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Hmm well...it was unexpected.

I think DA is on the downfall, so maybe that’s why? I don’t know. Still her acting is always good despite the show becoming a soap opera at this point. So I don’t know.

I don’t watch BB, like I said before, so I don’t know Anna Gunn as an actress. For what I’ve read, she has been snubbed quite a few times before, so it was a well deserved win for a good performance and great season that apparently keeps getting better. Congrats to her!!

And Maggie doesn’t care anyway. Honestly she doesn’t even bother to show up, and that says a lot. Not diminishing the winners' talent tonight, because I think some are really well deserved (it’s great when talent matches recognition!!), but I have said before that after this year (though it has been the same for a couple of years now) I just think getting an Emmy nomination is pretty much a popularity contest.

Hi!

For some reason I saved this ask, instead of posting it with the others way back when (though I did a general answer for all)… anyway

I like that you think a nomination makes an actor good… Awards and nominations make an actor popular, they don’t make an actor talented.An Oscar/Golden Globe/Emmy or a nom doesn’t make an actor good. I think a nomination or a win only shows certain things about that performance, but it doesn’t make the performance. The performance is the performance, anything that’s extra is not an indication of the worth of it. (In reverse) If a good performance doesn’t get a nom, does it mean it was bad? No, it doesn’t. It just means that it was overlooked. I guess what I’m trying to say is that, the nominations for the show, clearly don’t reflect standout performances. The performances were nothing out of the ordinary, and sometimes bad. And getting recognition for the academy, clearly doesn’t make them good or even worth the praise. I’ve raged about actors like Brad Pitt getting Oscar noms, and actors like Sandra Bullock, -a somewhat above average actress-, getting Oscars, to know that, more often than not, there’s a whole machine behind a nomination and a win. You need buzz, you need network/studio support, and you need publicity as hell. Sometimes it’s about the things that surround the actor, than the actual performance. Some actors didn’t have that, which I knew it would be the reason why Fairley would get overlooked, but I didn’t want to recognize. Some others, for example NCW, started campaigning, especially with his nom for the Critic’s Choice, but it wasn’t enough to stand front and center, and push Dinklage back, who has little to nothing to do to get the nom, as he’s the face of the show for three seasons now. Clarke became another face of the show this season, and she has been campaigning, from the Critic’s Choice, to her dropping by US talk shows, to promote her things, and the show. It ain’t that hard to see show favourites became award favourites, and they have the network’s support. HBO features their characters as central, and nothing better for them, than to add a familiar and popular face to the show. As simple as that. What I’m saying is that, maybe nominations and wins of awards, are centered in actor or character popularity with enough backup (for more information see Harvey Weinstein and Oscar nominations), rather than talent or good performances. Bad actors get noms, and even wins. As crazy as that sounds, it happens a lot. I can’t blame some actors for playing the PR game, because sometimes that actually grants them more popularity and recognition than their actual talent or performances. (Clarke has been doing that. I think some of the gossip -which I’m not concerned with, but it’s a good indication here- some people poured in the ask box is proof enough. Nothing has to be true, as long as it gets people talking about you).

Just a few ideas here:

Dinklage has been giving a subpar performance since season 2. And over him, all of these actors are better, by miles:

Charles Dance

Jack Gleeson

Liam Cunnigham

Conleth Hill

(I’m sure I’m missing many here, just a few examples I guess)

NCW (even though he’s not my favourite, he’s still miles away better than Dinklage)

And Clarke gave a weak and monotonous performance, with some slight improvements here and there. I’ve said before, that she was able to improve her line delivering, when she had to speak valyrian. But that doesn’t make her a good actress. I think a better indication for improvement would be her not sucking in english, you know, that it is her actual language. Safe to say that even if someone actually likes her acting on the show, she still is not good to get that kind of recognition. I mean, it’s actually embarrassing to hear the voters thought a nomination was good in this case. Even if people like her acting, she’s not even close to many of the other actresses’ skills on the show. She’s not even better than them.  Anyway, list of actresses who are better than Clarke (in no particular order):

Sophie Turner (not my favourite, but she has improved a lot. And even with the issues she can act circles around Clarke)

Lena Headey (if you’ve read this blog, you know I don’t like her acting either. But what Headey did in S02E09 is far better than anything that Clarke has been able to provide for the show)

Natalia Tena; Even Sibel, who got sideeyeing for nominating herself (or so that says WIC.net) has been more consistent with her acting.

Rose Leslie

Maisie Williams

M. Fairley

Gwen Christie

Natalie Dormer (miles away. and closer to her age range)

Idk I could name many actresses here. I think the point is, many of them have had more consistent performances and/or have improved more.

