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More evidence of 1DHQ leaking the boysâ location to fans
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For those that werenât in fandom back then, this was a huge part of their marketing. It happened all throughout the band and in all countries. Louis also continued to use this tactic after the band, a couple instances that come to mind are when he was with Danielle and also when he was partying up a storm in LA in 2015 iykyk.
I think what a lot of people, especially those who question themselves, need to realize is babygate was a very desperate effort to divide and conquer the fandom. PR comes with a lot of strategy and imo two objectives: red pill the general public and blue pill the fans. The general public easily buys into whatever is being sold to them so it doesnât take much effort and same goes for a casual fan like a solo. A dedicated fan like a Larrie is usually what PR targets because those fans will question every little thing and provide receipts. People call Larries cockroaches as a derogatory term but itâs also true. I think the Larry fandom is probably the strongest fandom there is in regards to longevity and organization (the fact new fans can discover most of our history very accessibly proves that) and the Larry fandom is probably the only ârpfâ that has never truly been able to be dispelled or really discredited if you pay attention (which most people donât.) Every attempt by Syco post X Factor up until 2014 was to get us to stop shipping it and take our pills, but we wouldnât comply and in fact got stronger. So what does Syco have left to do when a fandom exposes your failure at every turn and continues to grow? Up the scale to a mind boggling degree. And whatâs the best way to do that? A baby. People have a rightful discomfort when it comes to discussing children and babygate was the 1 thing that really weakened the Larry fandom and strengthened the antis. It was an embarrassing tatic but for the purpose of dividing and conquering the Larries and tarnishing our image for all time- it worked.
Listening to 1D on shuffle while doing chores and I suddenly remembered Liam reading a "Zayn, come back" sign right after Zayn was thrown out of the band by the management (or maybe he really did leave, I'm still not sure; I just know that goodbye post was written by the management and not Zayn). The boys truly went through a nightmare. They lived through so many horrible situations and all of that under millions of cameras recording them and people watching from all over the world. They went through so much trauma ever since the damn x factor (and Cowell was the one that caused and directed that trauma).
The music industry is such a horrible industry, and Modest! Management only made it worseâand SO much worse at that. They never, ever did anything to de-escalate situations. Anything to cover their asses.
I hate it. The boys deserved better.
marte, Idk if I'm the only one but I felt like if L and H came out in the 1D days their CO would have been such a groundbreaking thing. It could have changed stuff for the whole industry......fetus larry would be idolised for that.....now I kinda feel the moment has passed for them....if they came out now or later it wouldn't be so big and groundbreaking after all....not saying that they should CO for the public and not for themselves hut in general I think it would have had a bigger impact back then than now....or later.....(obviously they may not have the ability to do so but yeh).
Alsoz do you think they'll ever share with us what happened back in the 1d days? Closet and all?
Hi, anon!
I've talked about this before. Check out my "power couple" tag. I think there is still a window for them to become a power couple and for it to have a massive impact. There still arenât any out young gay male celebrity couples. They could be the new posh and becks or brangelina. But that window is closing on them. The longer they wait the less impact it's going to have on young people and the less chance they'll have to become a power couple. It's most likely not up to them though. They would if they could.
I think they are under several NDAs and we'll never know the full story. I do think they'll share some things though, but they're most likely not in a position to reveal some or the horrors that they've been subjected to by modest, syco and sony.

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Hey, since youâve been in this fandom for wayyy longer than I, I wanted to ask you something. To me, the only undeniable anti proof is the one where Louisâ grandpa and sisters called out larries and posted a pic of him and El. To me, this could mean multiple things:
1. Louis has the worst luck in the world and Larry is not real. But likeâŚthereâs SO SO many elounor plot holes and what abt matching tattoos and serenading and just- fuck ton of proof alright. Just things I donât think any conspiracy theory would be able to take this far w/o actual evidence. Thatâs not me saying Iâm a no stunts- cus honestly I just donât buy some no stunts arguments but, I digress.
