there is a very big difference between dissociation (which gives the illusion that we cant feel) and actually lacking the chemicals in our brain to feel feelings.
schizoids experience a near-constant emotional dissociation. a detachment formed as a defensive mechanism.
schizoids aren't inherently better because they are able to appear highly independent and "self-sufficient."
people with schizoid personality disorder are emotionally underdeveloped, and when triggered by a crisis or something they cannot simply avoid, it is stated that schizoids are similar to borderlines during their state of emotional instability. (jeffery seinfeld)
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SZPD flag
(color meanings and full size flag under the cut)
Light Yellow: Masking
I used yellow for it because yellow stands for friendliness, and is also one of the brightest colors, and then I dulled it. Which signifies that people that mask use a personality that usually includes being more interactive and more interested in others. (please note that not everyone masks/can mask but there is no flag that has it included yet)
Darker Yellow: Generally not interested in platonic or romantic relationships.
Yellow again for friendship, but dulled because friendship seems dull.
Light Grey-Blue: Detachment
For feeling like you're just going through the motions of life, dissociation, etc.
Dark Blue: Elaborate and excessive internal fantasy world, daydreaming, and introspection.
Blue is a color associated with imagination and depth.
Black: Apathy
Please note that this flag may not resonate with everyone with szpd! It is mainly based on my experience with it.
The Schizoid Reality Wall; or, Welcome to the Void
This is a concept I first saw explained by SchizoidAngst on youtube (pretty relatable content in case yall tumblr zoids havent discovered him yet) but I've wanted to write this down in my own words, the way I conceptualize it, so I did that. Maybe theres something useful here for someone else, so I'm sharing.
Obligatory I'm not a psychologist, yada yada
As the “true” self in schizoids becomes separate from the rest of the psyche, (in some cases masked with a false persona as a form of compromise with the external world, ie. “secret” schizoids), it is turned away from the concrete physical world and towards the abstract. This more or less means it’s actually possible for schizoids to feel deeply intimate connections comfortably, if these connections are formed on higher levels of abstraction – ie. abstraction itself becomes a vehicle for connection. This also leads to what Akhtar has named ‘idiosyncratic thinking’, or odd thinking.
Example of concrete vs. abstract: I tell Bob a personal opinion about something, and Bob has a bad reaction to it, tells me I’m a disgusting person, and refuses to talk to me further. A neurotypical person would be upset about the immediate interpersonal reality of that situation – ‘oh no, Bob thinks I’m a disgusting person.’ Schizoids, if they get upset at all, instead tend to get upset because the situation reminded them of an abstract phenomenon which they have a hard time dealing with – ‘oh no, some people take opinions seriously to the point that they are willing to cut others out of their life instead of coming to some sort of mutual understanding or compromise, which gets in the way of problem-solving or beneficial discourse, something that should be everybody’s primary concern.’ Out there? Yeah, but that's kind of the point.
Neurotypical signals of affection lose meaning and feel empty because they can’t connect to the repressed/abstract self. If a consistent demand is put on the schizoid to meet what they see as superficial expressions of affection, they can get feelings of being forced to play a role which is psychologically demanding to keep up with yet yields next to no emotional rewards and satisfies none of their actual needs.
Adding to this, when schizoids then attempt to communicate their own needs or to express abstract, existential feelings, they’re more often than not met with misunderstanding, ridicule, neglect, and dismissal. The schizoid’s thinking is treated as being too abstract to have any real bearing on reality, whereas to the schizoid themself sees it as integral to reality. This happens with family, friends, coworkers, partners, as well as medical professionals/psychologists – it is a near universal phenomenon.
This culminates in the schizoid reality wall – the core difficulty in actually connecting to other people.
Essentially, the feeling for schizoids is that they often try to meet others on the terms of those others, ie. through concrete and grounded conversations, but that nobody does or even tries to do the same for them. This leads to feelings of futility, hopelessness, animosity, and a stronger need and desire to self-isolate.
You’re reminded of that barrier [all the time]. You’re reminded of the reality of your situation, which is: They can’t hear me. And I can’t hear them. And I’m trying to hear them, and I’m trying to listen – but no one is trying to listen to me. So why should I keep trying? What purpose does it serve? [...] It's not magical thinking that's occuring here, it's well-thought-out thinking that is being placed against a backdrop of a world that is telling you, 'No. No, that thinking is not the right thinking.'
I calculated our system's overall PID score that Ray filled out with help from my fiance
And our highest score was a 2.87/3 for restricted affect and Im like "Okay but is it REALLY that restricted, like I have a lower score for gradiousity and we are really bad with that"
And its cued a 15 minute roast session of how low affect and few shits we give
And I swear to god I feel like I have a normal range of emotion but XD
Like this ALIGNS to hell with our therapist thinking SzPD is probably the most prominent for us but like.... XD
What the fuck since when what were just normal what XD
I don’t seek out romantic relationships and they feel boring and stressful to me. I don’t think I’m 100% aromantic since I can still feel romantic attraction, I just lack that drive to act on it and prefer to create the relationship as a fantasy instead, rather than acting it out in real life. And that’s fulfilling for me.
So I have been having trouble figuring out a label for my romantic orientation. And I decided on lithromantic.
I wonder how common this romantic orientation is in schizoids. Anyone else relate?
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i don’t know how to really do this, but i want to find some active blogs to follow who post about:
-szpd/npd/bpd or other PDs
-MADD/anxiety/depression/adhd
if you post related to this stuff or similar like or reblog this and I’ll follow you :)
could you guys recommend some resources that are intended for schizoid people? in-debth overwiev, self-help, essays made by schizoid academics or trusted specialists? turns out spd is extremely underrepresented literally everywhere and digging trough pop-psych for neurotypicals is very overwhelming... dm me or reblog this post, all help is greatly appreciated
Sometimes I feel so empty, it's like having no soul. My mind doesn't stop but nothing else feels real. I don't feel anything for anyone. There's just a void where my soul should be.