#6w7

Wings Not Included (Here!):

Even my mom and aunt notice this about me everytime they try to lecture or tell me off. Apparently according to them, I can easily come up with a justification or a response to what they are saying that my aunt calls me an "over-reasoner" at one point. I don't do this a lot towards strangers, acquaintances and friends since... well, I find that embarrassing or something I'm not confident with, but it is a habit of mine it seems even if I don't intend on being argumentative or combative, and I just want to explain my own position and my pov.

I know 6s are known to be argumentative especially towards people they are close with, but can other head types also be this way too? Or at least the part where they can come up with multiple reasons and explanations to cope with something?

Also unrelated: ... did I just accidentally created a series with my previous ask? Cause ngl that's kinda funny to me :P.

That is specifically a 7 thing (wiggling out of being held responsible with verbal responses), so 7w6/6w7s do it the most.

It sounds like you are also a Ne-dom from this ask, so that would exacerbate the "you can't pin me down, I can justify anything with a zillion excuses" tendency.

6w7: super ego type (lives by "should" inner voice, duty, responsibility first, before playing), negativity, second-guesses their own thinking, over-thinks, hesitates, wants certainty but never finds it, leaps into action later.

Do you think type is something we are born with or we grow into?

I personally think we are born with it, although psychologists say that a child’s mental processing and sense of identity is in flux until about seven years old, when their way of thinking becomes permanent. In that case, I suspect we “try on” other functions, before settling into the one that feels the most natural / easy for us (our true process).

 I wonder because as a child in some key aspects I was drastically different from how I am now.

That is not surprising. Most kids change around puberty as their brain gets hit with a bunch of new chemicals and their behaviors, anxieties, self-awareness, and even being self-conscious skyrocket.

 So I get confused on what is my natural wiring and what came from experiences. As a kid I was very extroverted, social, emotionally intense and expressive, sensitive, a curious and adventurous explorer.

So, in other words, an extravert and a feeler.

Now I'm reserved, routinized, want safety and need structure.

So in other words, probably still an extravert and a feeler, but someone who has had trauma, life disappointments, and realized they could die. 😉

Are you a core 6 by any chance?

What's the real me and consequentially my real type? It's very confusing.

I don’t think your mental processing changed; your behavior did, but you are probably still mentally working through things the same you did as a child, only with a mature adult’s brain (greater control, awareness of the risks involved, and of the Self).

I turned to tests when my own self analysis failed, I always test as xSTJ.

Is that because you are doubling down on Te answers to feel more secure, because that is the safer way of being? If so, EFP is likely. (I almost always test as an INTJ, even though I am not. Many feelers test as thinkers, without that process being theirs, because online tests… well, suck and are slanted in certain response directions.)

In a way it makes sense since I need structure to get things done in my professional life, and I'm more a planner than an improviser.

This could indicate Te somewhere and also possibly more 6, since 6s are constantly strategizing, planning, and creating mental maps with which to navigate reality (“I am going to do this… and then that… and this will happen…”).

But compared to xSTJs I see online in both fiction and in real life I'm really lacking.

Yes, because it’s not your type / does not match your highly emotional childhood version, which is your baseline type. You are a feeler. 😉

I have little to no concept of discipline, I'm moved by mental interest and excitement and mostly I don't really care about being productive unless I'm working on a project for work.

This is FiTe / EP behaviors.

It's super easy and fun to theorize on what's really happening behind the scenes in the world and with people <- casual Ne usage. I assume you’re quite good at it and it requires almost no mental effort as well?

but I wouldn't call myself a dreamer. I'm very aware of reality <- consistent with extraverts with Te. Facts are facts, even if we’d rather ignore them sometimes; they are still there. You can’t walk through walls. Things break if you drop them. Some things aren’t possible.

only I know there's a lot more to it than what meets the eye, and reality is stranger than fiction. Anything is possible, but not equally probable. <- this seems more like general intelligence than cognitive-related

I can make objective decisions based on facts, but I can never ignore my feelings, they are the key to my happiness, and that's my priority in life.

Again, yes, because you are a feeler who prioritizes your emotional state over the logic of the situation. Since your examples aren’t specifically Fe or Fi, this leaves you with two Ne-using choices: ENFP or ESFJ. ENFPs are freer spirits and not tethered intellectually to what they are used to; ESFJs can be disorganized, but their entire life mostly revolves around other people and how to remain connected to and aware of them. I suspect ENFP for you.

I absolutely LOVE typology since it's not only interesting but helps me understand others, but I'm sick and tired of not being certain of my type. It's like I'm a walking contradiction; I don't make sense.