2. Larries on twt are disrespectful af and the family was clapping back bc maybe back then THOSE larries kinda made it worse for everyone? Like the way they talked to Stan was borderline immature, and Iâm pretty sure if my family/friend were closeted and forced to extensively stunt Iâd do anything to keep the secret so less ppl believe. Also if u think abt it- if ppl didnât make EVERYTHING abt Larry/ make fake proof back then- the fam/friends would have no reason to be angry bc larry prob wouldnât have to bury this secret so hard- yk? Bc whenever the families have clapped back its been to tweets talking about the proofs that over reach. Or just @ing larries bc like I said, you gotta bury the secret somehow so your homie wonât have to.
3. Management/ label/ PR team asking them to do it/ taking one for the team. I think management having control of stans or lotties or anyoneâs account is too far fetched tbh. I also donât think itâs the label because I mean- it was denied after the 1D hiatus by Lous ppl, lou who didnât have an album out until 2020. The label also has better things to do- Hollywood leaders are too busy hiding sex offenders crimes to care abt some âconspiracyâ. I do think maybe they do it so Louis(bc Gemma only denied it in the 1D days when Harry was actively bearding just to hide Larry rather than in PR relationships for PR and profit) doesnât have to do anything other than hang out w Eleanor here and there. Thatâs my understanding of it anyways. I think Iâve done my research enough to conclude this.
Do you think any of my reasons could be right? I wanna know your train of thought. Or do larries have another explanation for why the families deny it on socials? Lmk <3
Thankss
Hey dear, how are you?
I think there are a lot of misconceptions going on here. A lot to unpack. And it's pretty ironic how the answer to your question is already on the question itself. This is obviously just my opinion, I'm not personally attacking you or anything, and feel free to disagree and do your own thing.
So. First of all, there's no such thing as blaming larries for the denials, or for making "everything about larry". Larry is making everything about larry, we're just reacting accordingly for the past decade. Yes there's a part of this fandom that is extremely annoying and doesn't seem to understand the concept of closeting, doesn't seem to understand how fucked up it is to go bother their families and friends with this. It's like people are expecting them to out Harry and Louis when they're asked about it. Which, again, is a ridiculous concept considering they're so severely closeted. So, no, larries don't have the power to make stuff about larry or to ruin solid friendships or make denials happen. The idea of larries being the ones to be blamed is absolutely ridiculous... and it's also the key point of the denials, you just hit the nail in the head by mentioning this!
There's this popular strategy used for changing people's minds or trying to shut down a particular idea, that consists in basically putting people against each other. It happens in politics, marketing and a number of other scenarios. And thatâs what 1DHQ did since it was decided that larry rumours needed to be shut down. So instead of only using denials and beards, it was being pushed down everyoneâs throats that believing larry was wrong, absurd, disrespectful. They started to promote larries as ânot real fansâ. So whenever a larrie would stand up and be vocal about it, we would be instantly silenced by other people in the fandom and called *delulu*. âLarry is a load of bullshitâ âconspiracy theoriesâ âdisrespectfulâ. They were basically dividing the fandom by doing these kinds of denials, they created doubts in peopleâs minds and they wouldnât need to rely on denials coming from H&L every single time, that way they had part of the fanbase already doing the dirty job for them by oppressing any kind of ideas about larry. Now, for something to be effective, everyone needs to play the game. If friends and family are going to out them, thereâs no reason for the closeting to be happening in the first place. And we always talk about how people close to them have a massive part in pushing narratives and stunts. It sounds organic, it sounds more believable. So, naturally, they would need to play the âlarries are crazyâ game too. And it is what it is, thatâs how things need to go. Thatâs why these kinds of denials happen and it will keep happening as long as theyâre closeted.
Lastly, I would just like to add something else. You mentioned âundeniable anti proofâ and elounor plot holes⌠and I think youâre trying to make sense of things from the original narrative point of view when I personally think it should be the other way around. Elounor doesnât need to have plot holes, and antis donât need âproofsâ. This is not what makes larry real, what makes larry real is the consistency. Week after week, month after month. Patterns were created and then reinforced over and over. Consistency and context are much stronger than words and denials and stunts, and thatâs what they keep showing us. Please check out this post for more about it and also my denials tag for more about the denials
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