The industry is quite unfair. We all know that. And the Emmys are clearly no exception. But maybe I was just hoping it wasn’t as blatant as this shows it is. Even good actors nowadays need to play the PR game in order to get recognition. How unfair it is that it’s not about your talent, but about your scandals, gossip, looks and connections? Well, it’s that way for many. And one can only hope the actors and actresses who actually deserve the praise, the recognition and the applause, have some attention behind them not to get overlooked, or in the best cases, that talent speaks louder than looks, popularity and publicity stunts.

Thanks!

Well, character popularity really marked a difference in the nominations. It’s basically a popularity contest, nothing more. Which is quite a shame, so I wouldn’t be surprised if people’s views on the characters clouded the acting judgement.

Hi anon.

I definitely think many people feel like the show doesn't deserve much recognition from an acting point of view, and to some extent and in some cases I agree. And like I said before, I'm not totally convinced with NCW's acting. He was quite weak for two seasons, and in the third one he was just ok. He did improve and had one great episode with a good performance, but for the rest he didn't hit the high mark to deserve the nomination. However, if you have read my comments regarding the noms, it's probably clear that I'm baffled at the nomination of Dinklage over Coster-Waldau. And that's because neither of them had outstanding performances to merit the nom, but in comparison, NCW stood out more than Dinkalge, and tried something different, polishing some of the issues his performance had in previous seasons. Dinklage only seemed to get worse. I don't get the hype for his acting either, surely it doesn't seem to come from his performance on the show. "Most improved" is not an eligible category, so I don't see the point of a nom for his overall performance. That being said, I have to strongly disagree with you on the "worst actor in the show". If I had to catalog his performance I would say it is average-to-(sometimes)good. And there are many actors in the show that are far worse than that, and are even below the mediocre line. To name a few: Simon (Lancel), Harington, Skrein (Daario).

Hi anon.

I think she’s humble about it, don’t think she’s affected by it. But on the other hand, she has no idea about her acting issues. I don’t think that’s the only negative reviews she’s gotten, maybe she doesn’t know or doesn’t care to find out about them, but season 3 directors, especially Alex Graves, are fully aware of the criticism and of her limited skills. He made the scene of “a dragon is no slave", and cut her, showing the minimum possible of her, working around her issues, and disguised them with the cgi and large scale production. So, maybe she’s oblivious about it, but many know it, and have heard the complaints and criticism. So, yeah, maybe she doesn’t know, or doesn’t care to know.

I disagree with you on her potential. By now she’s been playing the character for 3 whole season, showing little to no improvement, and has done poorly in that play. I don’t know, there’s some point in which I can see the limitations in some actors’ skills, and I think she can be an average actress, but that’s the best she can get at this point.

P.S: when the reviewer says: “she’s a miscast", or “the cat was the best actor in the play" lead by her, you know that’s a negative review.

Hi.

I have my reservations towards NCW’s acting. But I do agree with you. he definitely deserved it over P. Dinklage. Originally I didn’t think NCW deserved the recognition. Because yeah, he improved, but it was not enough to get a nomination, but after the nominations came out, I can only say that there’s no way Dinklage should be the male actor recognized for the show among the 3 submitted. Like I said before neither of the 3 (Dinklage, Harington and NCW) deserved it for me, but among the 3, is NCW the one that should have been nominated, if they felt they had to nominate anyone.

Now allow me to add something here. 

Actors that did better than Dinklage this season, and deserved the recognition over him (not just deserved to be nominated, but if Dinklage deserves to be nominated, then they deserved it even more, and sometimes 10 times more):

Charles Dance (Tywin)

Jack Gleeson (Joffrey)

Conleth Hill (Varys)

Liam Cunnigham (Davos)

using the characters’ name from now on

Edmure Tully

Walder Frey

Sam Tarly

Tormund Giantsbane

BlackFish

Pycelle

Thoros

Theon Greyjoy

Even NCW as Jaime (whose acting I’m not a fan of, but showed incredible improvement this season, with a great performance in episode 5)

Orell

The Hound

List of actresses who were better than Clarke this season:

M. Fairley (Cat)

Gwen Christie (Brienne)

Maisie Williams (Arya)

Natalie Dormer (Margaery)

Kerry Ingram (Shireen Baratheon)

Rose Leslie (Ygritte)

Sophie Turner (Sansa) (whose acting is a hit or miss sometimes, yet she can be a better and stronger actress than Clarke, any day)

Lena Headey (whose acting I don’t like most of the time)

Natalia Tena (Osha)

with characters’ names now, cause I don’t remember the actors’

Selyse Baratheon

from here you can get my point pretty clearly

Ros

Shae

warlock little girl

Lysa Arryn

Melisandre

Missandei

also

Old Nan (and yes I'm aware that she was just named twice this season, but still, that's enough)

little girl who yells Mhysa first

(ok the last 3, are clearly a joke for those who will get mad)

And I can only think she’s better than Oona Chaplin, and Hannah Murray.

So anyway, thanks!