Yes you do. Put gently, you just don’t know how to self-apply typology or be honest about yourself, which is not a character flaw; 99.9% of people cannot self-type accurately, because only after you know your type and start observing it in motion are you fully self-aware of what process you are doing. Extraverts are also less self-aware than many introverts, because their focus is on what is outside themselves rather than their own mental process.

It's like at certain point in my life I just flipped and became the opposite of how I was, albeit a distorted version of it.

No, you grew into your lower functions and brought them into your mental process, which is a normal progression of your type / adulthood. As a child, you were probably bouncing off the walls with Ne, then you developed Fi and became more internal, reserved, and self-aware; then Te came online, and showed you the facts of situations and grounded you. Someone probably told you at some point that not everything revolves around you constantly, so you stopped over-sharing and being loud. And so on. But mentally, you are just a more mature version of that highly extraverted, emotional kid.

I'm too emotionally driven and focused on fun to be an SJ, but too realistic to be an NP. Yet I know I'm Ne/Si.

I feel like you have an overly “NPs must be foolish” perspective, which doesn’t fit an extravert with Te. Yes, in the movies we are restless dreamers, but Te is… the facts are these. ENFPs can choose to ignore the facts or reframe them, but they can’t escape them. BTW, STJs can love their fun (after work) and NPs can be realistic about a situation, so if those are your only hangups…

Whenever I come to a conclusion about my type it only lasts for a couple days, nothing really fits perfectly and I always end up reconsidering it as I come across new information on type or perceive something new about me.

This is Ne-dom in action. It is literally one new piece of information shifts my entire perspective. That is its super power, it’s what makes it so cool, but it is also why ENPs have the worst trouble with self-typing; when your brain is used to constant expansion and “what if…?” possibilities, landing on one thing with certainty is hard. This is proof of ENP-ness. The “nothing ever fits entirely” could be 6, focusing on what doesn’t match you instead of what does (throwing out a mountain of evidence for a grain of sand).

I tried to self type by comparing myself to others, but I've never identified with anyone.

Fi, lol.

 I'm confident in my values so I know *who* I am

More Fi.

, but typology asks about *how* I am and that's my blindspot. I can't see my own pattern.

Most people can’t. You’re not alone in this.

Hi!

I’ve been trying to figure out both my Enneagram and MBTI types and would love your thoughts.

The Enneagram type I keep coming back to is 6w7. The parts that resonate most are loyalty, trust, and consistency. In relationships, I value clear communication and feeling like we’re on the same page. I tend to think through major decisions carefully, gather information, and feel better when I have a plan. Maybe to a fault as I’ve been told tend to over analyze sometimes. At work, I’ve always gravitated toward troubleshooting, problem-solving, and being someone people can rely on.

At the same time, I’m generally optimistic, enjoy new experiences, and am usually working toward some goal or self-improvement project, which makes me wonder about 7w6 or even Type 3.

For MBTI, 16Personalities typed me as ENFJ-T. Some parts fit—I care a lot about people, relationships, and helping others—but I’m also very solution-oriented. When someone comes to me with a problem, my first instinct is usually to figure out what we can do about it rather than focus on feelings first.

The thing I’m struggling with is separating my core personality from stress, especially after a breakup and a lot of life changes over the past year.

Based on that, what type(s) would you explore first and why?

Thanks!

Hey. :) Glad you like the SGA retypings/updated typings. It's a fun show to rewatch!

Nothing you said is inconsistent with 6w7-core ENFJ, so I think you are on the right track. Every 6-core I know is a problem-solver instead of an "aww, baby... you'll be okay" type of person, and being an extravert / Je lead (extraverted judging lead) would lead someone to go "well, let's fix this for you / find a solution" because Te/Fe likes to "organize" things.

You could be a 3 fixer (your tritype has 3 in it), but you don't sound like a 3 core; 3s do not typically over-think or stress too much about being "careful." They just see life as a succession of goals and doorways through which they walk to get their needs met and achieve things.

To separate your core personality from stress, look at your stress pattern; each type has a stress line. For 6, that is 3 -- 6s under stress become more end-results oriented; they care more about how others see them, they want to be seen as competent. For a 3 under stress, they move to 9 and become less caring about their appearance or productivity; they move toward sloth and "nothing matters."

Ironically, I don't really feel this way. There's just not enough things in the world I want to do or see, and they rarely pile up all at once. If anything, I'd like to write many books and don't feel as if I have enough time to tell all the stories in my head (since I'm a perfectionist, and it takes me 6-8 months to get a book "right"), but ... the outside world is largely uninspiring to me. Most of the time, I feel as if there is not enough for me to care about or want to do or see, and I languish in perpetual intellectual boredom because the real world is irrelevant. 9 times out of 10, my imagination is vastly superior to an experience. ;)

So, for you, yeah, it's probably low Se talking + the 7 wing.