that Season 12 has been given the green light.
I think that for Rick and Morty’s relationship to be healthier, Rick obviously needs to stop drinking, but he also needs therapy. I hope that future seasons will focus on someone in the family finally recognising the problem in Rick and Morty’s relationship, because clearly the family doesn’t seem to realise the full picture or the extent of the toxicity. If I had to pick someone, I’d go for Summer, because it was clear from the camp episode that she and Morty have a close bond. With Summer, even if they argue and are mean to each other, we’ve seen that a single phone call is enough for them to help each other (as in the ‘Empathy Tongs’ episode, where, even though Morty lacked empathy, he helped Summer at her request and they supported each other when Head-Rick and Body-Rick were fighting).
I just finished chapter 5 entirely and I felt a wave of sadness for Kris that I'm not sure I can explain entirely. I can very much relate to them in some ways, mostly on their relationship with their parents and... This.
I'll be honest when I say that I really did not understand at first what Susie meant with "walking her home", then it clicked and I brought her to school.
It's the closet, Castle Town, what she feels like home. It's nice to know she found a place she can feel safe in, and feels like she fits into.
But Kris was just there, standing. I don't know if I'm overanalizing or putting too much empathy in something irrelevant, but I think Kris felt excluded somehow.
I don't think it is because of Susie wanting Noelle to join them... But because they probably feel like Susie is the only one of the two who actually made friends in the dark world. I mean, I'm sure Ralsei cares about Kris, but maybe they didn't really break into other characters' hearts like Susie did.
And that doesn't even mean that Kris doesn't care about them all. It's just the darkners clicked more with Susie. They like her more. And Kris not as much, maybe because of their "strange" behavior (and strange aura caused by our control over them)
I felt so deeply understood in this scene because of personal experiences in which I felt forgettable (papyrus reference), irrelevant and less fortunate with people and life compared to my friends, who maybe have a more difficult situation than mine but seem to have it figured it out anyway (just like Susie) and I feel like I'm actually going to cry over this ufff it's not that deep harvey calm down ok anyway goodbye I'm probably deleting this shit later
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One thing that's not talked about enough is the sheer number of references Suzanne put in TBOSAS. As a Shakespeare and roman history nerd, I was laughing my ASS off. Like her naming conventions are spot on. Ya'll need to nerd up to understand the intentions behind these characters, I fear.
The best example I can think of is Sejanus. The second I read his name, I know that boy was doomed. Especially after he opened his mouth. Then, of course, there's Coriolanus. I didn't need the original trilogy to know bro was going to be two-faced. I didn't even need his inner monolog. Oh, Lucy Gray and Sejanus... you were doomed from the start 🫡
