1) Do you think type is something we are born with or we grow into? I wonder because as a child in some key aspects I was drastically different from how I am now. So I get confused on what is my natural wiring and what came from experiences. As a kid I was very extroverted, social, emotionaly intense and expressive, sensitive, a curious and adventurous explorer. Now I'm reserved, routinized, want safety and need structure. What's the real me and consequentally my real type? It's very confusing.
Do you think type is something we are born with or we grow into?
I personally think we are born with it, although psychologists say that a child’s mental processing and sense of identity is in flux until about seven years old, when their way of thinking becomes permanent. In that case, I suspect we “try on” other functions, before settling into the one that feels the most natural / easy for us (our true process).
I wonder because as a child in some key aspects I was drastically different from how I am now.
That is not surprising. Most kids change around puberty as their brain gets hit with a bunch of new chemicals and their behaviors, anxieties, self-awareness, and even being self-conscious skyrocket.
So I get confused on what is my natural wiring and what came from experiences. As a kid I was very extroverted, social, emotionally intense and expressive, sensitive, a curious and adventurous explorer.
So, in other words, an extravert and a feeler.
Now I'm reserved, routinized, want safety and need structure.
So in other words, probably still an extravert and a feeler, but someone who has had trauma, life disappointments, and realized they could die. 😉
Are you a core 6 by any chance?
What's the real me and consequentially my real type? It's very confusing.
I don’t think your mental processing changed; your behavior did, but you are probably still mentally working through things the same you did as a child, only with a mature adult’s brain (greater control, awareness of the risks involved, and of the Self).
I turned to tests when my own self analysis failed, I always test as xSTJ.
Is that because you are doubling down on Te answers to feel more secure, because that is the safer way of being? If so, EFP is likely. (I almost always test as an INTJ, even though I am not. Many feelers test as thinkers, without that process being theirs, because online tests… well, suck and are slanted in certain response directions.)
In a way it makes sense since I need structure to get things done in my professional life, and I'm more a planner than an improviser.
This could indicate Te somewhere and also possibly more 6, since 6s are constantly strategizing, planning, and creating mental maps with which to navigate reality (“I am going to do this… and then that… and this will happen…”).
But compared to xSTJs I see online in both fiction and in real life I'm really lacking.
Yes, because it’s not your type / does not match your highly emotional childhood version, which is your baseline type. You are a feeler. 😉
I have little to no concept of discipline, I'm moved by mental interest and excitement and mostly I don't really care about being productive unless I'm working on a project for work.
This is FiTe / EP behaviors.
It's super easy and fun to theorize on what's really happening behind the scenes in the world and with people <- casual Ne usage. I assume you’re quite good at it and it requires almost no mental effort as well?
but I wouldn't call myself a dreamer. I'm very aware of reality <- consistent with extraverts with Te. Facts are facts, even if we’d rather ignore them sometimes; they are still there. You can’t walk through walls. Things break if you drop them. Some things aren’t possible.
only I know there's a lot more to it than what meets the eye, and reality is stranger than fiction. Anything is possible, but not equally probable. <- this seems more like general intelligence than cognitive-related
I can make objective decisions based on facts, but I can never ignore my feelings, they are the key to my happiness, and that's my priority in life.
Again, yes, because you are a feeler who prioritizes your emotional state over the logic of the situation. Since your examples aren’t specifically Fe or Fi, this leaves you with two Ne-using choices: ENFP or ESFJ. ENFPs are freer spirits and not tethered intellectually to what they are used to; ESFJs can be disorganized, but their entire life mostly revolves around other people and how to remain connected to and aware of them. I suspect ENFP for you.
I absolutely LOVE typology since it's not only interesting but helps me understand others, but I'm sick and tired of not being certain of my type. It's like I'm a walking contradiction; I don't make sense.
Yes you do. Put gently, you just don’t know how to self-apply typology or be honest about yourself, which is not a character flaw; 99.9% of people cannot self-type accurately, because only after you know your type and start observing it in motion are you fully self-aware of what process you are doing. Extraverts are also less self-aware than many introverts, because their focus is on what is outside themselves rather than their own mental process.
It's like at certain point in my life I just flipped and became the opposite of how I was, albeit a distorted version of it.
No, you grew into your lower functions and brought them into your mental process, which is a normal progression of your type / adulthood. As a child, you were probably bouncing off the walls with Ne, then you developed Fi and became more internal, reserved, and self-aware; then Te came online, and showed you the facts of situations and grounded you. Someone probably told you at some point that not everything revolves around you constantly, so you stopped over-sharing and being loud. And so on. But mentally, you are just a more mature version of that highly extraverted, emotional kid.
I'm too emotionally driven and focused on fun to be an SJ, but too realistic to be an NP. Yet I know I'm Ne/Si.
I feel like you have an overly “NPs must be foolish” perspective, which doesn’t fit an extravert with Te. Yes, in the movies we are restless dreamers, but Te is… the facts are these. ENFPs can choose to ignore the facts or reframe them, but they can’t escape them. BTW, STJs can love their fun (after work) and NPs can be realistic about a situation, so if those are your only hangups…
Whenever I come to a conclusion about my type it only lasts for a couple days, nothing really fits perfectly and I always end up reconsidering it as I come across new information on type or perceive something new about me.
This is Ne-dom in action. It is literally one new piece of information shifts my entire perspective. That is its super power, it’s what makes it so cool, but it is also why ENPs have the worst trouble with self-typing; when your brain is used to constant expansion and “what if…?” possibilities, landing on one thing with certainty is hard. This is proof of ENP-ness. The “nothing ever fits entirely” could be 6, focusing on what doesn’t match you instead of what does (throwing out a mountain of evidence for a grain of sand).
I tried to self type by comparing myself to others, but I've never identified with anyone.
I'm confident in my values so I know *who* I am
, but typology asks about *how* I am and that's my blindspot. I can't see my own pattern.
Most people can’t. You’re not alone in this.
My guess? ENFP 6w7. Explains everything, IMO.