#actually udd

1. Endogenic's using system terms. I can guarantee that if endogenics weren't using system terms or claiming to be systems, they wouldn't get nearly as much hate. Because systems can only be formed by trauma, you can't be born as them nor can you will them into existence.

The main thing that pisses me off with them is them using terms and roles that exclusively exist due to trauma. Even if endogenics were real and possible, they wouldn't have half the stuff systems do. They wouldn't dissociate, they wouldn't have amnesia, they wouldn't have protectors, they wouldn't have 99% of alter roles, they wouldn't have shit. (A post i saw once that this reminds me of is how people with dissociative disorders can give clear and in-depth reasons for why they're systems, but you'll ask an endo and they'll go "oh well the human brain's a mysterious thing we don't understand!")

Personally, I'm a trauma holder- one of the worst ones in our system, actually. Every single fucking day, multiple times I'm tormented by the severe trauma we've suffered to the point I've nearly been having panic attacks whilst in school purely because someone touched me or made a sex joke. Endogenics have NO FUCKING RIGHT to have 'protectors' and 'trauma holders' and 'persecutors' WHEN THEY NEVER HAD ANY FUCKING TRAUMA IN THE FIRST PLACE.

2. Glorification. I don't get why endos get away with faking dissociative disorders just because they're using a different term and have a big community. It's like a community of people faking PTSD and just putting it under a different name, and suddenly being protected by people. People are always being shamed for faking disorders, so why is it suddenly so different when endogenics fake dissociative disorders? Why is it suddenly endogenics being defended?

3. Endogenics with new terms. Again, like i said before, if they weren't claiming to be systems, having these new terms for themselves would be completely fine! But since they're claiming to be systems whilst using these absolutely absurd terms, it's far more harmful, and they have no right. What the fuck do you mean your 'alters' are 'syshopping into your partner system's headspace'? What do you mean you're 'trading alters'? THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. You can't 'will your system into existence' or 'create alters', THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. Maybe if you weren't claiming to have alters and if you weren't claiming to be systems, you wouldn't get so much hate.

4. Reasons for endogenics. I think there's a few reasons why endogenics think they're systems, other than the past mentioned systems thinking they're endogenics due to forgetting/invalidating their trauma.

The first reason would be that they may be faking purely for attention. They may have seen systems online and decided they want to be inside those communities, or decided being a system seems fun, so they've decided to pretend to be one for fun. They might be roleplaying being a system purely because they find it entertaining.

The second reason may be because of the amount of misinformation thrown around about disorders. People may mistake themselves for systems due to the extreme misinformation online- particularly in endogenic safe/neutral communities. They may think that their rapid moodswings and poor memory immediately means that they're a system- bonus points if they're actively exploring their identity and are split on multiple possible identities and names, so they think that they're a system. We know people who've thought they were a system due to identity confusion, extreme moodswings, identifying with different characters or having multiple names, but then later realised that they weren't a system and it was instead something like BPD, or that they didn't have anything at all.

The third reason may be that they're fictionkin and don't realise it (or they do realise it and are in denial). They may mistake their different kins as introjects, and they may think they're an OSDD-1B system, or a system with generally low amnesia. Or they may notice that they're likely fictionkin, but they refuse that fact because they think being a system is more unique and fun.

Overall endogenics really tick me off, i despise them, and i wish they'd move out of system communities and stop claiming they're systems.

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